Have you changed your mind about this case?What Caused the change?

[impatientredhead]

I have wondered that too. Evidently, the purse was also laid in the passenger seat. Cindy keeps asking what kind of woman would leave her purse behind. George would have had to have wondered that as well being an ex-cop. I think that I would have thought with the smell, abandoned car and purse, then there was foul play. Particularly, as a father, I would assume that he would have been worried that something happened to both is daughter and granddaughter. Granted, Casey was either calling or texting her mother every day... Something could have happened still where he should have called. My boyfriend has been saying, from the beginning, that George discovered Caylee's body in the trunk after he picked up the car. Then George disposed of it the way a cop would know how. I have to say that I did wonder that at first. Especially, after George keeps saying that he thinks that LE probably found "inconclusive" evidence in the trunk; instead of saying that the trunk tested negative for decomp, he said inconclusive. It just seemed like a play on words. As if he was saying that he cleaned the trunk and they weren't going to find anything.

In all honesty, I am so confused by the case that I would have to admit to flip-flopping. I can see there is definite reasonable doubt, but I do not think that Baez is smart enough to put that together properly. Another attorney could easily catch it all and mold a great defense with this case, but I don't think he's the guy. In other words, I am just not that worried about it. I think Casey is going back to jail, but I just do not know if it will be for murder. If the trunk, boots, and anything else tested positive for decomp and Caylee's DNA, then I'll be the first to say lock the key and do not let her out.

Maybe Casey left her purse in the death reeking car so whomever found it would think something happened to her as well? Did she just get distracted partying with Tony and forget to dissappear? Did Cindy drag her out of the apartment before her planned departure?

 

[Thinking_Out_Loud]

Maybe Casey left her purse in the death reeking car so whomever found it would think something happened to her as well? Did she just get distracted partying with Tony and forget to dissappear? Did Cindy drag her out of the apartment before her planned departure?

What if she left the car there with the purse because she was counting on someone to steal the car? The area where Amscot (at the corner of Colonial and Goldenrod) is pretty scary. Sometimes I believe that she wanted someone to steal it so she could pretend that her car was hijacked or something. It would put someone else's DNA in the car. Plus, the car would probably have been found in another town, or in a lake. She could tell TonE that her father was picking it up. Whenever someone stole it, then she could tell him that she picked it up from her parents', and took Caylee out. Caylee was in the car when she was hijacked! No car, no purse, no car seat, no phone, no bad smell, and no Caylee. It would seem like the perfect crime, but uh oh someone towed the car. She could have found that out if she drove by the Amscot when it was happening. On the other hand, she could have found out because she asked someone from Amscot soon afterwards about the car. There are two women who killed their kids and blamed a hijacker. One is Diane Downs (she shot her kids in the car) and the other is Susan Smith (she drowned her children in her car).

Just a thought..

 

[txsvicki]

The car really bothers me. If Tony or Amy can verify that Casey drove that vehicle often, or even themselves rode in it, before or after the 24th, then it proves that Caylee was in no way kidnapped. Also, why did she just give up about the car. She had no way of knowing it would be stolen and might be towed. Why did she want to just give it back to her parents? Was she expecting them to clean it up, give her thousands to search for Caylee, and just keep quiet.

 

[sweetwater]

What if she left the car there with the purse because she was counting on someone to steal the car? The area where Amscot (at the corner of Colonial and Goldenrod) is pretty scary. Sometimes I believe that she wanted someone to steal it so she could pretend that her car was hijacked or something. It would put someone else's DNA in the car. Plus, the car would probably have been found in another town, or in a lake. She could tell TonE that her father was picking it up. Whenever someone stole it, then she could tell him that she picked it up from her parents', and took Caylee out. Caylee was in the car when she was hijacked! No car, no purse, no car seat, no phone, no bad smell, and no Caylee. It would seem like the perfect crime, but uh oh someone towed the car. She could have found that out if she drove by the Amscot when it was happening. On the other hand, she could have found out because she asked someone from Amscot soon afterwards about the car. There are two women who killed their kids and blamed a hijacker. One is Diane Downs (she shot her kids in the car) and the other is Susan Smith (she drowned her children in her car).

Just a thought..

I've thought the same thing. I'm glad you gave me an idea of the neighborhood, too. Is it a busy street, right on an intersection? Did you know she left her keys in it, too?
I think she either left it there to get stolen, but since it reeked so bad no one would touch it, or she left it there for George and Cindy to deal with.

 

[Foxxtrot]

This case is like no other. If the dogs didn't hit on the trunk and the backyard, I'd be more willing to think she may be alive...but dogs dont lie.

But dogs and their handlers do make mistakes.

 

[sindydee]

I have changed my general impression of the GP's, from seeing them as mere victims who only want Caylee back, to something less admirable.

