Hank C. Jr. (Misty's Brother)

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  • #501
After Tommy had to turn in his guns due to the restraining order, he got arrested (allegedly - since so far we only have TJ Hart's word) for stealing a gun.

My question is - why does Tommy want/need a gun?

Not sure. Why does anybody want/need a gun?
 
  • #502
I imagine for the reason every other person who is told they can't exercise their 2nd Amendment Right wants/needs a gun.......because they do.

Scares the beezus outta me thinking any ONE of the hotheads we've heard of in this case having a gun, legally or no.

BBM

If that's the case and he simply "wanted/needed one", he should have contested the restraining order Misty took out against him. Then it would not have been illegal for him to own/possess one & he would not have had to STEAL ONE. (If in fact that is what he got arrested for this evening).
 
  • #503
I agree that the order exists and should be enforced, but a temp protective order in no way shows that there is a need for it or that the "victim" is being truthful. Courts are very liberal in putting them in place, better safe than sorry. Protective orders have been placed against people who have never met the nut that filed them. Their existence in and of itself proves nothing.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I'm sure there is legislation governing them, and that there must be some legitimate basis for granting them. If the Court believed Tommy over Misty, I doubt they would have granted it.
 
  • #504
I'm not at all sure why you post the "carry on" comments when someone points out you are wrong on something.

If you think the PRO relates to some other incident, please let us know what you think it is.

The Court granted the PRO....no stretching needed.

ETA. re the "carry on"...this is not the army and I don't think it appropriate for posters to order other posters to do things.

Because the PRO was granted due to an assault claim (not even a charge against her brother), which went uncontested. He just said "let her have it." There is no proof. The judge gave it to her by default.

There is no link between an alleged assault of Misty to any trespassing charges. THERE ARE NO TRESPASSING CHARGES. NEVER WERE, NEVER WILL BE.

carry on.
 
  • #505
Not sure. Why does anybody want/need a gun?

Seems to me if someone steals a gun (if that is what he really did this evening), he sure wanted a gun. Why else steal one?
 
  • #506
BBM

If that's the case and he simply "wanted/needed one", he should have contested the restraining order Misty took out against him. Then it would not have been illegal for him to own/possess one & he would not have had to STEAL ONE. (If in fact that is what he got arrested for this evening).


Ain't that the truth? I have given up figuring out why these people choose the illegal way first.
 
  • #507
Seems to me if someone steals a gun (if that is what he really did this evening), he sure wanted a gun. Why else steal one?

Did the friend report his gun stolen, or did the "friend" loan Tommy a stolen gun?
 
  • #508
We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I'm sure there is legislation governing them, and that there must be some legitimate basis for granting them. If the Court believed Tommy over Misty, I doubt they would have granted it.

It was uncontested.
 
  • #509
Because the PRO was granted due to an assault claim (not even a charge against her brother), which went uncontested. He just said "let her have it." There is no proof. The judge gave it to her by default.

There is no link between an alleged assault of Misty to any trespassing charges. THERE ARE NO TRESPASSING CHARGES. NEVER WERE, NEVER WILL BE.

carry on.



There is a link between the two....her complaint/application was based on what happened that night.

If Tommy decided not to defend himself, it's quite likely because he had no defence. The bump on her head and bruises to her body must have been quite embarassing for him. Hardly equates to rescuing her, which is what he claimed.

In any event, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
 
  • #510
Did the friend report his gun stolen, or did the "friend" loan Tommy a stolen gun?

Do you really me expect me to know this answer at this point?

ETA:

THIS is what is known right now, per TJ Hart:

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5225422.php
According to Putnam County Jail records, Hank Thomas “Tommy” Croslin Jr was arrested Tuesday on charges of larceny theft over $300 but under $5000.

The item stolen was a pistol belonging to a friend. 97.3 The Sky will have more details on this as it becomes available.

After being caught with the pistol, Croslin tried to return it and was promptly arrested and placed in the Putnam County Jail with bond set at $50,004.
 
