Hurricane Harvey - August 2017

[BetteDavisEyes]

CNN showing live helicopter rescue. Anderson Cooper on site. Pence to visit region for damage assessment.

 

[CARIIS]

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Lawyers to Harvey victims: File insurance claims before law changes Sept. 1 or risk losing money

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Maybe just make a call and open a claim -- i DON'T know say you know your FRIDGE is out just to get claim open!!

just to get claim open!!

just to get claim open!!

just to get claim open!!


[FONT=&amp]Lawyers and consumer advocates, however, say the new law will severely limit homeowners' ability to hold insurance companies accountable when they take months or years to pay for a claim, underpay or wrongfully deny legitimate claims.

[/FONT]https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas-legislature/2017/08/28/lawyers-harvey-victims-file-insurance-claims-law-changes-sept-1-risk-losing-money

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Hospital evacuation underway in Beaumont. Hospital no longer has water. Patients must be transferred elsewhere.

 

[Bently]

I don't really believe the company when it says the released peroxides aren't toxic (at least one first responder has already been hospitalized after breathing in the stuff).

But the problems caused by these explosions is nothing compared to the very under-reported story about flooded federal Super Fund sites in Harris County. There are about 12 such sites overall, and I think all are flooded, as are an unknown number of sites officially deemed highly toxic by the state of Texas.

I don't believe it either. I can imagine the water will literally catch on fire from all this crap.

Having worked with organic peroxides, I do believe the reports of the spokesperson, although I agree he did not communicate very well during the presser. This is not a chemical which will lay on the water and be on fire. It's explosive when under pressure or with higher temps if unstable and .. and the oxygen in the compounds will heavily contribute to fire. Toxic and noxious (irritant and cause permanent damage) ) is not poisonous... and even I cannot find a way to communicate it here the difference.

Superfund site... that's another worry indeed.

 

[CARIIS]

I don't believe it either. I can imagine the water will literally catch on fire from all this crap.

That started happening in NO

 

[CARIIS]

Regarding Russell Honore, the man is an angel walking on the earth! I was very impressed with what he had to say regarding Harvey and what he has lived through!

I wish they would give him this mess. NO changed after he stepped out of his airplane!

Will try to find it will never forget him losing his marbles that everyone was walking around with thier guns aimed at victims!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I wish they would give him this mess. NO changed after he stepped out of his airplane!

Will try to find it will never forget him losing his marbles that everyone was walking around with thier guns aimed at victims!

He hated looters/robbers too and would threaten them if they didn't get out of the area immediately. He hated a thief.

I really think all of the first responders are doing a fantastic job under such trying circumstances. The flooded areas are much larger than it was during Katrina.

 

[CARIIS]

They just cant catch a break . Tropical depression in gulf that has little chance of development while still producing precipitation .

 

[crhedBngr]

Continued thoughts and prayers. There's gotta be an end to this!

 

[Betty P]

I don't really believe the company when it says the released peroxides aren't toxic (at least one first responder has already been hospitalized after breathing in the stuff).

But the problems caused by these explosions is nothing compared to the very under-reported story about flooded federal Super Fund sites in Harris County. There are about 12 such sites overall, and I think all are flooded, as are an unknown number of sites officially deemed highly toxic by the state of Texas.

Though they're a big problem, the Super Fund sites are just part of it. The Houston Ship Channel is filled with chemical and petrochemical facilties, refineries, etc. that are also probably leaking a massive toxic stew into the flood waters. Same situation in areas like Beaumont, Pt Arthur and other coastal cities where there are many more of these refineries and chemical/petrochemical production facilities.

ETA: BTW, has everyone who can made a donation here at Websleuths? I've made a couple donations so far, ready to make another. Please help if you can. I'm posting this on my own, I hope Tricia doesn't mind.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

On Tuesday, AccuWeather predicted that Harvey could ultimately cost $190 billion which would make it the costliest storm in U.S. history, since Hurricane Katrina in 2005 cost the economy an estimated $160 billion.

https://focuswashington.com/2017/08/31/harvey-one-expensive-storms-u-s-history/


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DoD, Guard Will Provide All Texas Asks for in Struggle Against Harvey Floods

Over 30,000 National Guard troops are assisting the Texas National Guard and other responders.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Articl...s-asks-for-in-struggle-against-harvey-floods/

 

[Betty P]

Just watching CNN covering people walking door to door in Houston checking homes, I came up with an idea.

What if all the telemarketing companies, political campaign consultants, etc. that have massive, up to date phone databases and call centers volunteered to send automated phone calls to all their contacts in the affected zip codes? People could answer and press a button to say if they needed rescue or are sheltered someplace. They could then filter those who don't answer or need assistance and quickly follow up with live phone calls from staff to determine where people are and what help they need.

Lots could be accomplished quickly using these mass calling systems. Might as well put them to good use.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Though they're a big problem, the Super Fund sites are just part of it. The Houston Ship Channel is filled with chemical and petrochemical facilties, refineries, etc. that are also probably leaking a massive toxic stew into the flood waters. Same situation in areas like Beaumont, Pt Arthur and other coastal cities where there are many more of these refineries and chemical/petrochemical production facilities.

