GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #3

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  • #601
^^^ Wait, I'm in agreement with what Heart said about her uncle's murder and not being in the know. This is EXACTLY what's going on in Charli's case. •thumbs up•
Yes, of course. They don't release what they have. That goes without saying, and we also have KS saying multiple times that the family is not privy to most of the evidence.

As far as our sleuthing goes, we just don't know what it is they have that we don't know. But at times they let drop some general info on the type of case they have, like saying it is circumstantial. I don't think I can find that quote, but we talked about it earlier here.

I don't know where to find jury instructions on line, but I could search at some point. Today is just crazy busy. Have a good day, guys.
 
  • #602
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Looks like ****. Hurry up and confess.
 
  • #603
He gets scarier and more demented looking with each picture.
Although this one reminds me of the Heat Miser in that kids Christmas cartoon.
 
  • #604
Was that all there was to the grandfather's testimony??
 
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the Heat Miser
 
  • #607
Yes, of course. They don't release what they have. That goes without saying, and we also have KS saying multiple times that the family is not privy to most of the evidence.

As far as our sleuthing goes, we just don't know what it is they have that we don't know. But at times they let drop some general info on the type of case they have, like saying it is circumstantial. I don't think I can find that quote, but we talked about it earlier here.

I don't know where to find jury instructions on line, but I could search at some point. Today is just crazy busy. Have a good day, guys.

That doesn't go without saying...they may not have anything...
 
  • #608
Lol Heart, that pic is ridiculous.
 
  • #609
I was hoping to get more insight from the step-grandfather.
 
  • #610
http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/598888/

"That testimony followed Loo's third day of questioning in 2nd Circuit Court. Loo acknowledged that he committed an oversight when he failed to explicitly tell Capobianco about his right to an attorney before interviewing him on Feb. 12, 2014.

Loo said that he read aloud each line of the Maui Police Department's warnings and waiver form to Capobianco inside an audio and video recording room at the Wailuku Police Station. He said that Capobianco would initial each warning as he read it to him, but he did not go over the provision that advised Capobianco of his right to legal counsel.
"You can't say positively that he had time to stop and read" that he had a right to an attorney? defense attorney Jon Apo asked Loo.
"I cannot, sir," Loo replied.
Loo said Capobianco spoke to him and another detective inside a 10-by-10-foot room for about 30 minutes at the station."


 
  • #611
http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/598888/

"That testimony followed Loo's third day of questioning in 2nd Circuit Court. Loo acknowledged that he committed an oversight when he failed to explicitly tell Capobianco about his right to an attorney before interviewing him on Feb. 12, 2014.

Loo said that he read aloud each line of the Maui Police Department's warnings and waiver form to Capobianco inside an audio and video recording room at the Wailuku Police Station. He said that Capobianco would initial each warning as he read it to him, but he did not go over the provision that advised Capobianco of his right to legal counsel.
"You can't say positively that he had time to stop and read" that he had a right to an attorney? defense attorney Jon Apo asked Loo.
"I cannot, sir," Loo replied.
Loo said Capobianco spoke to him and another detective inside a 10-by-10-foot room for about 30 minutes at the station."


*tears hair* seriously, MPD? because that provision about right to attorney is not at all important ... OMG.
 
  • #612
"The hearing on the motion to suppress Capobianco's statements is expected to continue July 16, when the defense plans to call another police officer to testify.

What an angonizing long wait for the family.....6 more weeks to continue the motion to suppress.
 
  • #613
*tears hair* seriously, MPD? because that provision about right to attorney is not at all important ... OMG.

SC appeared to be reading and following along to what Det. Loo was reading aloud and initialized every line. Was he supposed to read each line 10 times? Was SC just initializing without reading and comprehending? Whose fault is that? Maybe Apo should pursue n insanity appeal.
 
  • #614
Correct, who's responsibility is it to understand what you are initiating? Yours or the person that gave you the pen?

Was the warning and waiver form normal and required or did Loo do that on his own? Was Loo REQUIRED to go over his right to an attorney before interviewing him?
 
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Loo reads each line. SC follows along and initializes each line. Loo observes.
 
