HOW does the State Prove it was not George?

[shelbar53]

And, in the jail tapes, the parents did seems concerned if KC had shared something (what, we don't know) with the counselor.

Also, another time, GA expressed 'you know other things will come out'.

I'm sooo curious as to what other things.

Those other things might be what the FBI discussed with George. You know those bad pics of casey that made george vomit.

 

[katydid23]

George shows emotion and true absolute sadness over what's happened to his daughter and especially his granddaughter. George got a memorial tattoo, not a celebration tattoo. George took care of Caylee more than Casey did. George has character witnesses. He may have had anger problems, but that doesn't mean he isn't good to his granddaughter. My father had a temper, but absolutely dotes on his grandchildren. Men are wired that way sometimes. There's a difference between a temper and evil.

I totally agree. I just hope the jury can see the difference.

 

[Kat]

I can't wait to hear their case.

Me either! I can't wait, especially after that opening statement. In fact I'm as eager to hear what they have to say as I was to hear the SA.

This had better be good, wait make that dazzling. JMHO

 

[SindyBill]

Yep. "Casey was a wonderful mother and George was a louse."
But the jury is not going to forget how in one breath the DT said follow the duct tape and then tried to disprove the duct tape was placed on Caylee's face. What? Did it float down from Hopespring and magically appear around Cayee's skull? They tried to debunk every thing they should have been throwing at George. Surely the jury picked up on this.

You bet your bippy the jury picked up on this and much more! Their defense simply does NOT make sense. And if George did it on purpose, why would KC make up this drowning theory and George covered it up? If George was malicious, wouldn't he have done it purposely? And thus he's a MONSTER? I will never buy that crap! George was a better grandfather than KC was a mother. Yes he has his faults, but I'm sure plenty of faults can be found in the most loving of parents/grandparents if under the public eye's microscope.

 

[SindyBill]

I totally agree. I just hope the jury can see the difference.

I hope so too. I think they are going to be able to see it. KC doesn't do very well at hiding what is real with her. She's transparent. "Good liar", she is not. Frequent, yes, but good? No!

 

[Cubby]

I have heard 'talking heads' for the DT saying it was because she was afraid to tell anyone the full extent of the incest and abuse because of the shame and guilt.

They might say she caught Daddy messing with Caylee. Remember how he said the last time he remembers being with Caylee he was helping to potty train her?

So Casey caught him and things went bad. And he told Casey to leave and to keep quiet or he would accuse her of harming her child. Then he framed Casey himself and here we are now.

Technically the state doesn't have to prove anything regarding George.

Baez's opening statement was a stretch. HUGE stretch. Baez is smoking something funny or drinking the ICA koolaid if he thinks for a second any reasonable adult would believe George would tell Casey she would go to jail for the rest of her freakin life (as verbatim as I recall) for child neglect.

I'm not going to post too much on this subject because I fully believe JB has someone reading here just to get a heads up on how the jury may react and I'm not giving him that heads up with my opinion. I will however say JB's opening statement was SO far reaching he has likely lost credibility with the jurors. He sounds like a 4 or 5 year old making up some elaborate story that no reasonable adult would believe yet goes on and on like the adult really believes it. Like many have said, he wrote the check now he has to cash it. I predict it will bounce. insufficient funds.

jmo

 

[LancelotLink]

Good post! The SA should point out that until 6 weeks ago she was still sticking with Zanny until the DT failed in all their attempts to keep the evidence that proved she didn't exist out...

And only those of us who watched as LKB prostituted herself on 48 Hours knew something like this was coming.
I think the SA did prove that GA is not what the DT is trying so hard to portray.
But, the DT will keep digging, because they have sunk everything they have on this allegation. I've listened to the LE interviews with George. He isn't squealing on Casey. He's trying to see if there is a possibility of cutting a deal for her. He was not telling LE anything they did not already know.

 

[katydid23]

Casey doesn't have symptoms that aren't FEIGNED. George hasn't done anything a lot of men haven't done either. George has no motive for killing a 2 year old, PLEASE. KC and KC alone did. This is just ludicrous. Poor George, no wonder he attempted suicide. He lost his granddaughter and daughter in one fell swoop and now he has to deal with this kind of asinine speculation because of his daughter's failure to accept what she has done and deflect.

Please understand---I KNOW Casey did this herself. I am just predicting what the DT's case is going to be tomorrow. I am steeling myself for it because it is coming fast. I just hope George can jump outta the way.

 

[SindyBill]

Me either! I can't wait, especially after that opening statement. In fact I'm as eager to hear what they have to say as I was to hear the SA.

This had better be good, wait make that dazzling. JMHO

I just can't wait for the State's cross. LDB is making me more and more wanting to pursue law!!

 

[SindyBill]

Please understand---I KNOW Casey did this herself. I am just predicting what the DT's case is going to be tomorrow. I am steeling myself for it because it is coming fast. I just hope George can jump outta the way.

