Greece - Caroline Crouch, 20, tortured and murdered, Athens, 11 May 2021 #4 *ARREST*

[Dotta]

I think C's mother paid it via bank cheque.

And I remember it was B who put that money to the bank. But how do we know? We are in different countries and even different continents

 

[Dotta]

Yes, of course, they did. C would own half of B's assets which would go to the parents. However, because B is a controlling man, I doubt whether C had much access to their money.

It is just beyond my comprehension. It is 21st century and Europe. Women and men are equal, wives have rights and are protected by law.

 

[tayaway]

Of all Euro countries, Greece is the worst for gender equality.

 

[Dotta]

Of all Euro countries, Greece is the worst for gender equality.

Shame shame shame!!! But women must know their rights! Education is vital Ladies! Go to a lawyer and discuss things, search in Internet. Dont be a victim because of lack of knowledge.

 

[Estelle]

Of all Euro countries, Greece is the worst for gender equality.

Turkey is even worse. I first went there in about 1993 as we went sailing off the coast. I wondered where the women were - none to be seen.

 

[Dotta]

Γλυκά Νερά: «Μήπως υπάρχει θέση πιλότου στη φυλακή;» - Η ερώτηση του Μπάμπη Αναγνωστόπουλου Updates on B in prison - "Do you need a pilot here?" he asks prison officials.

 

[tayaway]

Γλυκά Νερά: «Μήπως υπάρχει θέση πιλότου στη φυλακή;» - Η ερώτηση του Μπάμπη Αναγνωστόπουλου Updates on B in prison - "Do you need a pilot here?" he asks prison officials.

Red Forman (That 70s Show): You can pilot my foot up your ...

Seriously, why are they pampering this admitted killer and why is the press fawning over every word he says?

 

[Dotta]

Today - 12.07 - would be Caroline's 20th birthday! Happy Heavenly Birthday Caroline!

 

[Estelle]

The pilot's cell phone "speaks" - What the authorities are looking for in his travels
Police are convinced that the real motive for the murder is "hidden" in the previous six months - Attiki Odos cameras are being examined
Γλυκά Νερά: «Μιλά» το κινητό του πιλότου - Τι αναζητούν οι Αρχές στα ταξίδια του και στις κάμερες της Αττικής Οδού

 

[Dotta]

Violent Crimes on the Rise in Greece

 

[Estelle]

Violent Crimes on the Rise in Greece

Since Babis Anagnostopoulos committed the murder of Caroline Crouch it seems that violent crimes are running rampant. It calls attention to violent crimes in the home, with intimate partners, perhaps as a result of six months of lockdowns.

I guess C couldn't go out of the house much during lockdowns - let alone visit her parents.

 

[tayaway]

One thing that stands out to me, especially with the coming return of the case prosecutor on the 16th, is a detail making the rounds of Greek MSM:

reportaz July 13: The 20-year-old, lately, reportedly felt disgust for her husband. Η 20χρονη, το τελευταίο διάστημα, φέρεται να ένιωθε απέχθεια για τον σύζυγό της.

Why did she feel that way? What did he do or what about him caused that reaction in C?

 

[Dotta]

One thing that stands out to me, especially with the coming return of the case prosecutor on the 16th, is a detail making the rounds of Greek MSM:

reportaz July 13: The 20-year-old, lately, reportedly felt disgust for her husband. Η 20χρονη, το τελευταίο διάστημα, φέρεται να ένιωθε απέχθεια για τον σύζυγό της.

Why did she feel that way? What did he do or what about him caused that reaction in C?

My God - this beautiful girl had a whole life in front of her. She could have become a model with her beauty, or a famous kickboxer with her talent, or whatever she chose. But she met this madman! Why, oh why to marry at such young age??? They could just live together for a while and got to know each other better. And then part their ways if it didnt suit them.

