GUILTY IA - Kraigen Grooms for child sexual abuse, Ottumwa, 2013

[TracyLynnS]

I did a google image search using the toothy photo from ICE. I clicked on "visually similar images" and scrolled through. On the far right side of the 13th from the bottom row (before the "show more results" option) is a photo of a similar aged boy in a white hoodie. Somebody take a look and tell me what you think.

Using the same pic, 13th from the bottom in the returns it gave me is a young Meryl Streep in a movie scene. lol

I'll keep looking through the images for the one you described.

 

[Marnie4]

This is from Marnie, a couple of pages back: If you "Google" Google Image Search it explains how. I just can't from my phone for some reason tonight...they do it on that show CatFish all the time to help people in alleged online relationships to uncover the truth. Fascinating stuff.

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You guys rock! I kind of gave up after someone pointed out that these were likely personal cell phone pics or screenshots as opposed to the kind of photo someone would use for their profile on FB. Maybe I gave up too easily?!

 

[Midwestmama78]

You guys rock! I kind of gave up after someone pointed out that these were likely personal cell phone pics or screenshots as opposed to the kind of photo someone would use for their profile on FB. Maybe I gave up too easily?!

You just never know what you're going to find.

 

[human]

I see. You say that we should do the procedure and look at the pic you found.

It seems hard to believe a kid that age would not have an FB.

 

[Midwestmama78]

I see. You say that we should do the procedure and look at the pic you found.

It seems hard to believe a kid that age would not have an FB.

bbm Yes, that's right. Although judging by tracylynns' experience your search may not turn up the same pic in the same spot.:waitasec:

 

[TracyLynnS]

Lol. I can send the photo to you in a pm if you can't find it.

I think I see him. He's wearing a light colored hoodie. His hair sticks out kinda the same and they have the same unusual earlobes (at least the one you can see of ICE's guy without earbuds in). His eyes look more round than the guy in the ICE photo, imo.

I saw another guy who looks like he could be his older, slightly heavier brother. Lots of similarities in that one, too.

It doesn't look like the image search turned up the guy they're looking for tho. Google showed me a few pics of the pope, Gerarad Depardieu, and lots of asian women.

 

[Midwestmama78]

I think I see him. He's wearing a light colored hoodie. His hair sticks out kinda the same and they have the same unusual earlobes (at least the one you can see of ICE's guy without earbuds in). His eyes look more round than the guy in the ICE photo, imo.

I saw another guy who looks like he could be his older, slightly heavier brother. Lots of similarities in that one, too.

It doesn't look like the image search turned up the guy they're looking for tho. Google showed me a few pics of the pope, Gerarad Depardieu, and lots of asian women.

I don't see the guy you describe. My kid's earlobes don't show. Oh well, there are similarities but prob not him.

 

[tehcloser]

That face is haunting meeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I can't get it out of my mind!

 

[AstroKitty]

These are just my observations (I'm marking my spot btw)
First instinct was:
Chemo hair
Female
holding Hispanic or mixed race child *I'd venture to guess under 4 but older than 1*
Adidas sweat shirt
Brows look shaped and colored in
I did look at the root of the wispy hair and didn't note recent color added, although it could be a bleach job.
I will be rather shocked if this is a genetic male.

There was a case where a woman posed as a teen male and she lived with other pedo's who went on the deep net into "child loving" websites. She was the enticer to get teens groomed to commit acts on children via cam and photos. She was never caught but she is well documented as being sought via a wiki page that's dedicated to online pedos (outing them, not harboring them). She was in the US and in Texas.

 

[Brightbird]

I see a male in the photo which appears to have a child's curly hair. The other two, I can almost see a female. I wondered female-to-male transgender? I think taking male hormones could cause hair thinning and hair loss. But if it would appear as thinning at the sides like in that picture I don't know.

 

[AstroKitty]

I have 2 friends who went from FTM and there wasn't any hair thinning. I'm not an expert though.
The wispy hair is almost a give away though. It *looks* like hair is pulled back under a ball cap, or stuffed into the cap. If this is a male (genetic), I have to assume chemo and under age 17. But it's so hard to say.

The teeth are interesting, obviously no orthodontics and they don't appear stained from nicotine/coffee. while a male can have femme traits, there's something very distinctive about this person. Also, the photos appear to be taken with a webcam (most likely built in to either a droid/iphone or laptop)

 

[Backwoods]

Hmmm. I see on the posters they give an eye color (brown).

Can you folks determine an eye color from those pix?

I guess ICE has lots better technology, of course. But I was just thinking, maybe there are additional photos that they can't show that show eye color better.

 

[AstroKitty]

BTW: Definitely has Russian features (I don't see Polish at all) to the point where I wouldn't be shocked to find out this person is 1st generation here.

 

[AstroKitty]

Hmmm. I see on the posters they give an eye color (brown).

Can you folks determine an eye color from those pix?

I guess ICE has lots better technology, of course. But I was just thinking, maybe there are additional photos that they can't show that show eye color better.

I looked and only 1 photo did it appear this person has brown eyes. I say appears because I can't really tell. They just look dark to me.

The more I look the more it appears it could be a genetic male but definitely eastern euro block somewhere in the lineage. The non pierced ears doesn't mean a LOT but likely if this was female there would be pierced ears. No pierced ears noted.

 

[Backwoods]

The sweatshirt could also say Armani. I searched the hoodies and couldn't find one exactly like it, but some similar. It's awful white though.... so I think it's new.

The boy appears to have a mixed Asian look to me. The little girl's hair also looks to be of mixed decent. Probably white /black or Hispanic /black.



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bbm: Looking again, I think you're correct -- it could. Just not sure -- Adidas or Armani.

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

BTW: Definitely has Russian features (I don't see Polish at all) to the point where I wouldn't be shocked to find out this person is 1st generation here.

Really? I thought he looked mix raced Hispanic/Caucasian.

 

[AstroKitty]

Really? I thought he looked mix raced Hispanic/Caucasian.

I can see that actually. I just had the euro vibe *shrug*

 

[kkdj]

Really? I thought he looked mix raced Hispanic/Caucasian.

I think European
jmo.

 

[human]

BTW: Definitely has Russian features (I don't see Polish at all) to the point where I wouldn't be shocked to find out this person is 1st generation here.

A person I know that is male and has dark eyebrows and light hair is 1/2 Polish and 1/2 Swedish

 

[buffetoflies]

When I first looked at the pics I was reminded of luca RM (snuff vid guy). This person has the same feminine look to him.