IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #10

[tlcya]

What is up with this town?????????????

There seems to be a lot of people connected with this case who obviously have been in jail/prison for felony offenses and I am assuming on probation upon release. They appear to be engaging in activities and locations or with people that would clearly violate terms of probation, yet not locked up? Hooking up with the person that you have domestic violence charges against? Living life (IMO) "as usual" while your child is missing? Lack of details given by LE to the public that would assist in finding the girls? Lack of media knowledge and coverage about missing girls and their family?

I am pretty new to this blog and have not been involved in other cases (other than the family that was killed and placed in the tree here locally), so I need to ask: Is it "normal" to ask for the public's help in locating missing people when you aren't given any details about what to look for (clothing, location, description, motive, associates, time, etc)?

Something just doesn't make sense..............This case has attracted world attention and national investigators...........yet nobody appears to be saying or doing anything!!!!!!!!!!!!


I get the fact that some information needs to be witheld because of the investigation, but this is the most hush-hush case I have ever seen(IMO)!

as to the BBM portion of your post, unfortunately, this is not unusual. I have seen it in other cases I have followed as well. It never fails to amaze me that we, the public, will be asked to keep on the lookout for this or that endangered or missing person and be given next to nothing aside from a photo or two. Often times there is little info provided on apparel, distinguishing scars, birthmarks, etc.

It is frustrating. Maddeningly so.

 

[Eileen730]

What bothers me is the purse tossed away as it was to me that says maybe they thought she was carrying money or something that purse is the one thing that jumps out at me and says this was an assault on these 2 girls and im wondering if it was KIDS!

Parents would cover for their children!

 

[Sailorsgirl]

Obviously, reporters do not work 24 hours a day. They work normal shifts like everyone else. So it would be really easy for them to miss a late-night incident that may or may not amount to much.

If it's a daily newspaper, there would, almost definitely, be someone working through the night and, hopefully, listening to the scanners.

 

[tlcya]

I know granny saw them at that time but i thought someone saw them around 2 30????

aNYONE?

there were reports from aunt TB that someone reported having seen the girls on their bikes at the lake that afternoon. That sighting does not appear to be taken into consideration in the LE timeline they have discussed in pressers and statements.

I can only imagine the reason for that is that LE has not been able to substantiate or confirm that sighting.

There were also witnesses (a lawn watering resident if I recall) who claim they saw the girls "sometime between 12:30 or 1" or "12:30 or 3" depending on if you believe the husband or wife of that couple

 

[Sailorsgirl]

What bothers me is the purse tossed away as it was to me that says maybe they thought she was carrying money or something that purse is the one thing that jumps out at me and says this was an assault on these 2 girls and im wondering if it was KIDS!

Parents would cover for their children!

Yeah, but can kids keep their mouths shut? If they were to tell a friend, that friend may tell their own parents. I mean, my stepson, when he was younger, took a bike that was lying near a playground. His defense was that he "found" it. His friend who he had either told or who was with him had the sense to tell his parents ... and the parents told my stepson's mother.

 

[brighidin]

Thanks for posting this. So sad Elizabeth isn't home for her mermaid cake and birthday party.

 

[nikb]

<snipped for space>

ETA: If Misty and Lyric were going to the beach every day, I wonder if they met someone there they became friendly with.

I thought they went SWIMMING every day, not necessarily to a beach. Certainly not to the swampy, leech infested lake (as described by the locals and in photos).

They might've made friends at the pool, but if they've been going to a beach, where was it? Who was there?

 

[Sailorsgirl]

I thought they went SWIMMING every day, not necessarily to a beach. Certainly not to the swampy, leech infested lake (as described by the locals and in photos).

They might've made friends at the pool, but if they've been going to a beach, where was it? Who was there?

So I'm guessing the lake is just used for fishing and boating, but doesn't have a beach area like a lot of lakes around here (not counting the myriad of reservoirs).

