GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #3

[puakenikeni]

Nicely done Pua.
I believe Charli never left Haiku. I believe he waited for her near her home. I believe he used the garage in the Facebook pic for some things. I believe the evidence was planted or dropped in haste.
I believe the skull painting marks the spot he ultimately discarded her where the red ink blob is.

Thank you (all) for letting me put the thoughts out there again. Sometimes useful (to me anyway) thoughts come up through simply writing and watching how it goes.

hgo, ooh, I had forgotten about the garage pics, but yes, I agree there is significance in which shots he has chosen to post, including the garage, and the skull. Did you or anyone identify the geographical spot correlating to the red blob? That's a very interesting idea.

Does anyone have the direct link to the skull post here on WS and the discussion?

I am happy to hear I have company in thinking her home vicinity was a likely spot. It's the only location where he has full control of meeting up with her. His talking her into doing his will is not a factor. It's where she was always headed. He might even have gone to Makawao shortly after work.

Facebook posting proves nothing about where you are, especially if someone else agrees to log in for you and post. Especially posting shares and images with no written commentary. To reiterate what I spec'd in my long post, he could have set up the posting from after work time because he expected to be attacking her in the late afternoon.

We've always tended to look at that FB posting as if had something to do with setting up the timeline for the invented late evening trip to Keanae, but it didn't "work" in any meaningful way. Remember the FB posting, if pre-arranged, was set up before any variables were thrown into the timeline that possibly got in SC's way. Specifically, it would be great to know if he was aware of the dinner party for BS's birthday, which was for close family members. He would only have known if Charli had informed him. It was a Sunday evening and Charli worked early on Monday. He may have expected her to be home quite a bit earlier.

There's a "chunk" of his time (roughly 4-5 hours) that's not accounted for even on Facebook, other than his lame story about going out to Keanae with his truck, getting stuck, and hitching back. The whole time between his getting off work from Mana Foods at 3 PM and Charli leaving her sister's house, which are documented by people other than SC, are a complete mystery as far as I know, but please correct me. What was he doing? If the Facebook posting was real, than between 4:15 and 8:30 is still wide open.

 

[puakenikeni]

Man, where do we begin to sort these things out? First and foremost I wish I could go to court alongside the family and give them the "strength in numbers" support they need. My accountant used to say "hope is not a plan" so I am troubled to think the DA doesn't have any solid evidence tying him to her murder. There better be some solid testimony from that pool of witnesses.

I really have nothing to add to the conversation except every, single time I drive down Hana Hwy I rehash SCs alibi and it just doesn't make sense. His alibi is bs. Period.

That's a good line, that hope is not a plan. KS has posted on her public FB that one or more witnesses have withdrawn, citing issues with police treatment of them. But maybe their testimony was junk to begin with. I think she is so amazing, dealing with all this. She is urging people who know anything to come forward, still. As Peter Tosh has mentioned here, there is/was a circle of people around SC with misguided loyalty in deep denial (at best).

 

[puakenikeni]

New Trial March 14th.

What we know.

2/09

SC got off work early afternoon in Paia.

Charli was last seen 830 PM in Haiku at her sisters.

Her phone pinged in Keanae late

The dog was found the next day(or two?) in Naihiku clean as a whistle.

SC's FB page say's he posted last at 415PM.

So... discount everything else and start there.

Her car was found burnt in Haiku

Her clothes and jawbone were found in Keanae.

His story contradicts itself. Put no value in it. Its a distraction. They never went to Hana. No Broken down truck. There were no "Light tools". There is no anonymous FB poster.

Im so annoyed by so many of these distractions because it seems if you say something enough times it becomes true.

Indeed, we have seen over and over that statements get stuck in people's heads. The media articles on the case are especially prone to stating things as facts that were only ever stated by SC. Thanks for laying out the impartial facts again.

There is lots of value to SC's story, just not as a real alibi or a statement of truth.
It is a gift to have a murder defendant who unwisely said so much.
From a police standpoint, the interviews with MPD and with HNN can be used to discredit SC, so that's great, given they don't have the right to examine him at trial.