As to the case in general, the daily parade of propagandists on behalf of the defense doesn't affect me at all. It remains simple to me. The mother who was the last known person to see her daughter alive can offer no credible explanation for what happened to her or to justify her failure to do anything to help find her. None of the nebulous stuff about fear and danger holds up to scrutiny. The fact CA has been charged with related crimes and has a right not to incriminate herself goes without saying. But a mother who cared wouldn't let that stop her, or allow day after day to go by without any sense of urgency to rescue her child. Most mothers would risk their lives for their children, so of course they would risk their freedom to save a helpless 3 year old. Leave aside the cadaver dogs. If there was a living child out there to be found, I'm convinced her mother would be able to talk and would be moving heaven and earth to save her. That would include engaging with any LE available. It's Day 2 out of jail. What has the Anthony family done to find her, other than to have their spokesperson say something from across the country. I would LOVE to be wrong, about everything.

Good post. This hits the nail on the head. Regardless of the media circus surrrounding this case, the facts remain the same. There is no new information and nothing is going to happen unless 1. She talks or 2. the LE have found evidence.

 

[EastSideOfSaddness]

I've thought the same thing. I'm glad you gave me an idea of the neighborhood, too. Is it a busy street, right on an intersection? Did you know she left her keys in it, too?
I think she either left it there to get stolen, but since it reeked so bad no one would touch it, or she left it there for George and Cindy to deal with.

I don't think that corner is specifically scary at all except for the fact that it's off of Colonial Drive (SR50) which has a lot of accidents. There are PLENTY of other scary places in Orlando--that specific location being at the bottom of the list.

If anyone would like me to film that location or any others let me know.

 

[miss plum]

i've wondered if the gas cans were left in the car in the heat in the hope they would combust and destroy evidence.

 

[Alyzabeth]

My mind hasn't changed since the beginning. I believe Casey sent Caylee away with someone she trusts to protect her. I believe that is why she stole the money, so she could give the person money to live on for a while. I also believe the decomp smell is very real, but not Caylee's body. I believe it is possible Caylee is a witness to a serious crime that took place prior to Caylee's disappearance.
With Casey knowing and having ties to at least 3 people in LE, one way or another, I feel she fears there is corruption within the system and that is why she isn't about to divulge information about where Caylee is until she is certain they won't be able to get to her first.
I would go to great lengths to protect any of my 4 children or 8 grandchildren. That is the perspective I am looking at this from.
I seriously doubt the cast that is currently involved in all this would have jumped on board if there is not at least some hope of finding Caylee alive. Who would want to waste so much money and time on someone that they feel is guilty? There are plenty of other people they could be helping if they just wanted publicity.
I feel they jumped on board for the same reason that I am so drawn to this case...They believe Casey is innocent of harming Caylee. I'm not saying I think Casey is a good mother, or an honest one. I am saying I do not feel she harmed her daughter.

 

[passionflower]

Being a mom and grandma, I know how kids cry after a few weeks for mommy. It drives you nuts. Even if mommy is in the hospital and they know it and see her, they get homesick. I think any babysitter would send her back. IMO, the baby Caylee is gone.
Casey is buying time because she thinks no body, no crime. Casey knows where and what happened and doesn't care. IMO, her feelings were fake for her unwanted child.
Cindy raised that baby while mom party all night, hung over slept over at boyfriend's.
Grandparents got sick of it and that's when Casey had to be responsible and couldn't handle being a mom. I still believe Caylee is in heaven, GOD help me, I hope I am wrong!
IMO

 

[passionflower]

Plum.
I agree with your theory on the gas cans.

 

[ShouldBWorking]

I am sadly changing my idea about GPs and brother, I have been a huge defender of the Anthony Family, but as days go by and she stays shacked up at the house eating pizza, taking hot showers and hugging her family I question their loyalty to Caylee and that makes me sad.

 

[Thinking_Out_Loud]

I've thought the same thing. I'm glad you gave me an idea of the neighborhood, too. Is it a busy street, right on an intersection? Did you know she left her keys in it, too?
I think she either left it there to get stolen, but since it reeked so bad no one would touch it, or she left it there for George and Cindy to deal with.

It is on the corner of an intersection. I think most of East Colonial is bad area. I wouldn't leave my car there, if I didn't want someone to steal it. I have no idea about the keys. It is funny that you asked that because I was just thinking about that before I turned on my computer. I would have liked to know if they keys were in the car or if the doors were unlocked. I assume that the towing company probably just put the car up on a flat bed truck and drove it away. In that case, only George would be able to tell us the status of the keys and doors. I also wonder what was in the purse. Did she take out any money or her mother's credit cards? If she did not, then that might be the motive for she stealing her friend Amy's money and checks. Furthermore, Cindy says that she was either receiving phone calls or text messages from Casey every day since she had been gone. If that's true, then what phone was she using within the last few days? She presumably had no phone because it was in her purse that was in her car. I hope LE are checking more phone records than just her cellphone...

