Holly Bobo found deceased, discussion thread *Arrests* #7

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Mark Pearcy got sentenced for the weapons charge. At least I think this is new.
http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/news/2015/08/12/briefs-attempted-murder-suspects-surrender/31516343/

:seeya: :tyou: Dogface, for the update!

Snippet from the above link:

Pearcy has served nearly 15 months since he was taken into custody in June 2014.

He will serve another 12 months in custody.



Just a thought ... but is it possible MP will be out of :jail: when this case goes to trial?

JMO but I think it will be at least a year, or a year and a half, before this case even gets to trial :gaah:

Again JMO but I do believe that there is some sort of "video" ...
 
  • #543
In all the time following this case I hadn't realized the significance of the coon hunt in so far as it sadly sounds like where Holly was noticed was targeted for abduction.
 
  • #544
But how did they figure out who she was and where she lived?
 
  • #545
But how did they figure out who she was and where she lived?

I really don't think that would have been difficult. She was an unusually pretty girl, certainly known by many of the locals. In small towns, everyone knows everyone else.
 
  • #546
But how did they figure out who she was and where she lived?

In rural areas everyone pretty much knows everyone and where they live. For instance, I live in a rural area, I've been surprised several times that someone knows where I live. (Having not grown up rural it still shocks me what people know) This is especially so if your home is one that stands out in some way. I live in a cabin home and in my area most homes are brick or siding. So my home stands out to the locals of the area. I'm not saying there is anything that stands out about the Bobo home, but it could be a reason why they knew. Also we live in a digital age where Google is our friend. It's not too hard to find an address and use a map or GPS to locate the address.
 
  • #547
But how did they figure out who she was and where she lived?

Also, her mother taught one the arrested suspects in elementary school. I can't recall which one.
 
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Hearing to set trial date cancelled...

The judge in the Holly Bobo murder case has cancelled the hearing which was originally set for August 26.

According to News Channel 5 it could take 6 months to reschedule the hearing. The delay is apparently due to the the states request for the death penalty.

http://www.scrippsmedia.com/newscha...eled-In-Holly-Bobo-Murder-Case-322456862.html

This article states that the judge took it upon himself to delay the scheduling hearing because the defense has not had time to file motions for themselves.......this seems a bit odd to me.

What will seem odder is if Herbison (Autry's attorney) doesn't quickly file a motion to get the trial moving if he hasn't seen any evidence yet that would lead to his client being charged let alone convicted at a trial......If I was a defense attorney in such a high profile case with no evidence against my client I would want to be in court looking like a superstar as quickly as possible.

The defense asking for a delay because they are to busy looking at evidence to file motions makes much more sense to me,which leads me to this question......Can the defense ask a judge for a delay in this type of a hearing without filing an official motion?
 
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The defense asking for a delay because they are to busy looking at evidence to file motions makes much more sense to me,which leads me to this question......Can the defense ask a judge for a delay in this type of a hearing without filing an official motion?



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I may be totally wrong with my comment. If so, someone please correct me. I think that when either the prosecution or defense attorneys talk to a judge, both sides have to be in the meeting. I don't think the defense attorneys can ask for anything that is not included in an official motion. This type thing would have to be part of the official trial record.
 
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I may be totally wrong with my comment. If so, someone please correct me. I think that when either the prosecution or defense attorneys talk to a judge, both sides have to be in the meeting. I don't think the defense attorneys can ask for anything that is not included in an official motion. This type thing would have to be part of the official trial record.

This is exactly what I was thinking.........but the judge deciding on his own to delay seems so odd to me.I was thinking there has to be another explanation.

Possibly miss-reporting or maybe the judge just wanted to go fishing with his buddies on that date ?????
 
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Does anybody know if any of the defense attorneys are death penalty qualified?? Do they need to have that type of qualification in TN???? TIA
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They need to be able to consult attorneys with death penalty experience however the public defenders office provides or arranges for them to come on board if needed.

Ridiculous in this case as it's just another example of trying to get the accused to confess-which they are never going to do-or simply scare them with the death penalty so they will deal. Attorney John Herbison-a folk hero to so many here-has the experience in the death penalty scoffed( or laughed) at the suggestion in his interview.

