Hailey Dunn Update at 7 months, 7/27/11

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I truly doubt that searchers would make up stories either. Did LE follow up or didn't they?

Another key statement was about sex offenders. Billie claims LE has not stepped foot inside any SO home.

Even if you throw out half the statements made, there are serious questions that remain.
Who is even in charge of this investigation? A city manager? Texas Rangers? CCPD? MCSO? Who??
They lost my confidence when they claimed a thousand kid-🤬🤬🤬🤬 & animal 🤬🤬🤬🤬 pics were found and did not throw the whole household in jail to sort out who downloaded that crap.

No charges??? Nope. No charges. So, was there kid 🤬🤬🤬🤬? Or was that a BS story?

I wouldn't be buying it if only Billie stood there, but Carrie McGonigle was doing the most talking. Is she mistaken.... taken in by false stories?

Someone in CCity needs to damn well take charge and set people's minds at ease that they want to find Hailey Dunn.

BBM - Agree wholeheartedly. LE in Colorado City failed Hailey Dunn. I am ashamed for them.
 
  • #63
I truly doubt that searchers would make up stories either. Did LE follow up or didn't they?

Another key statement was about sex offenders. Billie claims LE has not stepped foot inside any SO home.

Even if you throw out half the statements made, there are serious questions that remain.
Who is even in charge of this investigation? A city manager? Texas Rangers? CCPD? MCSO? Who??

They lost my confidence when they claimed a thousand kid-🤬🤬🤬🤬 & animal 🤬🤬🤬🤬 pics were found and did not throw the whole household in jail to sort out who downloaded that crap.

No charges??? Nope. No charges. So, was there kid 🤬🤬🤬🤬? Or was that a BS story?

I wouldn't be buying it if only Billie stood there, but Carrie McGonigle was doing the most talking. Is she mistaken.... taken in by false stories?

Someone in CCity needs to damn well take charge and set people's minds at ease that they want to find Hailey Dunn.

BBM-I have these same feelings.

http://www.elliscountyobserver.com/...hild-🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬-found-in-billie-dunns-house/
FWIW ... Not sure about this guy's credibility.
 
  • #64
The county sheriff is running the investigation. There doesn't seem to be too much doubt about that.

The Texas Rangers and CC Police Dept probably aren't in the loop as to the status.

As for the CP, there were thousands of images of 🤬🤬🤬🤬, but they never said how much CP there was. From the Affidavits however, the 🤬🤬🤬🤬 was in actuall files whereas the CP was in deleted space. It doesnt sound like there was all that much and it was probably just stuff that got accidently downloaded (not hard to do if 🤬🤬🤬🤬 is downloaded from public spaces).
 
  • #65
The only reason SA is a POI is that he quit his job that day. LE have been fixated on him and have very likely not investigated other possibilities adequately as a result. In spite of over half a year they have not got any further in following up on SA, and there is a good chance that he is not involved. But they will never say that. It is like Jaycee Dugards stepdad, they discounted him as a suspect in the first 90 days. but they never told him or anyone else that, and he had to live under a cloud of suspicion for the next 18 years.

After all this time it means that that if someone else was involved, the lack of investigation of other possibilities has allmost certainly meant that they have gotten away with homicide/abduction.

bbm

I think LE has focused on SA for several other reasons besides the fact that he walked out on his job that day (IIRC, SA's employer never said that he quit his job - his employer said he simply left that morning. SA is the one who gave conflicting stories about whether or not he quit).

I think one of the reasons LE has focused on SA as a suspect is because he threatened to kill BD, CD, and possibly also HD on Valentine's Day the year before.

SA was the last known person to have seen HD before she disappeared, and also claimed that she told him she was going to her Dad's and then to a friend's house for a sleepover. Her Dad says she didn't come over that afternoon. Her friend, MB, as well as MB's mother, said that no sleepover had been planned. They also said they had not heard from HD that day.

SA lied about his whereabouts on the day that HD went missing - claiming that he went directly from work that morning to his mother's house, when in fact his cell phone pings placed him in the vicinity of C-City and BD's house shortly after BD left for work.

By his own admission, SA said he threatened to kill BD. The affidavit states that he also admitted to threatening to kill HD. By his own admission, when LE asked him "Who should we be looking at?" after HD went missing, SA said they should look @ both him and BD.

HD's grandmother has stated that HD was afraid of SA. She also stated that HD told her that SA lurked @ her bedroom door.

SA has an attorney to defend him - he can speak on his client's behalf if he feels inclined. I don't feel particularly inclined to defend SA, based on what has been reported, and based on what I know about men who target single mothers with children, so that they can gain access to their children.

There is a confirmed history of domestic violence & drug use in the Dunn household. I refuse to pretend it doesn't play a role in Hailey's disappearance.
 
  • #66
Gutierrez, who has known Dunn for years, said people should put aside their personal feelings in this case and focus on the missing child.

"It doesn't matter what you think about Billie or Shawn," Gutierrez said. "Everyone should stay interested for Hailey."


http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/aug/27/hailey-dunn-not-giving-up-hope-balloon-release/

I beg to differ. LE (with good reason) named SA the only suspect in HD's disappearance. IMO, pretending that SA is irrelevant is not going to help find Hailey, nor will it help to discover who is responsible for her sudden disappearance. IMO, pretending that BD has not continued to defend the only named suspect is not going to help solve Hailey's disappearance.