 

[Bootsctr]

Good point. He's a sexual predator woman killer.
Church did him no good since he's killed at least 2 women in 13 years.
:moo:.

Remember the BTK killer? Scary thought!

 

[brighidin]

I thought they went SWIMMING every day, not necessarily to a beach. Certainly not to the swampy, leech infested lake (as described by the locals and in photos).

They might've made friends at the pool, but if they've been going to a beach, where was it? Who was there?

So I'm guessing the lake is just used for fishing and boating, but doesn't have a beach area like a lot of lakes around here (not counting the myriad of reservoirs).

i don't have time to go back and look, but I'm certain a pool wasn't mentioned and that it wasn't Meyers lake, which is, indeed, muddy and leechy.

 

[duchessofdork]

Hummmm, all that from 2 of her comments.
Like I said IMO the religious comments
were not sincere and were for the publics sake.

Right. I think the simple explanation is that Heather and Drew's spirituality make the public look at them in a more positive light than Misty and Dan, so Misty's trying to emulate.

 

[JaimeInLA]

Obviously, reporters do not work 24 hours a day. They work normal shifts like everyone else. So it would be really easy for them to miss a late-night incident that may or may not amount to much.

With all due respect, this is what I do for a living. That used to be true. But now, in the age of Twitter and dwindling jobs in traditional media, reporters are expected to be on duty 24-7. At least in L.A. and NYC.

I fall asleep with my iPad next to my head, and it wakes me if someone tweets me. That's what's required to keep a job these days.

 

[nikb]

<snipped for space>
You can only edit dates of posts if your account was upgraded to the Timeline version, which hers has not been upgraded. Second, if you edit a date, it doesn't change the date of the post, it simply places it in the right location on your timeline, but it borders it with a different border.

Also no one has any control over the datetime stamps of comments and her religious posts in March have comments with March dates.

That was an UPgrade? I'm definitely not a fan of the whole timeline thing. I would still have the old version if I had a choice. But thank you for the information, it's helpful!

 

[hollyblue]

I found this and there are cameras!

http://lb.511ia.org/ialb/cameras/routeselect.jsf?view=cedarfalls_waterloo&text=m&textOnly=false

TY. Do we know if they record or are they just live cams?

 

[voxrock2000]

It has been said there was road construction on the highway next to the lake. There are theories that a lot of unsolved abductions correlate with road projects.

Here is a link to bill warners page discussing this.
http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2...phalt-paving-projects-are-in-progress-nearby/

 

[JaimeInLA]

i don't have time to go back and look, but I'm certain a pool wasn't mentioned and that it wasn't Meyers lake, which is, indeed, muddy and leechy.

Tammy and Misty took their daughters swimming at a public pool nearly every day since Misty's release on May 30. I forget the name of the pool, but it has been mentioned in interviews.

 

[tlcya]

BBM
Which case is the one you are referring to if you don't mind telling me?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4025890...t/bodies-missing-ohio-trio-found-hollow-tree/

I believe this case is the one being mentioned. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4025890...t/bodies-missing-ohio-trio-found-hollow-tree/ An unemployed tree-trimmer &#8212; arrested after a teenage girl was found bound and gagged in his basement &#8212; pointed the way Thursday to a hollow tree where the bodies of her brother, mother and another woman were hidden in garbage bags.

Very sad case

ETA link to WS thread on that case http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119633&highlight=Tina+Herrmann

 

[hollyblue]

Grim End to Ohio Mystery: 3 Bodies Found in Tree - YouTube

 

[saca4211]

Happy birthday little Elizabeth, prayers for your safe return!

 

[Sailorsgirl]

With all due respect, this is what I do for a living. That used to be true. But now, in the age of Twitter and dwindling jobs in traditional media, reporters are expected to be on duty 24-7. At least in L.A. and NYC.

I fall asleep with my iPad next to my head, and it wakes me if someone tweets me. That's what's required to keep a job these days.

I know that all too well ... I was part of major layoffs in the mid-200s.