How Did LE Clear BD?

[Quiche]

Well, she sure interests me! :hoppingmad:

 

[belimom]

Just noting for reference that neither of the two articles had a quote from LE.

We don't know in the KTAB article if the "ruled out" phrase was the reporter's or LE's.

The KTXS article simply said that LE had said she wasn't a POI.

I agree, BeanE. I wonder if they were asked if she were a POI and the answer was something like, "Not at this point." It could then have been taken to mean "not any longer", when it could very well mean "not yet"...

MOO

 

[dog.gone.cute]

If she is not a POI or a suspect, I'd be shocked.

Honestly though, PK jumped on the gun and announced to the media that SA was a suspect. I don't think LE wanted that out.

In other cases, LE doesn't even announce it anymore. Terri Horman, for instance, was never declared a POI or suspect, but we know who LE is suspicious of.

Perhaps BD is not a POI but is a suspect. A case of "ruling" her out as a POI right?

I don't think they want to publically name her as either as she keeps putting herself in the media and putting her foot in her mouth.

BBM -- I agree that in many cases, LE does not state who is and who is not a suspect, until they have it totally nailed down. :banghead:

I "think" one possible reason for Kampfer's comment is that LE knows she is in constant contact with Shawn, and like you said she keeps "putting her foot in her mouth" and they are hoping for a major slip-up by BD.

My opinion only ... I believe that Billie is a suspect, but has not been named publicly yet, for obvious reasons.

 

[Velouria]

I don't think they want to publically name her as either as she keeps putting herself in the media and putting her foot in her mouth.

Unfortunately I think that's one trait BD and PK seem to share...:footinmouth::footinmouth:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Just noting for reference that neither of the two articles had a quote from LE.

We don't know in the KTAB article if the "ruled out" phrase was the reporter's or LE's.

The KTXS article simply said that LE had said she wasn't a POI.

BBM:

I agree that this is a possibility, but ...

I am wondering if the "ruled out" phrase was said by LE, and it was intentional ? To throw things off because of Billie's contact with Shawn ?? :waitasec:

I just cannot believe that Billie is not a "POI" or a "suspect" ... or :behindbar

 

[Caligram]

BD has supported SA, she allowed him to move into her house too soon after ejecting CA, and knew that HD was afraid of him. I would not be surprised if the big blowout that happened around Christmas time was that HD wanted to move out, and BD became enraged. No way was she going to pay child support to CD for HD. No way was she going to lose whatever benefits she was getting from HD living with her. Maybe, there was no way that HD was going to "walk out" of her mother's house. HD didn't matter enough to BD. LE saw from the get-go that BD's person of interest was more about SA.

This is IMO

 

[For The Kids]

Although i think Shawn is involved..to me Billie acts more guilty than Shawn does and In my opinion seems to be the one pulling most of the strings at the moment.

 

[hollyblue]

I respect everyone's opinion and I know that my opinion is not the popular one with this case but when has "ruled out" ever equaled suspect? They have ruled her out. I'm not saying she's perfect but I take that as they have ruled her out in being involved in the disappearance of her daughter. JMO

I can't understand how they can rule her out as a POI...unless they can absolutely rule out nothing happened to HD Sunday night between 9PM and the next morning? No reputable sightings of her after Sunday.

This was also the first night she was to sleep in her room since getting the new TV.

 

[CN2Souls]

Smoke and Mirrors...:juggle:

 

[passionflower]

Will we see a child endangerment charge on BD soon?
Having her cildren around people she knew smoked allot of pot?
Drug selling, drugs in the house? admitting to buying drugs?
Did she leave her children alone allot while working 2 jobs?
No babysitters, before CD ever moved close.
Will we see drug arrests like in Haleigh Cummings case before we find Hailey???

 

[curiousc]

Although i think Shawn is involved..to me Billie acts more guilty than Shawn does and In my opinion seems to be the one pulling most of the strings at the moment.

I do agree with you. Perhaps in the end I will be wrong, but I think really that SA was the coverup person.

 

[crimejunkie]

1. There is no clear or compelling information (at least released by LE) regarding WHEN Hailey actually went missing...Sunday? Monday? Tuesday? LE maintains they have no credible sightings of HD on Monday, despite what BD keeps releasing to the media. No one has come forward stating they spoke with her on Monday outside of the main suspect, etc...When you have no clear time or date of a disappearance and no physical evidence of a crime, how are you able to rule anyone out?

2. BD failed a poly (as did SA and BD's brother) and she has not taken a new one as of Monday during her radio interview (according to BD). I know that BD has an "excuse" for failing due to finding out SA failed just prior to her taking her test. However, her theory of why she failed is just a theory. It cannot be proved by anyone, including LE or BD and imo cannot be grounds for ruling anyone out. IF LE ruled people out based on their theories of why they failed a LTD, we'd have a lot of unsolved cases and a lot of guilty people walking around.

3. Though BD worked during certain times on Monday and Tuesday, without a clear time/day that Hailey went missing, the alibi of being at work is mute. It will only serve as an alibi, IF it's proven that Hailey went missing during BD's work hours and that, we can't be sure of at this point based on what WE know. Plus, her work schedule does not clear up any involvement after the fact in a cover up, clean up, accessory after the fact, regarding moving the body, etc....

