GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #6

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Taylor Farner is SC's ex. She was after Charli but before Cassie. They met through SC's cousin (Danielle?). Taylor was Danielle's best friend when they were juniors at Lahainaluna high school.

Taylor's testimony is important because she texted him repeatedly the night of Feb. 9.

Thank you! I was just wondering why she text him over 90 times! I wonder if she had any idea what he was about to do? :thinking:
 
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Now, regarding the fingernails with flesh attached found at the scene, she states that decomposition is hastened in Hawaii and out Hana Hwy especially due to 1) high temperatures (around 80 F or above) 2) high humidity 3) high rainfall. The combination of warmth and moisture hastens decomposition in a big way including the process called skin slippage, in which the skin quickly thins and starts to literally slip away. This would have happened to Charli’s fingernails within about 3 days in such an environment and she stated that if they brushed against the ground or branches, they would simply come right off i.e. when someone moved/dragged her body. So much for the theory that Steven hacked her fingertips off with a machete! I believe it’s likely that Steven dragged Charli’s body away & removed it on Wednesday because her body being there for several days would account for her fingernails coming off…and Thursday he was bleaching his truck and that’s also the day that Phaedra, Molly, & Max went there & found maggot infested items.


So, going back to the jawbone…Here is my new theory based on all the new forensic information:

Referencing the pic of Steven where he’s covering his mouth in horror while apparently looking at pics of Charli’s remains in the courtroom, he is holding his mouth with his left hand, and in his right hand is a pen. This leads me to believe that, like most people, SC is right-handed.

How would a right-handed person stab the right side of someone’s jaw? Awkward. It would be much more natural to stab the person’s left side with your right hand…but he didn’t. Also note the direction of incision-marks on the right jaw: they are slanted up toward her nose, NOT up in the opposite direction toward her ear. This leads me to believe that Steven was behind Charli, perhaps pulling her hair, as he plunged the knife into her lower right cheek, jaw, and neck with his dominant right hand. I find it likely that he was standing behind her when he inflicted those marks on the bone because they ALL slant upward and outward toward her nose. He either had her standing or had her stomach-down on the ground, while he was behind her, striking violently and repeatedly into her neck/jaw area with a knife.

Harle also discussed the two blunt-trauma fractures which broke the lower jawbone - 1 fracture occurred in the front and 1 in the back, splitting the lower jaw into two separate pieces. These were caused by very heavy blunt striking (to the chin?), like with a heavy pipe, sledgehammer, or fall on hard ground, etc. As Ho’oponopono mentioned, the prosecution asked “What about a stomp?” and she said “yes.”

I suggest that this fracturing of the lower jaw would have come about with Steven behind her, taking her hair and back of head, and smashing her face repeatedly on something hard: on the ground, on a rock, on part of the truck. It seems likely to me that it would have been a part of the same overall attack that produced the knife wounds in the exact same region. This impact would have fractured her jaw and her palette, producing the small palette bone that was found. The rapid decomposition/skin slippage that was responsible for her fingernails falling off would have also been responsible for her lower jaw coming apart when he moved the body days later, leaving the lower jawbone and small piece of palette bone - and of course the fingernails - behind, unbeknownst to him if he was in a big hurry. So he need not have taken a machete or axe and dismembered her; it may simply be that due to her injuries & decomposition, these bones fell away from the body during movement. This is my own theory. Flesh, fat, muscle, and fascia would have been loosened or cut away on the part of the jawbone that received the stabs during the attack, and rapid decomposition in the jungle would have denuded the area, and caused skin slippage/loosening. I don’t believe a deliberate “defleshing” occurred. We know that Steven moves very fast. He would not have sat there in the brush scraping flesh off some bone.

Just my 2 cents. - Mox



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Thanks for this detailed and well thought out theory, Moxie! I agree, it just feels right and explains so much!
 
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I need to notify I mod to delete all the timelines I did except the last one which is the most up to date. How do I go about that?

Send a PM to Cold Pizza.
 
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Ms. Gagne is testifying about SC's hours between Feb 3 - Feb 16, 2014. Wednesday and Thursday were his days off - the 12th and the 13th.

Sunday 9: 6:53 in, 12:00 out, 12:30 in, 3:52 out
Monday 10: 6:56 in ,10:41 out, 11:13 in, 3:21 out
Tuesday 11: 6:57 in, 9:32 out, 10:00 in, 1:06out, 1:31 in 2:53 out
Wednesday and Thursday out.
Friday 14: 6:59 in, 7:02 out
Saturday 15 and Sunday 16 out.

Friday did he work all day until 7:02 pm or leave at 7:02 am right after getting there/
 
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Friday did he work all day until 7:02 pm or leave at 7:02 am right after getting there/

I think she said he left more or less straight away after he clocked in.
 
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Trial still offline for me.....since lunch.
Is anyone else watching it?
 
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Maisiebelle, if you haven't already, in the media and timeline thread the last post #68, is the most accurate timeline of events with tidbits of testimony. It's a quicker read than going through 6 threads.

I've asked for all but that #68 timeline post to be deleted so not to be overwhelming, as I tried to add new info each day to it as we learned it.
 
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Maisiebelle, if you haven't already, in the media and timeline thread the last post #68, is the most accurate timeline of events with tidbits of testimony. It's a quicker read than going through 6 threads.

I've asked for all but that #68 timeline post to be deleted so not to be overwhelming, as I tried to add new info each day to it as we learned it.

That makes a huge difference! Ive been trying to watch the trial but it isnt always streaming and I think ive missed quite a bit.
 
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You can write a list of questions and PM me if you'd like to help you catch up.
 
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There's another live stream court segment up for today. Evidence Specialist Anthony Earles is on the stand, testifying as to the hairs that were found on the gray hooded jacket. Many were dog hairs.
 
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Mamamerced: SA Easter mentioned that the phone pinged out on the east side feb 1, 9, 10, 11 and 12 but I don't recall seeing the map and call log table on the screen, nor hearing the testimony for the 12th.
 
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Mamamerced: SA Easter mentioned that the phone pinged out on the east side feb 1, 9, 10, 11 and 12 but I don't recall seeing the map and call log table on the screen, nor hearing the testimony for the 12th.

Thank you for answering my question. I couldn't remember if Easter said the 12th or not and can't bear to rewatch the testimonies. ✌
 
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Today's testimony from Evidence Specialist Earles involved identifying and submitting items of evidence. I found it pretty boring, but I am very intrigued by the way that Mr. Earles obtained fibers and hairs by placing tape on the items of evidence. And it was great to not hear Apo object much today. I haven't finished listening to all of it yet.

Question of the day: Can dog hairs be traced through DNA to a particular dog in the same manner that human hairs can be traced to a particular person? I am off to Google...
 
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Well, most of what I found was how to determine what breed your mutt is through canine DNA testing. So I will wait to hear what the experts have to say. Interesting that they found so many dog hairs on the jacket. I hope they can link those dog hairs to SC's dog Chunk.
 
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Today's testimony from Evidence Specialist Earles involved identifying and submitting items of evidence. I found it pretty boring, but I am very intrigued by the way that Mr. Earles obtained fibers and hairs by placing tape on the items of evidence. And it was great to not hear Apo object much today. I haven't finished listening to all of it yet.

Question of the day: Can dog hairs be traced through DNA to a particular dog in the same manner that human hairs can be traced to a particular person? I am off to Google...

Great question, I think the answer is yes! I have yet to watch all of todays testimony, but it's great that the two dogs in question are still alive for comparison
 
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