IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #17

[CN2Souls]

Way...Off Topic....

I think the FBI could also get a job writing insurance policies (just Saying...) LOL

 

[dotr]

If this can be arranged from prison, maybe a kidnapping can too, sort of the opposite of a "home-delivery".
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2012/08/23/20131271.html
"INDIANAPOLIS - The FBI said on Wednesday it broke up a methamphetamine dealing ring coordinated by two Indiana prison inmates helped by corrections officers that brought illegal drugs from California to Indiana using postal and courier deliveries"

 

[Marilynilpa]

Way...Off Topic....

I think the FBI could also get a job writing insurance policies (just Saying...) LOL

Yes, they seem to be saying something, but when I stop and think about what they said, I get confused:waitasec:

 

[callyn]

I believe that info did not come from LE but from Aunt Tammy. I don't think the police have ever stated what the dogs did or did not hit on. I am sure someone will correct me on this if I am wrong.

Yes that did come from TB. You're right. I assumed something and you know what they say about assume.

 

[Marilynilpa]

I believe that info did not come from LE but from Aunt Tammy. I don't think the police have ever stated what the dogs did or did not hit on. I am sure someone will correct me on this if I am wrong.

I was all set to provide a link to someone from FBI/LE discussing where the dogs hit, and to my surprise I haven't found one yet.

I've found articles that state the dogs were being used, and articles quoting MCM as saying the dogs ran around the lake and stopped at the edge of the water (http://articles.cnn.com/2012-07-17/us/us_iowa-missing-cousins_1_arizona-girl-girls-home-persons-case), but nothing so far from an official source stating where the dogs went while searching.

I'll keep looking . . .

 

[CN2Souls]

I was all set to provide a link to someone from FBI/LE discussing where the dogs hit, and to my surprise I haven't found one yet.

I've found articles that state the dogs were being used, and articles quoting MCM as saying the dogs ran around the lake and stopped at the edge of the water (http://articles.cnn.com/2012-07-17/us/us_iowa-missing-cousins_1_arizona-girl-girls-home-persons-case), but nothing so far from an official source stating where the dogs went while searching.

I'll keep looking . . .

Do we even have a Video...???? Nancy Grace style or anything...?

 

[dotr]

Throwing this out there- went looking for info. on chloroform and lo and behold there is a W.S. thread (for anyone interested) devoted to the subject. Thinking of some quick acting drug (date rape) chloroform, ect.- and one of those bikes with a trailer attachment...
Chloroform Murders/Abductions - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Sunlight]

Need somebody to take over "downstairs" for me.....Thx

 

[palaminodee]

OT...can't believe it's been 20 yrs! no arrest
http://www.kwwl.com/story/19349899/fbi-offering-reward-for

 

[MotherOcean]

I've posted a link to this video before but I thought I'd post it again for anyone who hasn't seen it. It helped me to see the south side of the lake from the north side. It also shows some footage of the dogs. You can see the area where LE met with the family after the bikes were found. It also helped me to visualize how close the water was to the brush and fence on the side of the lake before the lake was drained.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=0YJp8FeBM3M&NR=1

I had thought that maybe the girls were sitting near where the purse was found when they were abducted but after watching this video, I'm thinking they probably weren't doing so. The foliage is just too thick and it doesn't look like a comfortable spot to sit nor stand around.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Investigator arrived at the Auction Shop 20 minutes after learning that the manager had the girls on video footage. They spent Monday and half of Tuesday examining the footage. The manager mentioned that they copied the footage and took note of every vehicle that was seen on the footage.

:seeya: As always thank you Otto.

 

[CHERIE.T]

The FBI brought two dogs to the area to search Monday night, and the dogs were used again on Tuesday, FBI spokeswoman Sandy Breault said.


The dogs used scent pad samples taken from the girls' shoes and picked up a scent trail, but Breault couldn't say what, if anything, it led investigators to.

Misty Cook-Morrissey, Lyric's mother, told CNN that after smelling the scent pads Monday, the dogs ran around the lake and stopped at the water's edge.



Authorities said Tuesday that they didn't know whether the girls had been at the lake.

"We have their bicycles and we have the purse and that doesn't tell me that they've been there, just that those items are there," Abben said.


http://articles.cnn.com/2012-07-17/us/us_iowa-missing-cousins_1_arizona-girl-girls-home-persons-case



RBBM


:waitasec: Okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.....

CN2, thanks for finding this.
Wow, clear as mud.
What does that mean?
Either the girls were at the lake or they were not at the lake. :waitasec:
lease: I pray they're found soon.
Tomorrow will be 6 weeks since they were last seen. lease:

 

[Marilynilpa]

Sorry if this has already been posted - two setts of human remains were found in a grave in Indianapolis, and LE does not know age/sex/race. Probably not connected to this case in any way.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/31378490/detail.html

 

[CHERIE.T]

Was the bike ride from the house to where the cctv sighted the girls only seconds away from the house?
TIA

 

[BethInAK]

Sorry if this has already been posted - two setts of human remains were found in a grave in Indianapolis, and LE does not know age/sex/race. Probably not connected to this case in any way.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/31378490/detail.html

I hope its not connected but...concerning nontheless.

 

[Marilynilpa]

I hope its not connected but...concerning nontheless.

O/T - your dog is so cute. Is he/she a Welsh Corgi by any chance??

 

[BethInAK]

O/T - your dog is so cute. Is he/she a Welsh Corgi by any chance??

LOL I forgot he was on here.
Yes, that is Pirate, the Pembroke Welsh Corgi rescue.

 

[elmomom]

http://m.indystar.com/topstories/article?a=2012120823047&f=1242

One is a male and the other is older than a child.

 

[MotherOcean]

Was the bike ride from the house to where the cctv sighted the girls only seconds away from the house?
TIA

Yes. The house is on the east corner. The girls were headed west and the cctv is around the middle of the block on the same road as the house.

 

[otto]

The FBI brought two dogs to the area to search Monday night, and the dogs were used again on Tuesday, FBI spokeswoman Sandy Breault said.

The dogs used scent pad samples taken from the girls' shoes and picked up a scent trail, but Breault couldn't say what, if anything, it led investigators to.
Misty Cook-Morrissey, Lyric's mother, told CNN that after smelling the scent pads Monday, the dogs ran around the lake and stopped at the water's edge.

Authorities said Tuesday that they didn't know whether the girls had been at the lake.

"We have their bicycles and we have the purse and that doesn't tell me that they've been there, just that those items are there," Abben said.

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-07-17/us/us_iowa-missing-cousins_1_arizona-girl-girls-home-persons-case



RBBM


:waitasec:Okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.....

Thanks. So Abben did say that although the bikes and the purse were at the lake, that does not mean that the girls were there ... which is equivalent to saying that those items could have been staged ... in my opinion.