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First off Decatur County has around 20,000 residents with that growing during the summer with A1a workers and so on. Like all of Tennessee there are more women than men so that leaves around 10,500 women or so in the county. The census shows that 2,000 are under the age of 30. I would say that easily a quarter of that number is attractive enough to get noticed. So, now in Decatur county, you have almost 500 pretty girls.

Perhaps people can lay off the 'she is so pretty that everyone knew her' garbage along with the never ending drone that Parsons is a small town like Mayberry, North Carolina in which everyone knows the movement of everyone else-especially the only pretty girl in the entire county.

No disrespect but the victim was extremely short and thin with bleached blond hair. She belongs in the 500 for sure but no different from any other girl in the county.

The discovery process is now in it's 14th month with no end in site.

You don't need much experience in these cases to see that the forensics evidence is weak or non existent because if it was definite then this process would have been over long ago.
 
  • #555
I wouldn't call Holly unusually pretty. She's just an averagely pretty girl
 
  • #556
I wouldn't call Holly unusually pretty. She's just an averagely pretty girl

That made me literally laugh out loud. Thanks. Averagely pretty. Nice coinage of a phrase.
 
  • #557
Does anybody know if any of the defense attorneys are death penalty qualified?? Do they need to have that type of qualification in TN????

I don't know if they are.

But yes, there are strict requirements in TN to have capital defendants represented by one or more attorneys who are considered to meet the specific qualifications for such a job, as specified by the TN Supreme Court. If the attorneys they already had were not so qualified, then they would likely remedy that by making an addition to the defense team (rather than replacing them entirely), and it would add a considerable delay to the process as the new counsel would have to be given plenty of time to get up to speed on the case and its particulars.
 
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there are strict requirements in TN to have capital defendants represented

I agree however a recent decision by the state's supreme court muddied the water again-so I'm told. In this case the keystone cops method of prosecuting-we are on our 4th prosecutor-has reparations that coincided with the court decision-so I'm told. The expert that I asked said loopholes allow the defense to continue to reevaluate(in the legal sense) the case after one prosecutor quits and another signs on.

That sounds redundant and stupid but in a way it makes sense. The power struggle at the state over this mess has reached proportions that remind me of Bolder. A prosecutor quits a case that has been flubbed at the local, state and federal level since the original 911 call because of 'work related stress'. I don't know how all this fits together except getting anyone to talk about all the delays is worse than pulling teeth-because everyone runs before you can get the pliers out.

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Remember the Chandra Levy case when her remains were found off a jogging trail? Well, the news media short stroked it-to no ones surprise-and teams scoured the location to make the recovery. Once the scene was cleared and reopened a researcher and journalist went back and dug up all kinds of forensic evidence-long leg bone just being one of many.

Remember the victims body was never found-just remains. And after all this time the evidence still has not been placed in discovery for the defense team.

Why?

After the discovery and recovery of the remains-another prosecutor quits.

Why?

This information is coming from a retired FBI man who has written about 5 books on criminal prosecution-white collar crime- and is a family friend.

I am in no way knocking the local authorities, the TBI or the DA's office-I have no beef with any of them and these things happen. I just want to know why this is in the never ending purgatory that shelters it.
 
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They need to be able to consult attorneys with death penalty experience however the public defenders office provides or arranges for them to come on board if needed.

Ridiculous in this case as it's just another example of trying to get the accused to confess-which they are never going to do-or simply scare them with the death penalty so they will deal. Attorney John Herbison-a folk hero to so many here-has the experience in the death penalty scoffed( or laughed) at the suggestion in his interview.

I have begun to get somewhat infuriated at the insidious attitude of some here. If you don't know anything about this area, or it's people, then refrain from making sexist and insulting comments.

First off Decatur County has around 20,000 residents with that growing during the summer with A1a workers and so on. Like all of Tennessee there are more women than men so that leaves around 10,500 women or so in the county. The census shows that 2,000 are under the age of 30. I would say that easily a quarter of that number is attractive enough to get noticed. So, now in Decatur county, you have almost 500 pretty girls.

Perhaps people can lay off the 'she is so pretty that everyone knew her' garbage along with the never ending drone that Parsons is a small town like Mayberry, North Carolina in which everyone knows the movement of everyone else-especially the only pretty girl in the entire county.

No disrespect but the victim was extremely short and thin with bleached blond hair. She belongs in the 500 for sure but no different from any other girl in the county.

