Has Raven publicly denied involvement in Janet's Murder?

  • #21
RainbowsAndGumdrops said:
I thought about asking Raven about it, but was too scared. You've seen the Christmas video... he carries a knife "just in case". I wonder what he has told the girl that he is dating.
Yes, I saw that video, and have every single frame of it, downloaded onto my computer. I have still shots of that video, in sequence.

When I come here, and when I see there is no arrest yet, there is no new news, I get tired, frustrated, sad and I start feeling a little defeated, and at a loss of what to do or say to help out, that is when I go back into my computer and look at the still shots of him with the buck knife and I hear The Raven's words in my head "I got myself a buck knife."

I look at Pictures of Janet holding Kaiden and the love she had for her child, the sweetness of her smile, and realize, she is gone, she was taken from this Earth, from her child Kaiden, her family and her friends.

All of a sudden, I find myself less tired, less weary and even more determined to see Justice for Janet, her unborn child, Kaiden and all of Janet's friends and family.

Then I imagine The Raven hearing the song Dream Police in his head:

I try to sleep, they’re wide awake, they won’t leave me alone.
They don’t get paid to take vacations, or let me alone.
They spy on me, I try to hide, they won’t let me alone.
They persecute me, they’re the judge and jury all in one.


It gives me the stamina I need to stay focused on doing whatever I can do to help find Justice for Janet and I am so grateful for all those here that are also doing what they can to help find Justice for Janet and the precious baby she was carrying.
 
  • #22
RainbowsAndGumdrops said:
I thought about asking Raven about it, but was too scared. You've seen the Christmas video... he carries a knife "just in case". I wonder what he has told the girl that he is dating.
Carries a knife on his person or in his vehicle? Has he always carried a knife "just in case" or is this since the murder? Surely "just in case" wouldn't apply to someone asking him a question he doesn't like?!?! :eek:
 
  • #23
Well, I do remember the "just in case I run across a deer", but I was thinking animals.

Maybe he cannot differentiate between an animal and a human?
 
  • #24
terminatrixator said:
Well, I do remember the "just in case I run across a deer", but I was thinking animals.
Ah, okay ... the comment from the video. Yeah, I just took that as silly talk in the video. R&G - you know Raven - was there something about what he said or how he said it that made you think that he was implying something more serious?
 
  • #25
Just the look in Janet's eye when he whipped out the knife. I guess i would think it were silly talk too if Janet were still with us.
 
  • #26
RainbowsAndGumdrops said:
I guess i would think it were silly talk too if Janet were still with us.
I didn't mean it that way. I just meant that since you know him, perhaps there was something you saw in his demeanor or heard in his intonations or word choices that those of us that don't know him wouldn't recognize. Something that made you personally afraid of Raven.
 
  • #27
No, nothing about his behavior there that really struck me. I guess that I don't like people that say that they carry buck knives all the time and whip them out.
 
  • #28
  • #29
JerseyGirl said:
Carries a knife on his person or in his vehicle? Has he always carried a knife "just in case" or is this since the murder? Surely "just in case" wouldn't apply to someone asking him a question he doesn't like?!?! :eek:
This is a fact. He always carried/carries a knife "just in case" They were kept in his cars and home.
 
  • #30
RainbowsAndGumdrops said:
terminatrixator said:
Awesome questions JG.


"The search warrant was issued at 3:15 am on April 27, 2005, the search warranted was executed at 5:45 am. I heard Janet's parents heard about the murder through a phone call placed by Raven when he arrived back at the home of the church members who were watching Kaiden, the husband picked Raven up from the PD or was there waiting at PD for him, (not sure of the exact version) when they got back to the church member's home where the wife was watching Kaiden, Raven contacted Janet's parents and was unintelligible and he handed the phone to the Church Member (Male) who then informed Janet's family that Janet committed suicide. At 3:15 the search warrant clearly stated "MURDER." (this happened between 3:00 am - 5:30 am.)"


Are we sure about this? This is not the story I have heard about the Christiansen's finding out. I thought it was late afternoon the next day by the time they found out and that they found out through church leaders, not Raven. I did not think the Christiansens talked to Raven until after they heard about Janet. It was none of my business, so I never asked them. Just saying what I heard. Also, I had not heard the suicide comments anywhere but on websleuths. Are we sure about those details too? If I am going to mentally send Raven to jail 1000 times a day, I just want to make sure my facts are straight.
I too am sure about this story. I have had a chance to speak with Janet's family and this is what happened. I don't know what led to the church member saying suicide (I can only guess) but knowing that this is what was said has kept me going in the fight for justice.
 
  • #31
So again, I will ask this question.

Has any of the Raven Supporters, Friends or Family ASKED Raven OUTRIGHT. Did you Kill Janet?

Has he EVER denied being involved with Janet and her unborn childs death? Has even MENTIONED her being MURDERED and talk about the fact that SHE WAS MURDERED.

I would love to hear from anyone, and I won't make any of my snippy snide remarks afterwards.

I would love to hear from ONE person even that they have actually ASKED him POINT blank - DID YOU KILL YOUR WIFE, and what his demeanor or reaction was.

I think even his friends and family are too afraid to ask, because they will see the truth behind those stoney, uncaring, unfeeling, sociopathic eyes!
 
  • #32
terminatrixator said:
So again, I will ask this question.

Has any of the Raven Supporters, Friends or Family ASKED Raven OUTRIGHT. Did you Kill Janet?

Has he EVER denied being involved with Janet and her unborn childs death? Has even MENTIONED her being MURDERED and talk about the fact that SHE WAS MURDERED.

I would love to hear from anyone, and I won't make any of my snippy snide remarks afterwards.

I would love to hear from ONE person even that they have actually ASKED him POINT blank - DID YOU KILL YOUR WIFE, and what his demeanor or reaction was.

I think even his friends and family are too afraid to ask, because they will see the truth behind those stoney, uncaring, unfeeling, sociopathic eyes!
Rerun...
 

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