GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #2

[heartgoesout]

try again now

 

[RunDaSurf]

I think the idea he is dumb came because of his Hawaii News Now interview Feb 13. And not being a good actor like someone trying to get away with murder would need to. If he planned to use the interview to get wrong info out then that might not be dumb. Otherwise giving the interview was dumb. Taking a polygraph was dumb. It is probably not admissable though.
Anyhow he was 24 year old. Even if he is smart he is inexperienced. That will seem dumb in ways. And someone who doesn't have normal social skills can seem dumb.
He is a millenial and used a lot of social media so so i think he would think about the phone ping.

 

[puakenikeni]

I think the idea he is dumb came because of his Hawaii News Now interview Feb 13. And not being a good actor like someone trying to get away with murder would need to. If he planned to use the interview to get wrong info out then that might not be dumb. Otherwise giving the interview was dumb. Taking a polygraph was dumb. It is probably not admissable though.
Anyhow he was 24 year old. Even if he is smart he is inexperienced. That will seem dumb in ways. And someone who doesn't have normal social skills can seem dumb.
He is a millenial and used a lot of social media so so i think he would think about the phone ping.

Well put, agree with each of those excellent points.

yes, polygraph results are not admissible. In fact one point in the motion to dismiss was that GJ had been given inference of a failed polygraph without stating as much. Because the time he was treated as a suspect was right after he voluntarily took the polygraph -- so inference is that he failed. IIRC

 

[heartgoesout]

hey where you seeing the motion to dismiss info??

 

[puakenikeni]

The tracking app in her phone had been deleted.

Do you mean the Find My iPhone feature? IPhones also have Location Services built in that are not an app, but the setting can be turned off. The way to stop the phone from pinging a cell tower when it comes into range of a new one is to power it off. Why didn't he? A powers off phone will not ring as here did and continued to do. It will go straight to voicemail. (I know some or all of you know that, just explaining what I think doesn't make sense if the phone ping wasn't a set up.

A lot of mistakes make sense if the attack was an outburst of rage, but no one close to them seems to think it went down like that.

 

[puakenikeni]

hey where you seeing the motion to dismiss info??

I posts the links back when I first posted here, but I'm not sure which page that was. I'm just on my phone and out doing stuff right now, but I can find it when I get back to the desktop.

 

[heartgoesout]

i don't know what app it was. I just remember reading that a some sort of app she had was deleted.

 

[heartgoesout]

I wish all those Facebook pages weren't deleted. A study, crabapple etc...

 

[Loio]

The Maui News, March. 20, 2015 article is the one I'm referring to as far as to the location of the rips in her bra. I could've sworn I read it was in the left armpit but looking over it again, it doesn't specify left or right side. It does however say that the skirt holes are concentrated on one side from which I deduced that she was attacked in her car.

That said, gloves were found on another beach and if they reveal that her blood is on them, I think he got out of the truck, walked around the back, put the gloves on and then attacked her in her seat.

Why would his alibi include the general area where all of her stuff was found? Maybe so he could try to pin it on someone else.

 

[RunDaSurf]

The app was Life360. The free version apparently auto-erases its history.

Life360

 

[Loio]

Also Hawaii would be 5 hours behind PA last February 2014. Hawaii does not observe Daylight Savings.

 

[RunDaSurf]

Been thinking tonight how SC talked so much to everyone and was all over the island after for months. Maybe he wanted everyone to know she was brutally murdered and think he did it and to get away with murder. But ultimately didn't care as much wether he'd get away with it or not as he cared that everyone know he murdered her brutally.

 

[RunDaSurf]

I don't understand. I've researched this product and as far as I can see, Life360 does nothing with actual pings. The phone still pings like it's supposed to. It might erase a history off the phone, but it doesn't erase the history from the provider. What I do see is that once a phone is turned off, Life360 does not allow you to look up the tracking history if a user was not actually logged in at the time the phone was turned off or went dead. If the phone was turned off to save battery power (I do this when I am going through an area I know doesn't have coverage because it will drain the battery incredibly fast), the app wouldn't update, either.

Interesting app that appears to have a lot of bugs, IMO. I hope the family can get a copy of Charli's records from her cell phone provider, but that usually takes a court order.

Ghostwheel took time to look into Life360

 

[heartgoesout]

Also Hawaii would be 5 hours behind PA last February 2014. Hawaii does not observe Daylight Savings.

really?! nice! learn something new everyday!

 

[Loio]

As an Apple user, I think the "pings" were mentioned in one of the earliest articles because when we lose one of our Apple devices, we can "ping" it to locate its whereabouts. I do it all the time but not if the phone is turned off or the cell can't find a signal.

Maybe he couldn't find her phone. Maybe he was trying to do everything in the dark to avoid detection.
I wonder if her keys and wallet were left in the truck and burned?

 

[heartgoesout]

The Maui News, March. 20, 2015 article is the one I'm referring to as far as to the location of the rips in her bra. I could've sworn I read it was in the left armpit but looking over it again, it doesn't specify left or right side. It does however say that the skirt holes are concentrated on one side from which I deduced that she was attacked in her car.

That said, gloves were found on another beach and if they reveal that her blood is on them, I think he got out of the truck, walked around the back, put the gloves on and then attacked her in her seat.

Why would his alibi include the general area where all of her stuff was found? Maybe so he could try to pin it on someone else.

I feel like I read the left somewhere too...is the article "updated" I did see the family had to change incorrect info on an article. No idea which one.

 

[heartgoesout]

Cant find her birthday. grrr

 

[RunDaSurf]

Charli gets to SC's grandfather's house around 8:30PM.
Was grandfather there???????????????????
If grandfather there SC probably thinks to show grandfather he left at 8:30.
Charli's phone pinged in Keanae around 11PM.
Time in between SC could turned off her phone and been in Haiku or anywhere near.
If you premeditate you can get a hole in the ground ready and have plants to cover it.

 

[RunDaSurf]

If he stabbed her he had blood all over him. He had to do it near water or a hose or a shower.

 

[RunDaSurf]

And if he had blood all over him and wasn't near a shower or hose or beach to get him self in water I don't think he went straight to Peahi to burn the SUV with blood on him.