The discovery process is now in it's 14th month with no end in site.

You don't need much experience in these cases to see that the forensics evidence is weak or non existent because if it was definite then this process would have been over long ago.

And how do you know the evidence is weak? Every death penalty case I have ever read about or watched the trial took several years to come to trial after an arrest had been made. Name me a death penalty case that went to trial in months of the arrest? Example of a DP trial: Travis Alexander from Arizona was murdered by Arias in 2008. She was arrested for his murder approximately a month later in July, 2008 and it did not go to trial until 2013 iirc and the sentencing was completed in 2014 or it may have been 2015. Guy Heinz Jr. in Georgia who murdered 8 family members in 2009 did not go to trial until 2013. Both of those defendants were found guilty BARD based on an overwhelming amount of evidence. And I could list case after case that were death penalty cases that took from 3-4 years and even longer to come to trial. Every one that I can remember the defendant was found guilty and many of them given death at sentencing. So I don't agree with your assumption when you say it would have been over a long time ago. It wouldn't. In fact it is a known fact that death penalty cases take much longer to come to trial. Additional discovery will continue to come in as it always does. In the Cesar Lauren murder trial the forensic results for the murder weapon he used didn't come back until 17 days before his trial began.

Maybe it would behoove you if you asked the folk hero you say you know how a death penalty case works and how long it usually takes before they go to trial. Surely a defense attorney would never lie about such a thing (LOL) when even the common layperson right here at WS knows that DP cases don't go to trial lightning fast. They all drag on for years. And its for sure neither of these defendants upon arrest demanded a speedy trial which is their constitutional right to do so of course. Many death penalty cases are long and laborious because of more hearings and motions to delay....delay. Most of the delays I have seen come from the defense side. They are hoping the potential jury pool will forget the heinousness that was done to Holly Bobo by these three but it wont happen. It never does but they delay hoping to get a different result I suppose. The TBI has said publicly that this was the most high profile case they have ever had in TN.

And the other death penalty cases did not have a DA who wasn't reelected like this case nor did they have a newly elected DA who got into a tiff with a state police agency and recused themselves which led to another ADA being assigned to the case. The defense actually likes all of these delays. It means the case has to start over each time. Its a lot better in jail than a maximum secure prison or on death row and the defendants and lawyers know it.

I find your remarks about the murder victim very snarky and condescending. All I see is someone determined to put Holly down, even in death, in such a trivial way by demeaning her looks. I tell you what, I really don't care what your opinion of Holly's looks are ...so have at the mean spirited putdown of a young woman who was brutally murdered. It must make you feel better to do this immature and childish putdown is all I can figure out. Personally it reeks of pettiness and jealousy of a murdered young woman, imo.

However; you do not determine what beauty is or is not for anyone else here. So perhaps, you can 'layoff' (your language..not mine) telling others what to do and how we are to think of Holly's looks. Pleeze....of course you meant to disrespect her and you chose to do so. You could have said nothing mean spirited against Holly but you couldn't hold it back, imo. Strange. Very strange.

I, for one, found her very beautiful with gorgeous deep blue eyes and silky skin. She had a wholesomeness about her. She looked friendly and kind. I do not find her thin... which I suppose you are implying skinny... since the entire description you have given seems to be nothing but derogatory comments about her. She had a very nice figure and was petite. No, she wasn't as tall as a giraffe but neither are millions of other beautiful petite girls and women in our county.

I usually get very sad when a poster purposefully tries to be mean spirited toward a murder victim but in this particular instance I feel anger this time because in the end the truth is SHE WAS THE ONE these creatures selected to be beaten, repeatedly raped, murdered and thrown away like trash. I do believe they targeted Holly because of her beauty and because she was someone that wouldn't have ever given them the time a day IF she had had a choice in the matter.

And there isn't one piece of evidence to support your assumption they asked for the death penalty only to get them to confess. Bull. There is no evidence the DA has even talked to any of these perverted.... twisted... depraved...evil meth heads about confessing. That sounds just like something a defense attorney would say trying to dismiss the weight of a death penalty case. I have read nothing that has shown me the DA has even considered a plea deal with any of the three POSs that are going to trial. Do you have a link I have missed?
 
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"Excellent Post, Oceanblueeyes"!!! :gthanks:
 
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