From a psychology standpoint, which is how I was looking at it above, the way to look at the story is not for its truth, but why SC told that story and not some other. It's not TRUE. Lies are told for a reason, often complex.

Some liars who alibi themselves try to stay close to truth. It adds conviction to the telling. Also the fewer false facts, the less chance of a witness to contradict.

Another liar might whip up an alibi that puts him far away from the crime, confident in the lack of witnesses.

Why did Steven tell that particular story with those details? If anyone could figure that out entirely, that's one avenue to figuring out truths of what he did, and why. We know what he did and why in broad strokes, but the deceased are still missing.

Questions I have relate to:
How much was sheer dumb thoughtless lying, if any.
How much was part of a plan to misdirect searchers and police, if any.
Did he have an original plan that was well thought out, that had to be tweaked on the fly due to circumstances? Did he forget to change any of his story to account for the tweaks? Did he not think out what no longer made sense?
Was he focused on self preservation above all, or did the compulsion to taunt his enemies lead him to act and speak foolishly?

 

[puakenikeni]

I always assumed his accompanying the family to Keanae to search was to protect his crime scene but it was more to keep them dangling.

In SC's "interview" with Malika (sp) he considered being setup or framed by someone and insinuated that the only people that didn't like him was the Scott family. So it's entirely possible his charade was for their benefit.

Why the new court date? Is there a link up yet?

So glad you brought that up, Nikki. I was thinking of that part of his interview too, but ran out of steam. That was an utterly bizarre conjecture on his part that reflected terribly upon him.

 

[puakenikeni]

First I thought he made a grave and shot or OD her and he's a coward and wouldn't want to touch her or have evidence. It's obvious the opposite though due to what we know about holes in skirt and jawbone. Couldn't been more hands on. Rage. Drove against her will once before and turned around. He fantasized about it. Arrogant SOB is proud what he did and wants credit for it more than to get away with it. Burn her 4runner for everyone to find at jaws know he helped her with it in past and precious stereo equipment and his rage thinks she wasn't greatful. So what message is he sending with that location and hate thinking where would he disrespect with final burial place? Have to find her and her baby.

Wow, that's a great point that his hateful emotions might drive where he put them. Ugh.
What is the deal with the stereo equipment? I remember him trying to negotiate on Facebook with KS that he would "help" if AG gave back some of SC's equipment, but I'm too far from the circle to know the story. Is that the same issue you are talking about?

 

[puakenikeni]

re question hgo asked about SC's phone pings. Nothing about his phone records has been released pre-trial. Most of what the police know has not been shared, other than the "big" revelation of the jawbone and what had to be said to argue against defense motions.

I'm very upset for the family that so many made arrangements and bought air tickets to come to the trial and it got changed again.

 

[puakenikeni]

Here's a current example of his fake alibi being stated by the media (Maui Now linking an early interview from six days after she disappeared) as if her driving out to help Steven is an actual fact known to Charli's family. Why is the reporter not clarifying that the family only got their belief from the defendant?

Family members say she drove out to the vicinity to help Capobianco, who reported to have car trouble.

http://mauinow.com/2016/01/15/state-v-capobianco-trial-set-to-start-on-march-14/?t=1452903056
Family members have no knowledge that she drove out there to help Steven. They had to repeat his story back then, when he was being treated super nicely so that he would "help" by sharing what he knew. Back then he was not an official suspect, but now he is a defendant. Any aspect of his story should have an "allegedly" tag on it from the media.

 

[puakenikeni]

OMG Noooo -- they just figured out the DNA wasn't viable?
I was away from news this weekend and didn't see this Saturday article explaining in great detail why the trial was rescheduled:
http://www.mauinews.com/page/conten...e-DNA-testing-delays-murder-trial.html?nav=10

More DNA testing delays murder trial

Prosecuter wants to ‘exhaust every avenue’ before trial begins in March

January 16, 2016

.......
(modsnip)

You've got to read the whole article on the argument over whether or not to give time for more DNA testing, two more tests. I quoted a small bit to stay within WS guidelines.

I am stunned that the DNA info came in from the lab almost two years after forensic testing began.
I am not shocked that the advanced tests are not done in Hawai'i, must be sent to Virginia.