  • #616
...Very poor, vague, reportage--We cannot tell with any clarity what transpired in the interrogation room OR at the interviews between LE and SC... C'monMaui News!! Was anyone out there at the courtroom who can be precise?
 
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Loo reads each line. SC follows along and initializes each line. Loo observes.

Wait, I thought Loo didn't go over this? Was he required to? Do you have a copy of what he DID go over, the warnings and waivers form?
 
  • #618
Wait, I thought Loo didn't go over this? Was he required to? Do you have a copy of what he DID go over, the warnings and waivers form?

He did not go over it until the interview after the lie detector test. There was no reason too. Charli was an adult. There was no reason to suspect foul play. Until Nala was found. Until her car was found.
 
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...Very poor, vague, reportage--We cannot tell with any clarity what transpired in the interrogation room OR at the interviews between LE and SC... C'monMaui News!! Was anyone out there at the courtroom who can be precise?
The intent of the defense is not elicit the truth. It is to mangle it. To try and elicit a contradiction from LE. There is no sese to what Apo is doing. he is trying to make Loo dance from a six shooter. Dont blame Maui News because Apo's questioning is ridiculous. I cant stand Maui News.
 
  • #620
The intent of the defense is not elicit the truth. It is to mangle it. To try and elicit a contradiction from LE. There is no sese to what Apo is doing. he is trying to make Loo dance from a six shooter. Dont blame Maui News because Apo's questioning is ridiculous. I cant stand Maui News.

Warning: Vent following--
Thanks, PT. But, I'm not blaming MN because apo's questioning is ridiculous; I'm blaming MN for lousy reporting and writing.
My comment lamented a frustratingly uninformative article, and I'm simply stating that from the report we cannot be sure WHAT was said or done with regard to ANYTHING, because the piece itself is written and organized so poorly--disjointed half-facts, haphazardly strung together. This leads to pointless assumptions, speculation and confusion on the readers' part, --all decidedly unhelpful...but we musn't have clarity! ...And what about MN choosing to say Loo "acknowledged" [that he committed an oversight] --a word loaded with innuendo? What came prior which would justify or explain both Loo and the reporter's thinking? Can we just have an exact quote, please? And Gee I wish I didn't have to guess which document they're for sure talking about--ASSUMED to be the Miranda Warning Document, which you, PT, so thoughtfully provided--because that doc very clearly covers SC's right to an attorney. Yet now we ponder... what is not "explicit" about ONLY This one part of the "MPD warnings and waver form" (which WAS "read aloud" and "each warning" WAS initialed by SC)? We must piece together the mess, always wondering what information is missing.To boot, we are left to figure out what is not "explicit" about "reading aloud"--ONLY failing to be explicit for the read aloud attorney part (s?)
Should we think that maybe Loo speed-mumbled through the attorney parts? The first & second were nice and loud and clear--those initials count--but numbers three and four sounded kind of mffrstashny--oh but then he recovered his clear, explicit Miranda voice for number five and finished well.
...Oh yes, another thing: why twice make ill-placed references to the 10 x 10 audio and video room, and word it as if it might be two different rooms? See? I wrote it clearly. I can see Apo using the room descriptions as emotional manipulation, but MN's word and placement choices are illogical and misleading.
So, yes, we know well what defense is up to--but what we don't know so well is what happened in the courtroom. :moo::moo::moo:
OK, I'm done.


Mpd warnings and waiver form, Miranda:http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=76162

http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/598888/
["That testimony followed Loo's third day of questioning in 2nd Circuit Court. Loo acknowledged that he committed an oversight when he failed to*explicitly tell Capobianco about his right to an attorney before interviewing him on Feb. 12, 2014.
Loo said that he read aloud each line of the Maui Police Department's warnings and waiver form to Capobianco inside an audio and video recording room at the Wailuku Police Station. He said that Capobianco would initial each warning as he read it to him, but he did not go over the provision that advised Capobianco of his right to legal counsel.
"You can't say positively that he had time to stop and read" that he had a right to an attorney? defense attorney Jon Apo asked Loo.
"I cannot, sir," Loo replied.
Loo said Capobianco spoke to him and another detective inside a 10-by-10-foot room for about 30 minutes at the station."]
 
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