4. LE has stated that there are inconsistent statements by BD and SA, and we have certainly documented (and questioned) many of those inconsistencies from BD that have come out in MSM and the affidavits. If you do not have consistency in your statements to LE....imo, the information you provided would not be able to be confirmed.

To me, these points add up to either:

1. She has been ruled out as a POI, because she has been upgraded to a "suspect" and like LE stated, they are not willing to "tip their hat" to that information

2. LE wants to make *someone* believe that BD is not suspected (imo to keep loose lips flowing and to make everyone a little more comfortable to talk freely amongst each other and to the media)

3. LE has ruled BD out in the "disappearance," (as quoted in MSM), but not in any involvement after the fact

I strongly believe that BD falls into one of the three categories above, because of all of the above points (that cannot be answered away or set aside) would prevent them from "clearing" her entirely.

To me, there is no way (if LE is doing a proper job in the investigation and I believe they are) they could "clear" ANYONE of anything based on the lack of clear evidence regarding when HD actually disappeared. I believe that based on the information LE has (and we don't) electronic data--text msgs, call records, pings, etc, sworn statements, "possible" wire tap recordings (which I HOPE they have done), LDT results and specifics, and other information, etc....they are able to determine who should be "ruled IN" as a POI and/or suspect. This information may not physically "rule out" others like Joe Smith (fictional name, lol) who lives down the street, but the information LE has may make LE less likely to believe Joe Smith had any involvement and/or be less interested in investigating him further. Kwim?

 

[Tugela]

I think the wording included "in the disappearance of her daughter". Maybe she is not ruled out completely, as far as possible other factors, obstruction, etc? I am just guessing.

If they don't know what happened then they can't rule anyone out. If they are saying that, they either do know what happened or they don't know what they are doing.

The only way to "rule someone out" is to fully account for that persons whereabouts from the last known irrefutable sighting of HD and the recovery of her body (dead or alive). I don't believe that anyone involved in this case falls into that category yet.

 

[gngr~snap]

If they don't know what happened then they can't rule anyone out. If they are saying that, they either do know what happened or they don't know what they are doing.

The only way to "rule someone out" is to fully account for that persons whereabouts from the last known irrefutable sighting of HD and the recovery of her body (dead or alive). I don't believe that anyone involved in this case falls into that category yet.

The agencies are: Colorado City Police Department, Mitchell County Sheriff’s Office, Texas Department of Public Safety, FBI, Snyder Police Department, 32nd Judicial District Court, Scurry County Sheriff’s Office, Secret Service and Child Advisory Center.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=328456

And now it is down to one investigator? :waitasec:

"I'm confident we'll find Hailey," said Dean. "I don't think Hailey wants to be found. I believe she's hiding. She's probably scared at this point. We're going to find her."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=329706

There is NO telling what she could have witnessed! maybe LE KNOWS where and how HD is! DD was "placed" somewhere else too! but why... :banghead:

"Through the affidavit, you've seen part of what the investigation is, but we're asking you not to jump to any conclusions...there's a lot more to this case." Department of Public Safety Senior Trooper Sparky Dean said.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26472310/detail.html

Are there NO more searches being conducted by LE? just the public?

IMO the ONLY way anyone could be elimnated at this point is if LE is hiding HD... and they are not gonna tell us!~ any time soon IMO.

 

[Velouria]

Just finished reading BeanE's latest entry here:

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/02/10/hailey-dunn-message-from-peter-kampfer/

Wowee wow wow!

Looks like we need to re-name this thread!

 

[For The Kids]

After reading that i dont believe Billie has been cleared at all otherwise he could simply have said so instead of giving the answer he in fact gave.

 

[curiousc]

After reading that i dont believe Billie has been cleared at all otherwise he could simply have said so instead of giving the answer he in fact gave.

Silence speaks volumes here

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Although i think Shawn is involved..to me Billie acts more guilty than Shawn does and In my opinion seems to be the one pulling most of the strings at the moment.

BBM:

I agree. The LACK of emotion from Billie regarding Hailey's disappearance is "telling." :sick:

I have no doubt Shawn is involved ... but my opinion, he is more involved in the cover-up than the actual disapperance.

I do not believe LE is telling us everything regarding BD, know what I mean ?

 

[my_tee_mouse]

BBM:

I agree. The LACK of emotion from Billie regarding Hailey's disappearance is "telling." :sick:

I have no doubt Shawn is involved ... but my opinion, he is more involved in the cover-up than the actual disapperance.

I do not believe LE is telling us everything regarding BD, know what I mean ?

BBM: Yes, I know exactly what you mean.

 

[curiousc]

BBM:

I agree. The LACK of emotion from Billie regarding Hailey's disappearance is "telling." :sick:

I have no doubt Shawn is involved ... but my opinion, he is more involved in the cover-up than the actual disapperance.

I do not believe LE is telling us everything regarding BD, know what I mean ?

And since she keeps on getting out there in the media, that's what LE wants. The more she gets out there, the more her story changes or is embellished. So why wreck that by publically naming her a POI?

I also wonder if they named SA a POI earlier on in order to scare BD?