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LOL...you weren't accusing, just asking, so don't worry about it! You may have become confused by the fact that I believe Tommy recently talked about the fact he was scared of Ron because he alleges Ron keeps firearms....which imo, is inconsistent with his trespassing on the property. I believe that if he was truly scared of Ron and thought Ron had a firearm(s), there is no way he would have trespassed on the property that night.
Maybe that's why he didn't go alone...or even why his family wanted to get Misty the heck away? There's so much we just don't know.
 
  • #514
BBM

Unless his little sister called him and said she was in trouble. I'd go get my sister too if she called in distress. And Misty does live there, so she can invite folks over - especially to pick her up or give her a ride outta Dodge.

I just cant envision the Croslins moseyin' over for an univited social call to Mother Sykes.

MOO

I'm terrified of guns, but that wouldn't stop me from trying to help a loved one in danger.

No doubt in my mind, Misty was upset and called her folks. They had good intentions when they went to save her.
 
  • #515
Maybe that's why he didn't go alone...or even why his family wanted to get Misty the heck away? There's so much we just don't know.

If I thought it was a dangerous situation, I sure wouldn't drag my parents into it....even more reason to call LE in my opinion.
 
  • #516
The basis for the complaint for the PRO was the incident that night. If you think it was re some other incident, as I've said before, I'd be happy to hear what other incident you think it relates to.

The CRO was because Misty said he hit her and she feared him. There was no charge of trespass, period.

Someone today said "innocent until proven guilty." LE was there, and they were told Misty's, Ron's and GGMS version, and they still did not charge the Croslins with trespass.

Anyway, this has been explained ad nauseum, and I don't want to annoy the mods any further. Just wish we could stop stating things as fact when they are not.
 
  • #517
I'm terrified of guns, but that wouldn't stop me from trying to help a loved one in danger.

No doubt in my mind, Misty was upset and called her folks. They had good intentions when they went to save her.

Misty was in danger???? Aren't you one of the ones who believes she is the key to Haleigh's disappearance? I would have thought it was Jr. in danger if Misty was responsible for Haleigh's disappearance???? Hmmmm.
 
  • #518
The CRO was because Misty said he hit her and she feared him. There was no charge of trespass, period.

Someone today said "innocent until proven guilty." LE was there, and they were told Misty's, Ron's and GGMS version, and they still did not charge the Croslins with trespass.

Anyway, this has been explained ad nauseum, and I don't want to annoy the mods any further. Just wish we could stop stating things as fact when they are not.

Perhaps you missed it....she says he came onto the property uninvited, and that she was hit by him during the course of the ensuing altercation. She also alleged he was violent towards her in the past. The court has determined the matter in Misty's favor, and granted her the PRO. Not only did he not defend it, but if the reports we are hearing today are true, he's already breached it. Sounds like someone who doesn't have much respect for the law imo to be stealing a firearm and breaching a PRO all in one go, if the allegations are true.
 
  • #519
Could this charge be about the van that was said to have been sold, but the title hasn't changed ownership? Maybe he went and got it back? Was that Tommy's van or Timmy's?:waitasec:


Lisa Croslin has ownership of the red truck and the story goes that Hank Sr needed the truck to attend medical appts for himself and Hank Sr gave Hank Jr $500 to stop him from selling the truck. Hank Jr crossed his father and sold the truck to someone illegally because no transfer of ownership occurred between Lisa and the new owner. I wondered if Hank would be charged for theft or some related crime. Apparently the truck was located & recovered by LE with TM's help. Allegedly Tommy got rid of the red truck shortly after Haleigh disappeared. It is Lindsy, Tommy's wife who owns the blue van that had Misty's blanket in it the day Haleigh disappeared.
 
  • #520
I didn't miss anything, and my points remain the same.

There is a trend here in the back and forth that I'm afraid is going to be trouble this continues to be pushed, so I'm going to bow out. If you ever find where the Croslins were charged with trespass, I'd welcome the note.
 
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