I know, lol. I edited my post - I didn't realize that it sounded like I was harshly directing you. I was meaning my harshness to go towards the defense, not you!! I didn't realize how it came across until I reread it. I do apologize.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Night. And by the way, I hope you know I do not BELIEVE george had anything to do with this. I am just preparing us all for what is to come, imo.

NO NO NO I have my fingers in my ears and I can't hear you!
:crazy::crazy::crazy:

 

[SindyBill]

The talking heads have a purpose/agenda, remember, and that is to get ratings. If they said what we all know to be the truth - no one would really pay attention. We stop and turn our heads going "WHATT?!?!" when we hear them spew ridiculousness that is in NO WAY true. I don't care HOW scared she was of the "incest/abuse" coming out - it came out anyway, didn't it?! Wouldn't it have been better to come out BEFORE the trial, get herself OUT of jail, and into a safe house where she can rebuild her life and get the counseling she'd need? You know, if that malarkey were true..

 

[Cubby]

Please understand---I KNOW Casey did this herself. I am just predicting what the DT's case is going to be tomorrow. I am steeling myself for it because it is coming fast. I just hope George can jump outta the way.

BBM. Infuriating and almost comical to a point - by that I mean comical if we weren't talking about a precious 2 yr old who lost her life and deserves justice.

 

[GetSmart]

This just came to my mind .. What if they hypnotized ICA and they play the tape and she would not have to take the stand ...The hypnotist would be the witness and the tape is evidence .. and she spills her guts .. about death and abuse ... Man that would open up a can of yuck yes ??

 

[bammy]

Lurker here. I just wanted to point out that George was employed as a security guard. The search for escort services came before the job applications. From what I understand, that with escort services, the woman has a "security guard" go with her. He drives her and stays in the car while she "escorts". Just another possibility to that search. With that much debt, he may have needed a job, any job.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Great question!!

Their evidence is no evidence. They have nothing or no one, save one to back up these allegations. Personally, I think ICA will testify and I will relish the moment.

Anything George had access to; ie car, tape, laundry bag, garbage bag, Casey did as well. And so did Cindy for that matter.

The defense would have me believe that George feared Casey more than he loves Caylee. What would ICA be holding over his head? Who was she gonna tell? Cindy? didn't she tell someone that she did tell Cindy about Lee trying to sex her up and Cindy didn't believe her?

Casey feared George? Didn't she ridicule him by giving him a book about Finding Jobs for Dummies? And she did this while pretending she had a job, so she was better than him? Is this behavior for one who was supposedly abused or is this the behavior of a spoiled little nitwit who knew no boundaries, respect and no responsibilities?

I can't wait for the state to try and throw George under the bus. There seems to be something very important they forgot and I'm not gonna tell them. :floorlaugh:

Casey did not live in a make believe world. She manipulated real people to get her way and get over on these real people. She took the life of her daughter the night of June 15th. That's quite a ride back from Mt. Dora with Cindy asking questions. My guess is she found out about mommy wearing the flag and all kind of stuff hit the fan when Casey showed up later. MOO

Great Post.....ITA don't tell them:floorlaugh:

 

[camcneishg]

Not sure where to post this, but it does relate to the duct tape....After going back and reading much of the trial thread from today....I do feel the need to apologize for popping in and posting "Lee hid the duct tape"...then leaving. I was so shocked to hear HJBP when he read the stipulations to the jury about the news photos mention LA was running that command center that day.....I never knew this...I thought it was GA all along. So....the way I see it is that LA was the last person seen with THAT duct tape, .....now not sure he "hid" it, but it's prob at his home or in his car. I do apologize for not sticking around to answer those that thought I was being sarcastic.....I was really serious!

 

[Scamperoo]

I do not think they have proven it was in her possession totally. I think the DT will have some startling evidence which may make the jury wonder.

It can be proven by the cell pings that day and the fact that George was at work. When she left the home she was tracked by her phone and her father was already at work, after that when did he get the chance?

 

[ZsaZsa]

I think if GA had ever molested ICA then she would have told CA - from then on GA would have been singing in the girls choir....and would have been permanently out of their lives.
When LA did what ever he did ( and I feel, since observing his oddness for a couple of years that he probably did some teenage boy thing designed to embarrass her, pulled her shirt up or some Jackass type of prank) it is interesting that CA did not believe her but said "So,is that what made you a ?'
I can come up with a list of things I don't like about GA but he had no part in this... from what I saw on the stand I think he will have given the Jury that same impression..
IMO

 

[ZsaZsa]

Lurker here. I just wanted to point out that George was employed as a security guard. The search for escort services came before the job applications. From what I understand, that with escort services, the woman has a "security guard" go with her. He drives her and stays in the car while she "escorts". Just another possibility to that search. With that much debt, he may have needed a job, any job.

Isn't the Security Guard for escorts usually called a Pimp?