ETA: BTW, has everyone who can made a donation here at Websleuths? I've made a couple donations so far, ready to make another. Please help if you can. I'm posting this on my own, I hope Tricia doesn't mind.

Yes, my husband and I have donated twice already. Twice to the Salvation Army since little of the donations go for administrative expenses and goes directly to the needs of the people who needs it. We are planning on donating for months, and even longer if necessary. We have been through these type of devastating floods before and know recovery is a very long process. So I hope that those who donate now will remember this and donate again and often.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Just watching CNN covering people walking door to door in Houston checking homes, I came up with an idea.

What if all the telemarketing companies, political campaign consultants, etc. that have massive, up to date phone databases and call centers volunteered to send automated phone calls to all their contacts in the affected zip codes? People could answer and press a button to say if they needed rescue or are sheltered someplace. They could then filter those who don't answer or need assistance and quickly follow up with live phone calls from staff to determine where people are and what help they need.

Lots could be accomplished quickly using these mass calling systems. Might as well put them to good use.

I really think the best thing to do is do a check door to door physically. I imagine many landlines are out and many of the cell phones are probably dead by now.

Someone said earlier there are over 18 thousand homes that have to be checked. That sounds extremely low to me and I think it will be many more homes than that low number.

This will be one of their more taxing tasks because they have to search everywhere even in the attics of each and every home or business that has been flooded to make sure there are no alive or dead victims there.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Continued thoughts and prayers. There's gotta be an end to this!

Unfortunately, we are going to be in the hurricane season next week and there are several storms swirling that may come ashore in the Gulf or slam the states on the east coast where we live. Our area has been slammed by hurricanes coming out of the Gulf and also those who came inland in the Atlantic.

I am afraid this is just the start of the very bad weather. All of the weather experts have said this hurricane season will be very active possibly producing several monster hurricanes.

 

[crhedBngr]

Just watching CNN covering people walking door to door in Houston checking homes, I came up with an idea.

What if all the telemarketing companies, political campaign consultants, etc. that have massive, up to date phone databases and call centers volunteered to send automated phone calls to all their contacts in the affected zip codes? People could answer and press a button to say if they needed rescue or are sheltered someplace. They could then filter those who don't answer or need assistance and quickly follow up with live phone calls from staff to determine where people are and what help they need.

Lots could be accomplished quickly using these mass calling systems. Might as well put them to good use.

Brilliant.

 

[Hope4More]

Though they're a big problem, the Super Fund sites are just part of it. The Houston Ship Channel is filled with chemical and petrochemical facilties, refineries, etc. that are also probably leaking a massive toxic stew into the flood waters. Same situation in areas like Beaumont, Pt Arthur and other coastal cities where there are many more of these refineries and chemical/petrochemical production facilities.

ETA: BTW, has everyone who can made a donation here at Websleuths? I've made a couple donations so far, ready to make another. Please help if you can. I'm posting this on my own, I hope Tricia doesn't mind.

Rebuilding at least gives Texas decision -makers a chance to rethink safety & zoning matters across the board. Houston is on a flood plain. Global warming is real. Houston will flood again, whether they be 100, 500, or every other year type floods.


The cost of not doing it right this time- especially the social/human toll- is just too high, Imo.

 

[crhedBngr]

Though they're a big problem, the Super Fund sites are just part of it. The Houston Ship Channel is filled with chemical and petrochemical facilties, refineries, etc. that are also probably leaking a massive toxic stew into the flood waters. Same situation in areas like Beaumont, Pt Arthur and other coastal cities where there are many more of these refineries and chemical/petrochemical production facilities.

ETA: BTW, has everyone who can made a donation here at Websleuths? I've made a couple donations so far, ready to make another. Please help if you can. I'm posting this on my own, I hope Tricia doesn't mind.

RBBM

If I am understanding this post correctly, I think Betty P. means donating to Websleuths to keep this wonderful site up and running.

 

[Jax49]

RBBM

If I am understanding this post correctly, I think Betty P. means donating to Websleuths to keep this wonderful site up and running.

After rereading I'm not sure, but either way it is a good thing to do. I also noticed Tricia is donating five percent to the Salvation Army.

 

[Bently]

****************************************IIMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT

Last day pls share

Lawyers to Harvey victims: File insurance claims before law changes Sept. 1 or risk losing money

[FONT=&]FILED UNDER[/FONT]

Maybe just make a call and open a claim -- i DON'T know say you know your FRIDGE is out just to get claim open!!

just to get claim open!!

just to get claim open!!

just to get claim open!!


[FONT=&]Lawyers and consumer advocates, however, say the new law will severely limit homeowners' ability to hold insurance companies accountable when they take months or years to pay for a claim, underpay or wrongfully deny legitimate claims.

[/FONT]https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas-legislature/2017/08/28/lawyers-harvey-victims-file-insurance-claims-law-changes-sept-1-risk-losing-money

These types of headlines infuriate me as folks don't read the entire article. The headline is merely inflammatory and misleading and passed along by folks who promote ullhair:

HB 1774 does not change the insurance claims process for insurance policyholders. It has more to do with suing companies later down the line, and this article was original by lawyers wanting folks to file suit now ullhair:

I suggest read the entire article.