 

[puakenikeni]

Man bun, really?

 

[Nikki Lisette]

^^^ What Run Da Surf said.

What's horrible about the whole situation is Charli was Steven's target no matter what. I realized he was bound and determined to hurt her and the baby, even after Joshua was born. Charli is forever 5 months pregnant but 5-6-7-8-9 months or 1 years old, I don't think it matter. He didn't want them around. Period.

#%&hole.

 

[PeterTosh]

The reason the FB post matters is because it contradicts his own alibi. It throws off his timeline. He is not driving to Keanae, having his truck break down, attempt to fix it and be successful at hitching a ride back to his street, up Ulumalu and back to Kalipo in that time. Im confused as to why a secret poster would be posting prearranged in order to contradict his alibi?

 

[PeterTosh]

Man bun, really?

Got to do what you got to do to survive Lock up!

 

[puakenikeni]

The reason the FB post matters is because it contradicts his own alibi. It throws off his timeline. He is not driving to Keanae, having his truck break down, attempt to fix it and be successful at hitching a ride back to his street, up Ulumalu and back to Kalipo in that time. Im confused as to why a secret poster would be posting prearranged in order to contradict his alibi?

That's a very good question, and I've read the part of your page where he evades answering your direct challenge of his timeline and evades addressing the Facebook.

OK, what I am pointing out is the Facebook posts were made by him or someone else hours before the murder. The plan at that time and the planned alibi might have been different. He first gives the truck alibi to anyone on Tuesday morning, no? A day and a half after the Facebook posting.

The trip to Keanae alibi and timeline is all problematic, and has contradictions. We also heard from B Scott that he changed the story to them. Something I noticed right away, just following the story on MauiWatch as it unfolded, was he didn't lay any groundwork like actually taking the truck out there to be seen. He apparently was seen in Pai'a in the truck at the wrong time, mentioned in the original defense motion. He didn't have the story worked out well. Yet it appears he had been planning to murder Charlie at least for the month of January.

So either he is pretty dumb not to work out his story, or he changed his plan, or variables forced him to change his plan (like maybe the party). He could not change the Facebook posting after the fact. Sure he could delete the posts later, but people would have seen them and likely remembered, and they might be cached.

What I would ask you is, why do you think he posted to Facebook for an hour or more and screwed up his alibi timeline? Can he not do math on how long it takes to get out there and hitch back? Was the murder not planned?

 

[puakenikeni]

Actually, I take that back about the Sunday afternoon posts. I guess it's been too long since I looked at them, and I remembered wrong. The Monday morning posts from 9:30 am to 11:00 am are the odd ones that don't seem like him, and that is the day after. Weren't there also posts Sunday night? Are some posts gone, or was the setting changed? I'm looking at the public posts now and don't see any from the night of the murder.

 

[puakenikeni]

Thanks to Peter Tosh's comments, I went over the Facebook posting that remains to be seen last night, and I couldn't come up with any theory on how it was planned to help his alibi (it doesn't), where I feel conviction. I'll just leave my posts up for anyone else to bounce off of.

 

[heartgoesout]

Maybe he was waiting for her thinking she'd be on her way home and wasted the time on Facebook. If I remember correctly there were deleted text messages between him and Charli.

 

[heartgoesout]

I actually laughed out loud with the man bun. He looks like a pretty little lady.
Just please no on the man bun. No one and I mean no one can pull that look off.

 

[heartgoesout]

So per the article, the current testing does not associate SC with the crime scene. ugh

 

[puakenikeni]

So per the article, the current testing does not associate SC with the crime scene. ugh

Yes, isn't that scary? Environmental degradation -- along Hana Highway in winter? Not a shocker. Am I reading rightly that the prosecution only got this bad news on Jan. 7th, 2016? This evidence was found almost two years ago. How long does it take to get DNA tests run?

 

[heartgoesout]

Page 45 on the second thread post 653 starts the skull painting discussion. If you play with in on your computer with tones and brightness etc...you can even see what appears to be Charli in white sunglasses which is a picture in front of the building they paint on.