 

[Dotta]

Έγκλημα στα Γλυκά Νερά: Αρχίζει η έρευνα για το κίνητρο της δολοφονίας της Καρολάιν - sportime.gr No evidence of a lover (which I didnt believe also )

 

[tayaway]

Έγκλημα στα Γλυκά Νερά: Αρχίζει η έρευνα για το κίνητρο της δολοφονίας της Καρολάιν - sportime.gr No evidence of a lover (which I didnt believe also )

More like an 'acquaintance' who's involved in the murder or planning of it, somehow? And what does the quote mean, that we don't know yet whether her number is listed as a contact on his phone?

At the same time, the possible role of a 40-year-old woman from the wider professional environment of the 33-year-old pilot, with whom she had a long acquaintance , is considered crucial ... An additional question is whether her phone number is registered in the confiscated device of the 32-year-old. Something that does not seem to be happening at least for the time being.

Την ίδια στιγμή, κομβικός θεωρείται ο τυχόν ρόλος μίας 40χρονης γυναίκας από το ευρύτερο επαγγελματικό περιβάλλον του 33χρονου πιλότου, με την οποία διατηρούσε πολυετή γνωριμία... Επιπλέον ζητούμενο είναι αν είναι καταχωρισμένος ο αριθμός του τηλεφώνου της στην κατασχεθείσα συσκευή του 32χρονου. Κάτι που δεν φαίνεται να προκύπτει τουλάχιστον προς το παρόν.

 

[Estelle]

Έγκλημα στα Γλυκά Νερά: Αρχίζει η έρευνα για το κίνητρο της δολοφονίας της Καρολάιν - sportime.gr No evidence of a lover (which I didnt believe also )

From this article above:

At the same time, the possible role of a 40-year-old woman from the wider professional environment of the 33-year-old pilot, with whom she had a long acquaintance , is considered crucial . In fact, there is information that there were conflicts with her about personal issues. "Her presence has nothing to do with the murder of the 20-year-old," said the 40-year-old's legal representative. Finally, according to information, there does not seem to be a recorded telephone communication between the woman in question and the pilot, during the period when the secrecy of his telephone was lifted. An additional question is whether her phone number is registered in the confiscated device of the 32-year-old. Something that does not seem to be happening at least for the time being.

My comment: I also never thought the 40 year old ever had anything to do with the murder. But, I must say, that I am still curious about who she is. I suspected that she might work in Admin at the helicopter company and she may have found B a difficult man to deal with at work. I am also wondering why and how B was connected to Stavros - if at all.

 

[Dotta]

From this article above:

At the same time, the possible role of a 40-year-old woman from the wider professional environment of the 33-year-old pilot, with whom she had a long acquaintance , is considered crucial . In fact, there is information that there were conflicts with her about personal issues. "Her presence has nothing to do with the murder of the 20-year-old," said the 40-year-old's legal representative. Finally, according to information, there does not seem to be a recorded telephone communication between the woman in question and the pilot, during the period when the secrecy of his telephone was lifted. An additional question is whether her phone number is registered in the confiscated device of the 32-year-old. Something that does not seem to be happening at least for the time being.

My comment: I also never thought the 40 year old ever had anything to do with the murder. But, I must say, that I am still curious about who she is. I suspected that she might work in Admin at the helicopter company and she may have found B a difficult man to deal with at work. I am also wondering why and how B was connected to Stavros - if at all.

I think S was a client of B - he flew him places as a company's pilot. And S might have invited him with C to his restaurant for a meal as a gratitude gesture. They seem to be acquaintances through working relations.

 

[Estelle]

I think S was a client of B - he flew him places as a company's pilot. And S might have invited him with C to his restaurant for a meal as a gratitude gesture. They seem to be acquaintances through working relations.

Yes I read that in one article and also that B used Stavros' restaurant for his company's business events. But, in another article, that B denied knowing Stavros and that Stavros was not one of B's mobile contacts which made me suspicious.

 

[Dotta]

Yes I read that in one article and also that B used Stavros' restaurant for his company's business events. But, in another article, that B denied knowing Stavros and that Stavros was not one of B's mobile contacts which made me suspicious.

We are like children in foggy surroundings as far as this case is concerned

 

[Dotta]

Greek cops HONOURED despite taking month to catch Caroline Crouch's killer