 

[Thinking_Out_Loud]

I don't think that corner is specifically scary at all except for the fact that it's off of Colonial Drive (SR50) which has a lot of accidents. There are PLENTY of other scary places in Orlando--that specific location being at the bottom of the list.

If anyone would like me to film that location or any others let me know.

It is scary enough that you would not want to leave your car unattended. Yes, there are worse places in Orlando, but I do not think that she would abandon a car in the slums on account that would be placing her life in danger. Plus, the Amscot was close enough to TonE's apartment that she knew he wouldn't mind giving her a ride from there. It is possible that her car ran out of gas, but we would have to assume that George brought his trusty gas cans to fill her up or he borrowed gas when he picked it up.

 

[maskedwoman]

No, I haven't changed my mind. My gut feeling never changed with
OJ, Susan Smith, or Scott Peterson. It hasn't changed with Casey either.

I wonder why Casey hasn't brought Caylee home yet?
She has been out of jail for about 30 hours now...if she were 'with a friend' and 'close to home', it shouldn't take 30 hours.:furious:

Amen, to that. I feel the same way. I had very strong feelings about those cases, as well. And my "gut", female intuition, whatever you want to call it, is insisting to me that Casey killed her beautiful child. I'm up in the air about her exactly motivation - sudden rage, revenge on Cindy Dearest, because she was cramping her style, etc. But, if you can ignore all the yammering and just focus on what we know to be true about her and family dynamic, I don't see any other outcome that makes sense.

 

[maskedwoman]

Let me play devil's advocate

Suppose Casey knew a bunch of people that you and I might consider dirt-bags. They come and go, sponge off people, live on people's couches then disappear, petty crime, all that stuff.

Say she gave Caylee to one of these dirt-bags for whatever reason. Said dirt-bag could easily go to Mexico from the first day Casey left Caylee in their possession.

It would be easy for someone who is this type of dirt-bag to disappear and not raise any eyebrows.

Okay.... but why? Why be saddled with a 3 year old for two months? What is in it for said dirtbag?

 

[maskedwoman]

You know Tricia, I was thinking almost the same exact thing. Let's say hypothetically speaking, that ZFG has Caylee, or this " friend ". My first thought was, Mexico. There isn't much coverage in a country like that, especially in the slum areas, so not seeing the news reports wont have the person running for a telephone to report that they have Caylee and they were given the child by Casey to take with them. People have said Puerto Rico, and that's also a possibility. Could someone have possibly flew with Caylee to Puerto Rico and drop her off at someone's house. Maybe they were told that the child was in danger and had to stay put. It's easy to get Caylee a ticket with a different name on it. No one checks identification for domestic flights. My question: do we know anyone who frequents this forum who is from Mexico or Puerto Rico?

raying: for Caylee

Where did you get the idea that they don't check ID on domestic flights? I don't fly frequently (2-3 times a year) but every time I do, they compare my id to my ticket.

 

[txsvicki]

If Caylee were in danger why wouldn't these people just have one of their friends take Caylee home to Cindy. Nothing has happened to Lee, George, or Cindy. Nothing at all happened to Casey except she got her car and clothes stinky.

 

[keeponsearching]

ok this is really dumb but I wonder if casey had the car in drive and it stalled and she tried to turn it back on but it wouldnt start... I have done that before. And almost went walking two miles to a phone in the middle of the night then realize i needed to put it in park. Maybe this frustrated her and she did not even pay attention. Now did she leave the keys in the car.

But I see the pics as nothing. Everyone has fun once in awhile they pics are probably funny to her an dher friends so..

So I think besides Casey lying about Caylee that Casey is also an airhead and sometimes does not think before she does something. THe car, the apartments losing the right one, and probably more stuff.

I think Caylee is alive but that can change if evidence comes back.

 

[feddup]

See, this threw me off too. When Cindy was on NG she corrected Nancy by saying "not 2 dogs 1 dog" and Nancy said okay, whatever and didn't insist there were 2 so at that point I was going :waitasec: because nobody could deny if 2 dogs hit that something was definetly there and that's what had me super convinced at first. Then Cindy was on Greta and said that LE told her all the hits were "inconsistent", so I'm still kinda going:waitasec: about the whole dog thing. I wish I could here the facts about this once and for all but LE is being so tight lipped about it and I can't believe a word Cindy says!

So if anyone has anymore info. on this please enlighten me 'cause I'm just confused.

The GSD, Gerus, searched the car......it only takes one really good dog. I wish I could find K9 Gerus' credentials, certification, etc but havent been able to.
From what I understand, 2 dogs were brought into the backyard.
I believe in the car dog....these dogs are heavily trained, their handlers go to seminars and so Cindy, no I doubt if he was "inconsistent" he would NOT pay any attention to a pizza smell:bang: but he WOULD pick up on decomp smells.