GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #5

[Kapua]

Allegedly

Correction: SC was allegedly in Haiku between midnight and 2 AM on Feb. 9, 2014 allegedly selling ecstasy to Taylor Farner and her co-worker hours after he allegedly murdered his pregnant ex-girlfriend, Charli Scott.

 

[Tssiemer]

Pregnant allegedly ex-girlfriend?


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I had the allegedly before pregnant but we know she was pregnant.

 

[Mamamerced]

I'm again beginning to think it likely SC had an accomplice or two.....maybe not from start to finish but somewhere along the line. (But, if he had an acomplice, it's not likely he's a budding serial killer)

SC said Grandpa agreed he was home by 11:00+\- pm. Truth? Who knows.
SC met up with Taylor between midnight and 2 am. (to allegedly sell drugs and I've always suspected drugs were woven into this crime somehow.)
SC called or skyped Cass around 2 pm......from Kalipo?
I can't remember what time he went to work the next morning, but I believe it was early.
Where were the 4 Runners?

My head is spinning.

 

[puakenikeni]

I'm again beginning to think it likely SC had an accomplice or two.....maybe not from start to finish but somewhere along the line. (But, if he had an acomplice, it's not likely he's a budding serial killer)

SC said Grandpa agreed he was home by 11:00+\- pm. Truth? Who knows.
SC met up with Taylor between midnight and 2 am. (to allegedly sell drugs and I've always suspected drugs were woven into this crime somehow.)
SC called or skyped Cass around 2 pm......from Kalipo?
I can't remember what time he went to work the next morning, but I believe it was early.
Where were the 4 Runners?

My head is spinning.

lol, mine too. And there are too many trucks to keep track of!

There are serial killers who work in pairs. Dominants and submissives. The submissives may not be involved because they like killing, but because their life revolves around pleasing the dominant partner. I am not saying he there was such a pair in this crime, but maybe the prototype of such an evolution.

Another thing I'm thinking with this testimony that I leaned towards earlier and we discussed -- I don't think he did the dismemberment the same night (if he did it himself). There is just not enough time. I think he took her out there, murdered her, put her on the blanket and dragged her into a hiding place or even left her in her vehicle wrapped up in the blanket. Maybe he even thought to stage a serial killer attack, who knows.

But it didn't take long to realize she needed to disappear entirely or he always planned that and he went back. I am thinking Monday night. He has mentioned how MPD woke him up so early on Tuesday. He's a baker with his sleep pattern keyed to a 7-3 work shift, and he must wake up fairly early and take care of his dog before leaving too.

So maybe he was still asleep because he was out late on Monday and burning the candle at both ends had caught up to him.

 

[Kapua]

I'm again beginning to think it likely SC had an accomplice or two.....maybe not from start to finish but somewhere along the line. (But, if he had an acomplice, it's not likely he's a budding serial killer)

SC said Grandpa agreed he was home by 11:00+\- pm. Truth? Who knows.
SC met up with Taylor between midnight and 2 am. (to allegedly sell drugs and I've always suspected drugs were woven into this crime somehow.)
SC called or skyped Cass around 2 pm......from Kalipo?
I can't remember what time he went to work the next morning, but I believe it was early.
Where were the 4 Runners?

My head is spinning.

It's entirely possible that he was home at 11-something. But he allegedly left the house after that to meet up with Taylor, and do who knows what else? Can't wait to hear from the phone expert.

I too want to know where his main vehicle, the 4Runner with the 2000 watt stereo w/16 speakers and broken rear window was. And where he allegedly hid Charli's vehicle after the alleged crime.

I think he mentioned his regular starting time for work in one of the interviews, but I don't have time to look for that right now.

The alleged drug trafficking doesn't surprise me, either, because FTL had mentioned that he was allegedly a drug dealer waaaay back when. What surprises me is that he is, allegedly, cold-blooded enough to kill his pregnant ex-girlfriend and then carry on with his usual activities within 4 hours or so.

 

[PeterTosh]

lol, mine too. And there are too many trucks to keep track of!

There are serial killers who work in pairs. Dominants and submissives. The submissives may not be involved because they like killing, but because their life revolves around pleasing the dominant partner. I am not saying he there was such a pair in this crime, but maybe the prototype of such an evolution.

Another thing I'm thinking with this testimony that I leaned towards earlier and we discussed -- I don't think he did the dismemberment the same night (if he did it himself). There is just not enough time. I think he took her out there, murdered her, put her on the blanket and dragged her into a hiding place or even left her in her vehicle wrapped up in the blanket. Maybe he even thought to stage a serial killer attack, who knows.

But it didn't take long to realize she needed to disappear entirely or he always planned that and he went back. I am thinking Monday night. He has mentioned how MPD woke him up so early on Tuesday. He's a baker with his sleep pattern keyed to a 7-3 work shift, and he must wake up fairly early and take care of his dog before leaving too.

So maybe he was still asleep because he was out late on Monday and burning the candle at both ends had caught up to him.

