IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #36

[NWLady]

https://www.facebook.com/wcfcourier?fref=nf

https://www.facebook.com/KWWL7

Comments under articles all seem to indicate that Chief Smock had some "extra-curricular activities" that didn't bode well with his peers. Can't say I blame them.

They must've removed that comment because I don't see it now. Darn, I wish I would've had the opportunity to read that one!

 

[iamnotagolem]

Wow! Just wow! But good. Hopefully this will get new eyes on the case and finally solve it.

 

[iamnotagolem]

https://www.facebook.com/wcfcourier?fref=nf

https://www.facebook.com/KWWL7

Comments under articles all seem to indicate that Chief Smock had some "extra-curricular activities" that didn't bode well with his peers. Can't say I blame them.

Quite a difference in posts between the two pages, the KWWL seems to be more blunt about things. haha

 

[Ommmm]

Yeah but still. Was it a surprise to the locals?

Surprise? I would say shock.

 

[dotr]

Is it the same firefighter who found the bikes?


"Surveillance footage and witnesses have confirmed that they were riding nearby. Hours later, after they didn't return, relatives reported the girls missing.

A firefighter soon found their bikes near Meyers Lake, and a search that involved hundreds of volunteers and several police agencies ensued".

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[threecrazykids]

Well, from the little snippet I watched last night on KWWL news last night, they stated that Smock was NOT, and had never been, leading the investigation. Mike Roehrkasse is who Ron Steele stated had been lead on the case.

http://www.kwwl.com/story/28814099/...cousins-investigation-continues-without-smock

I also got the strange vibe from Mike Roehrkasse (in his interview) that this didn't appear to be much of a loss. That is how I read it anyway. He just shrugged his shoulders and said "It won't even really be a hiccup for us."

Maybe he was just being PC about the whole thing, but I at least would have expected him to say something like "While Chief Smock was a major contributor to this case and his insight and expertise will be greatly missed, our investigation will continue until we bring those responsible to justice" or SOMETHING demonstrating that while unfortunate, they will move on.

He didn't put out that vibe AT ALL to me. He just acted like it was no big deal, that it wasn't a loss whatsoever. THAT bothers me. He should have been a huge asset of knowledge, dedication, and information. IMO, Mike Roehrkasse gave the impression of the complete opposite. To say "It won't even really be a hiccup for us" doesn't make me feel he was a huge contributor.

Or maybe he just said that to wane off anyone thinking this WAS going to somehow slow down the investigation or cause an issue. Maybe that's his way of saying "don't panic people...we have PLENTY of people who are still investigating this just as we were yesterday"...and just had a bad choice of words to express that.

"No hiccup" implies (to me) that Smock being gone is no loss whatsoever. But again...I could be totally reading his words wrong from their intent.

 

[threecrazykids]

Here is another article, in which they state that Smock WAS the lead investigator...good grief. Maybe he was leading in Evansdale but the Iowa DCI lead it for the state? It really doesn't matter...

http://www.kcrg.com/subject/news/mi...ramount-after-firing-of-police-chief-20150415

 

[iamnotagolem]

Again all this makes me think the investigation wasn't handled correctly from the get go.

 

[Squeeze]

I think Smock was simply the face of the investigation. I'm sure he did contribute to it, and yes, it should be somewhat of a loss, but there are many others working on the case.

 

[SapphireSteel]

I remember this being an issue from the start, remember when the FBI and the locals were disagreeing with each other?

Smock was always the one talking to the press, too.

I was always uncomfortable with his close personal connection to the family.

moo

 

[Wondergirl]

What the hello is going on? Geez.

 

[dotr]

Wonder if this incident has been investigated any further?

http://thegazette.com/2012/08/01/police-investigate-attempted-cedar-rapids-abduction

" March 31, 2014

UPDATE: An abduction attempt of a 5-year-old boy was stopped by the boy’s father Tuesday in southwest Cedar Rapids, police said.

The boy was riding his bicycle on a sidewalk in the 7500 block of Kirkwood Boulevard SW around 5:30 p.m. when a white 1990s Chevrolet Astro van pulled over next to him. A man and a woman got out, grabbed the boy and the bike and started leading him toward the van, police said.

“They had grabbed ahold of him by the arm or shoulder, and the woman was getting the bike,” Sgt. Cristy Hamblin said.

Police said the boy’s father, who was on a motorcycle just down the street, saw the incident and yelled at the two suspects, who then let go of the boy, got back in the van and drove south".


snip>


"Police said the person who grabbed the boy was a white man in his 30s, about 5-foot-8 and 120 pounds, with short brown hair. The white female suspect was in her 20s, with a thin build and shoulder-length brown hair. She had a tattoo hear her left thumb. A third person, who was driving the van, was a white man with a larger build wearing glasses".

 

[carbuff]

I remember reading another abduction attempt where the woman had a tattoo near her thumb. But I can't remember where or when!

 

[gregjrichards]

I remember reading another abduction attempt where the woman had a tattoo near her thumb. But I can't remember where or when!

I searched for you - incident happened 31/7/2012 "Police said the person who grabbed the boy was a white man in his 30s, about 5-foot-8 and 120 pounds, with short brown hair. The white female suspect was in her 20s, with a thin build and shoulder-length brown hair. She had a tattoo hear her left thumb. A third person, who was driving the van, was a white man with a larger build wearing glasses".http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/Poli...ar-Rapids-Marion-Are-Connected-164644936.html

 

[watcher9]

Another white van!
I still can't load pictures, but here is a website that shows some white Astro vans for sale.
Did the van have side windows?

http://www.carsforsale.com/Search?B...=&FilterPriceless=false&FilterImageless=false

 

[carbuff]

I searched for you - incident happened 31/7/2012 "Police said the person who grabbed the boy was a white man in his 30s, about 5-foot-8 and 120 pounds, with short brown hair. The white female suspect was in her 20s, with a thin build and shoulder-length brown hair. She had a tattoo hear her left thumb. A third person, who was driving the van, was a white man with a larger build wearing glasses".http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/Poli...ar-Rapids-Marion-Are-Connected-164644936.html

Wow, that's even more exact than I remembered. Parts of the descriptions are word for word. I thought at first you were quoting the same incident.

 

[dotr]

Wow, that's even more exact than I remembered. Parts of the descriptions are word for word. I thought at first you were quoting the same incident.

Wait, thinking it is the same incident, but will keep eyes open for any other, tattoos near left thumb..

"Story Created: Aug 1, 2012 at 12:55 PM CDT

Story Updated: Apr 23, 2014"

 

[carbuff]

Wait, thinking it is the same incident, but will keep eyes open for any other, tattoos near left thumb..

"Story Created: Aug 1, 2012 at 12:55 PM CDT

Story Updated: Apr 23, 2014"

I hate it when they do that.

 

[Marilynilpa]

First Smock stepped down from the Fire Department, and now this. I wonder if any more announcements will be made? Something doesn't feel right about this. I wonder if the case will take on a new direction?

 

[Squeeze]

I was going to say, I didn't hear about that.