Houston- Adult, child injured in shooting at Joel Osteen’s Lakewood church

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The shooter who entered Lakewood Church on Sunday with a long rifle and child in tow has been identified as Genesse Ivonne Moreno, according to multiple sources.
The 36-year-old previously identified as Jeffrey Escalante and had prior arrests for assault, forgery, marijuana possession, theft, evading and unlawful carrying of a weapon, according to KHOU's Jeremy Rogalski. Accoring to a Texas Department of Public Safety records search, her criminal report dates back to 2005.
Now Im really curious if this was her child. If not, where did she get him?
 
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Dbm
 
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KTRK Houston giving update.
 
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Per presser
No risk of chemical exposure as they tested benign.
7 yr. old in critical condition. Shot in the head
FBI has been assisting since the shooting.
Still collecting info/facts.
Sounds like the shooter confronted a security guard who let her into the building. (if I heard that correctly)
AR15 Palestine sticker on the butt stock
Another weapon in the bag which was not used.
Did find some anti-Semitic writings
Documented MH, and dispute with ex and his family who are Jewish
Shooter has prev. used several alias' but I think she is a she. IYKWIM
 
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Well it was her child. Its confusing. What I read it seemed it was a male who transgendered. But guess I read wrong. She should have known she was taking that child into a dangerous situation. How on earth could she do that?
 
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Well it was her child. Its confusing. What I read it seemed it was a male who transgendered. But guess I read wrong. She should have known she was taking that child into a dangerous situation. How on earth could she do that?
I think once MSM found her prior male alias' they connected dots but it appears the shooter has always been a woman.

Officers are still investigating how she obtained weapons with MH history, criminal background
 
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Well it was her child. Its confusing. What I read it seemed it was a male who transgendered. But guess I read wrong. She should have known she was taking that child into a dangerous situation. How on earth could she do that?
Because she had (untreated, clearly) serious mental health issues and murder in mind and didn't give a rip about the child or anyone else.
 
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That poor child. CPS investigated the shooter 4 times. Twice it was determined he was harmed. Tough article to read, including information about the other parent. IMO
 
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I think once MSM found her prior male alias' they connected dots but it appears the shooter has always been a woman.

Officers are still investigating how she obtained weapons with MH history, criminal background
Saying transgender is just reckless misinformation to stir up controversy
 
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Saying transgender is just reckless misinformation to stir up controversy
Also 'gunwoman' is the most bizarre description ive ever heard (shooter?) Almost like the journo hoped the shooter was born male and they could call them the 'gunman' . Then did a find and replace. Pathetic.
 
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Also 'gunwoman' is the most bizarre description ive ever heard (shooter?) Almost like the journo hoped the shooter was born male and they could call them the 'gunman' . Then did a find and replace. Pathetic.
I can see the accident, statistically majority of the time is once specific kind of person, for a woman it's rare
 
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There were armed police officers on duty inside the church at the time of shooting. Is that standard practice?
No, but most church buildings don't hold as many people. A Megachurch is about the size of a convention center and this one has more expensive A/V equipment than a typical neighborhood church. And most churches can't compare to the amount of fundraising a megachurch can bring so having more cash on site would require security.

Was the church a "gun-free" zone? I don't find any reports of civilians with guns assisting the security guards.

Also, why are news outlets highlighting a trench coat? I don't understand why that matters.

Every "news" source that concluded the shooter was trans have shown they can't be trusted.
 
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No, but most church buildings don't hold as many people. A Megachurch is about the size of a convention center and this one has more expensive A/V equipment than a typical neighborhood church. And most churches can't compare to the amount of fundraising a megachurch can bring so having more cash on site would require security.

Was the church a "gun-free" zone? I don't find any reports of civilians with guns assisting the security guards.

Also, why are news outlets highlighting a trench coat? I don't understand why that matters.

Every "news" source that concluded the shooter was trans have shown they can't be trusted.
I think the shooter may have worn the trench coat to conceal the rifle. Otherwise she would have been spotted immediately.
 
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So sorry for that innocent child who may pass away . :(

Thankful no one else in the church was hurt, although I'm sure they were terribly shaken up !
Like a soft target .. as church members are mostly facing front and away from the entrance (front) doors, so if there's danger their backs are turned away from it.
Omo.
 
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Well it was her child. Its confusing. What I read it seemed it was a male who transgendered. But guess I read wrong. She should have known she was taking that child into a dangerous situation. How on earth could she do that?
Like, who's going to shoot a woman who has a young child with her, even in self-defense? (snark)

The RWNJ press (OANN, Newsmax, certain "Christian" YouTubers, etc.) is having a field day with the suspect being a native of El Salvador and possibly AMAB.
 
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Like, who's going to shoot a woman who has a young child with her, even in self-defense? (snark)

The RWNJ press (OANN, Newsmax, certain "Christian" YouTubers, etc.) is having a field day with the suspect being a native of El Salvador and possibly AMAB.
What’s AMAB Mean?
 
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