Just how long does it take to chop up a body? How long was she able to resist before he got down to the brass tacks of butchering? I cant imagine more than an hour. Dump most of it in the Shark infested waters. Its not like he sits back and admires his work. He is probably traumatized as I can only imagine its more gruesome than we can imagine. One of those things where you need to finish something quick once you start. Like mercifully killing a animal that's still alive but hit by a car.

BTW... A surfer years ago was bitten by a nice Tiger Shark years ago there

 

[Mamamerced]

lol, mine too. And there are too many trucks to keep track of!

There are serial killers who work in pairs. Dominants and submissives. The submissives may not be involved because they like killing, but because their life revolves around pleasing the dominant partner. I am not saying he there was such a pair in this crime, but maybe the prototype of such an evolution.

Another thing I'm thinking with this testimony that I leaned towards earlier and we discussed -- I don't think he did the dismemberment the same night (if he did it himself). There is just not enough time. I think he took her out there, murdered her, put her on the blanket and dragged her into a hiding place or even left her in her vehicle wrapped up in the blanket. Maybe he even thought to stage a serial killer attack, who knows.

But it didn't take long to realize she needed to disappear entirely or he always planned that and he went back. I am thinking Monday night. He has mentioned how MPD woke him up so early on Tuesday. He's a baker with his sleep pattern keyed to a 7-3 work shift, and he must wake up fairly early and take care of his dog before leaving too.

So maybe he was still asleep because he was out late on Monday and burning the candle at both ends had caught up to him.

Agree the crime was possibly prolonged. Wouldn't there have been drag marks if he did pull her into the dense brush/jungle? If he left her in her car at Paraquats, then how did he get back to Haiku? In his 4 Runner? With an accomplice? And then, if/when he went back Mon. night to dispose of her body, how did he get his and her vehicles back? Accomplice?

 

[puakenikeni]

That's what makes narcissists different. The only time they get rattled is when something threatens them. What damage they do to others is of no real concern to them.

I remember that he works until 3, so I figure an 8 hour shift begins at 7. 7-3 shift is very common in Hawaii. If he works more than 8 hours, they are paying overtime and no one does that regularly. So 7 is my guess, but I also don't remember what he testified as to his start time, other than early. I'm pretty sure that MPD came around 6 AM or even 5:30, but he should normally be up by something like 5:30 if he has to commute to work on Maui roads and has a dog to feed and his vehicle isn't too reliable.

 

[Mamamerced]

Just how long does it take to chop up a body? How long was she able to resist before he got down to the brass tacks of butchering? I cant imagine more than an hour. Dump most of it in the Shark infested waters. Its not like he sits back and admires his work. He is probably traumatized as I can only imagine its more gruesome than we can imagine. One of those things where you need to finish something quick once you start. Like mercifully killing a animal that's still alive but hit by a car.

BTW... A surfer years ago was bitten by a nice Tiger Shark years ago there

If SC dismembered Charli and fed the body parts to the sharks, why would he also cut off identifiable parts and deflesh her jaw? Plus, that would take considerable more time. Trophies?....works for a (budding) serial killer theory. And someone took Nala to Nahiku which adds to the time factor. Do you really think he could do all that, alone, between 8:30 and 11:00? 2 1/2 hours for carnage, travel and clean-up?

 

[Tssiemer]

I think he dismembered and burned her hence the defleshed jaw


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[puakenikeni]

I think he dismembered and burned her hence the defleshed jaw


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burning is a good theory, but the jaw was not burned. It was defleshed with a serrated knife according to Loo, and it was hacked like possibly with a machete. There has never been any hint of scorching or charring mentioned re the remains that were found. What was not found ... Burning would account for that and so would sharks.

Re getting a heavy load to the beach (sharks), got the impression the beach was still a fair walk from the spot, but I don't know how far. Anyone? Her truck would not make it down all the way, do you think? His lifted truck got stuck there.

 

[Kapua]

From Thread #4 page 3, by Loio

"The trucks business: lol oh no, here we go again!

Charli's primary car, the SUV 4runner was left at Jaws and burned. We all know this.

Charli's parts 4runner - a salvage car used for parts was left upcountry with friends. It was towed to her family's place after she went missing and then STOLEN. At least that's what I followed on FB.

SC's 4runner, supposedly stuck overnight from Saturday Feb 8 to Sunday Feb 9th in Keanae. It was reported by the media that he was caught on camera driving this truck around Paia, Sunday Feb 9th in the afternoon before Charli went missing.

SC's new truck, a Ford something is not mentioned in the media. This is strictly insider info. He wanted the advance for this truck to get new mud tires.

Unidentified truck driven by SC in Hana is supposedly rumor. This was gossiped right after Charli went missing when emotions were high and as far as is known has not been substantiated."

For reference

 

[heartgoesout]

Very similar case. Tricia Todd's ex husband did this all in very little time. Took the daughter to the zoo early the next morning.

 

[puakenikeni]

If SC dismembered Charli and fed the body parts to the sharks, why would he also cut off identifiable parts and deflesh her jaw? Plus, that would take considerable more time. Trophies?....works for a (budding) serial killer theory. And someone took Nala to Nahiku which adds to the time factor. Do you really think he could do all that, alone, between 8:30 and 11:00? 2 1/2 hours for carnage, travel and clean-up?