Ignore and/or forget everything that has come to light since December 27, 2010???? Nope, not gonna do it. I hope that LE will not ignore and/or forget, either.

IMO, it matters what LE thinks about BD & SA, despite the smoke & mirrors game of 'look over here' or 'look over there' that's being played.

LE IMO has played the smoke and mirror game as well and pretending they have facts to the public when they dont- wont bring Hailey home either.

I cant ignore everything LE has said and done since dec 27th and I cant forget LE's inconsistant stories or how about completely changing the story.I also cannot get how unprofessional they have acted in the past in this case and cant help but think they were acting that way while knowing about the media coverage and I have to wonder how unprofessional they would act if they were not being paid attention to? That thought kinda scares me.


I think LE thought Hailey was a run away because people had seen her walking arround after she was last seen and after the person she was last supposed to be visiting was spoke to. JMO.
 
  • #67
I can't even put in words what I am thinking now after this latest 'press conference' ....which was totally unprepared, undignified, unbecoming....
IF they WANT someone to TAKE them seriously, then CALL for press conference, sit down and have your notes and what to say planned out- they might as well have been posting on FB

AGH never mind- I could rip my hair out right about now
I am have 'sleuthed' my a$$ off since Jan. I have stared at maps still my eyes were raw, I have googled and done genealogy and dug and thought and theorized...and I will have to say this latest perturbs me to no end

Poor Hailey- all this drama- I am just sick of it
 
  • #68
bbm

I think LE has focused on SA for several other reasons besides the fact that he walked out on his job that day (IIRC, SA's employer never said that he quit his job - his employer said he simply left that morning. SA is the one who gave conflicting stories about whether or not he quit).

You don't know what SA said, you only know what BD said.

I think one of the reasons LE has focused on SA as a suspect is because he threatened to kill BD, CD, and possibly also HD on Valentine's Day the year before.

Why would idle threats in a domestic dispute a year before have anything to do with the current situation? There was no indication of any actual violence, nor any indication that it was a common occurrence.

SA was the last known person to have seen HD before she disappeared, and also claimed that she told him she was going to her Dad's and then to a friend's house for a sleepover. Her Dad says she didn't come over that afternoon. Her friend, MB, as well as MB's mother, said that no sleepover had been planned. They also said they had not heard from HD that day.

There were other people who claimed to have seen HD that day, including after when SA said he last saw her. In addition, we don't know what SA actually said, only what BD said, and she has a history of paraphrasing everything.

SA lied about his whereabouts on the day that HD went missing - claiming that he went directly from work that morning to his mother's house, when in fact his cell phone pings placed him in the vicinity of C-City and BD's house shortly after BD left for work.

He didnt tell BD at the time (again, according to her). He didn't say he went directly to his mothers house, he said he went to his mothers house. Note the difference. People assumed he went directly there, but instead he went first to the grandmothers house (which you would expect) and then to the mothers house when no one was home at the GM.

By his own admission, SA said he threatened to kill BD. The affidavit states that he also admitted to threatening to kill HD. By his own admission, when LE asked him "Who should we be looking at?" after HD went missing, SA said they should look @ both him and BD.

Again, idle threats in a domestic dispute. The reports of the incident itself doesnt mention any threats against HD, that was added only after HD dissappeared and allmost certainly was due to misunderstanding by SA and/or the investigators during questioning. By saying that they should look at himself and BD he wasn't saying that they were they persons responsible, he was saying that he expected LE to be looking at family first.

HD's grandmother has stated that HD was afraid of SA. She also stated that HD told her that SA lurked @ her bedroom door.

This according to the GM, who didn't like SA anyway. Strangely enough, she didnt tell anyone else (such as CD or BD) about it at the time it supposedly happened, so that puts her credibility in doubt. She could say anything and if HD isnt around to dispute it, who is to say otherwise.

SA has an attorney to defend him - he can speak on his client's behalf if he feels inclined. I don't feel particularly inclined to defend SA, based on what has been reported, and based on what I know about men who target single mothers with children, so that they can gain access to their children.

There is a confirmed history of domestic violence & drug use in the Dunn household. I refuse to pretend it doesn't play a role in Hailey's disappearance.

What confirmed history violence and drug use? The only person arrested for drug use is CD and he didn't live in the house anymore (allbeit across the road instead). There were no arrests for violence.

We have allready gone over all that stuff. Most of that appeared to be misrepresented or comes from questionable sources. A lot of what you SA supposedly said was actually from BD, not SA.
 
  • #69
I've seen cases go unsolved because of bumbling by LE... poor investigative techniques, developing tunnel vision and focusing in one direction instead of keeping an open mind and looking at other possibilities. Yes, I agree Shawn and Billie need to be looked at but they should not be the ONLY ones. LE is obligated to pursue ALL leads in a case and work to solve it, EVEN IF they do not like the people who are involved.

Why were those bones and the tooth not tested? Why was this possible evidence ignored? If they are going to encourage people to search, and then disregard anything searchers find and turn in, does that sound like they are interested in solving the case or finding Hailey? Not to me.

As for the PC, doesn't seem to me like they needed to "call" a press conference complete with prepared notes. Who would not prefer statements that come from the heart and spoken sincerely rather than something they prepared ahead of time? That seems rather staged and I often have a bit of a problem with staged interviews, even from officials.

I've felt for a long time that LE has dropped the ball on this one, and that it will be a long time before Hailey is ever found, if ever.
 
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