This is what I think too. I wouldn't know about finishing off an animal. I hit a deer once and no way was I dealing with it. I could not do it, even though it had to be done ... By someone else! But I am not like these guys and I digress.

I do think it would take time, and Nala, and I don't assume she died quickly. He may have tortured her to punish her for not doing what he wanted and getting an abortion. Showed her who had control now. I'm sorry to say it, but I think he would. I think he is cold and sadistic when crossed.

Her phone pinged at 11, in that spot, remember. So assuming he did not make it ping on purpose, maybe that's when they arrived there. So he wouldn't have been home by 11, but he may have been home by midnight and allegedly had this meeting between midnight and 2.

I don't think he had the time to finish. His estimate of a 2 1/2 hour total trip was drive time plus a 15 minute repair at most, and the police didn't really dispute that amount of time would be needed for that, and the reality was much more, surely.

 

[heartgoesout]

Ok, taking away everything single last thing SC has said... which is hard because it's imbedded in my brain. I'm gonna throw out a scenario. Please feel free to correct anything that doesn't make sense. My head is spinning and I'm going with my thought right now.

Charli had no gas in her car and I don't think her intent was to go anywhere with Steven. I need help from locals on this. I think I finally have a vision of the area. I was surprised when I mapped KS West Kuiaha home to SC grandfather home on Kalipo Place and how close they were to each other. Really close actually, right? I feel maybe she agreed to meet him near his house to talk, maybe at a park or just simply in her car. But then again, she was tired, pregnant and it wasn't really the "right" time on a Sunday night after a party to have a long sit down talk about the baby. We don't know what their texts said. Don't beat me up over this because it changes nothing, but maybe she went to get drugs from him for a friend. She could swing by quick, get whatever and head home. Not much gas needed. No long night, no drive down Hana, no reason to tell her family. Or maybe he asked her to swing by to borrow the Twilight DVD. Maybe, maybe maybe. But now I don't believe he ever told her his car was stuck. He made that up from memory from the past with Taylor as we heard today.

If she left West Kaiaha Rd and he walked through the back of his property through the woods and had her pick him up back there or met him there, she wouldn't need that much gas.
He could have have killed her there, hid her truck in the woods/jungle and then drove up Hana in the borrowed truck. How did he get her down Hana then? As we've said driving would be very very risky.

Or she could have gotten in the borrowed truck with him and they both went down Hana. Her car parked on some back road after meeting him around his house. 1000 scenarios on what he would have told her to get her to go. He convinces her to go down the path, again 1000 scenarios on how, and killed her there. I feel like it kinda makes sense that he could have told her he wanted to be with her again and said it was a date to hang out, maybe hook up and told her he found a romantic spot so bring a blanket and a movie, the Twilight DVD, because they were going to watch the movie. He kills her on the path. (Phone ping) And disposes of her right then and there, : ( but it's dark and he unknowingly leaves items behind. That really makes sense in my head...right this second.
In this scenario, her car is back by his house and still, with very little gas needed, he later drives it to the coincidently super close Jaws and burns it.

Sigh. My heart goes out to her family and friends. This is a nightmare.

 

[heartgoesout]

"plus a 15 minute repair at most"...
Pua, I can't get his story out of my head either, but I 100% believe he did not touch a truck, any truck, to fix that night. There was no repair. Lies, all lies made up from previous memories with Taylor.

 

[Tssiemer]

Very similar case. Tricia Todd's ex husband did this all in very little time. Took the daughter to the zoo early the next morning.

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Good point!


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[Mamamerced]

From Thread #4 page 3, by Loio

"The trucks business: lol oh no, here we go again!

Charli's primary car, the SUV 4runner was left at Jaws and burned. We all know this.

Charli's parts 4runner - a salvage car used for parts was left upcountry with friends. It was towed to her family's place after she went missing and then STOLEN. At least that's what I followed on FB.

SC's 4runner, supposedly stuck overnight from Saturday Feb 8 to Sunday Feb 9th in Keanae. It was reported by the media that he was caught on camera driving this truck around Paia, Sunday Feb 9th in the afternoon before Charli went missing.

SC's new truck, a Ford something is not mentioned in the media. This is strictly insider info. He wanted the advance for this truck to get new mud tires.

Unidentified truck driven by SC in Hana is supposedly rumor. This was gossiped right after Charli went missing when emotions were high and as far as is known has not been substantiated."

For reference

Thanks, Kapua. Wish Loio were still on here with us to answer questions. Which "truck" was detailed Mon, Feb 10? The 4 Runner? Presumably he had the new Ford truck before Charli was murdered, as he took the loan before then, no?

 

[Tssiemer]

When they found her burning car did it say how much gas was in the tank?


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[heartgoesout]

Had Steven Todd on camera footage walking back from the crime. Amazing what he did in such little time. They found Tricia's teeth in the canal and other parts in a buried bucket of acid. All within feet of each other. A small powered saw was also found in the canal.

Why? I'm so disheartened. Why are people so awful?