Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #22

[KJ's Mamu]

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[Kapua]

Thank you @SharonNeedles for the video! I watched it start to finish. It's great to get the feel of the area. Iowa reminds me of Texas in terms of landscape and terrain. I would say that looking for someone in this vast area is challenging, but that's true of anywhere. Looking forward to the town video!

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

We all are. But I’d take some new information at this point, anything at all from LE that can give us some direction.

Only using your post to jump off

IMOO--LE has far more information than we do. The key to this investigation is probably something we do not know about. Investigations open up a whole new world that surrounded the victim. Sometimes that "new world" contains --people, places, things, lifestyle, habits, associations, etc, that we are just not privy too and for good reason.

IMO Investigations are never just about the information the public has from LE. They will usually scratch the surface of the victim for public knowledge. What they learn from one tip leading to another tip can make a very important discovery about the victims world that may be the key they work the actual case around.

There are some excellent questions, observation, and theories by the WS posters here......but they are only based on info LE CAN make public--thus the involvement of the Fitbit and Pig Farms. When you think about it they can be just carrots thrown out there that have only some bearing in the case , if at all.

Not knowing where all the tips have led will makes it hard for the public to make anything more than a guess as to what really happened. IMOO! LOL!

There are so many times the facts the public knows are in the first days of the investigation, but during the course of said investigation secrets are found with connections to a totally different victim profile. Let us hope this kind of information , if any, is what will hopefully bring closure to a case.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

oh my. Another 70 pages.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

Good Morning, I hope today is the day Mollie's family gets her back.
I have to say one thing that makes me wince every time I see someone post it is when they say "Not that it matters in this case" or "How is that relevant in this case?". Since we know virtually zero about what actually happened, every discussion about some clarifying detail(terrain, timeline, family dynamics, schedules, etc. etc.) when discussing what facts(that's is verified, real data) we do have is pertinent until we have more facts to discuss.

There are miles of posts about speculations, what ifs, opinions, theories, and in the end none of that will matter as much as some tiny detail. The devil is in the details, and until they find her we have only to dissect the case as it stands. In the end, if this is solved, everyone will sit back and go "Ah, so that was it." and none of the wild possibilities will matter in this case.

I guess my point and MOO, every detail matters. We should focus on those. Until more is known.

They might not matter "in this case", now or even after the resolve but we should review what led to discussing those "wild possibilities" and apply that analysis moving forward. Did discussing those wild possibilities help or hinder, were they wasted typing, did they help in expanding discussion of this or other cases?

Knowing what led one to a particular path might be equally as important as having taken or not taken that path.

 

[itros]

Mollie stated in SM that LE approached her in the library and questioned her regarding a missing child. If there is no record of a missing child and if there is no official LE report, then this LE member should be questioned. Each LE member should take a lie detector test regarding this alleged incident. Maybe the FBI could facilitate this. Not LE bashing. Just looking at this with an open mind.

I'm really going out on a limb here with a significant confirmation bias, but if there is any connection with the library incident then that would indicate a massive degree of planning/stalking. I cant express how much sorrow I have for mt and the family and how badly I want them to have closure

 

[Kapua]

Tracking the Mollie Tibbetts Story
Fox News podcast with Bill Hemmer and reporters Christina Corbin and Andrew Keiper, who have been reporting from Iowa.

Christina Corbin says the red shirt that was found kind of took off on social media, that her understanding is that somebody mowing grass in an area near WC's farm found a red shirt but so far they have not heard that the red shirt is connected in any way to Mollie's disappearance.

Andrew Keiper says that Mollie's mom said on background that she had seen the shirt that they had found and that it wasn't Mollie's.

Finally a bit of new information! This should end the red shirt discussion.

 

[jillycat]

The red shirt to me is like the white (or black) van that always appears in these cases.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

Nice of them to let everyone in the world know that the camera is out on a place where people go to pay bills

So glad the source of this information was cleared up. I have been scouring sources trying to find the original place that I found the information when I posted it. Don't understand why it hasn't been fixed and why a new building that no doubt has full lightning rod protection system due to the area issues hasn't been fixed yet? Odd that this is taking so long...its an electric company, security is impt as they supply a decent sized region and payments are dropped off in the box 24/7? Strange.

 

[bestill]

After watching the video from @SharonNeedles I highly doubt they will find MT without a tip and wherever she is is very well known to the perp. Too many options and - imo they would leave her somewhere that they are very comfortable with and know well.

I had a dream last night she was found alive and there was footage of her on a stretcher. I wish it were real and happening right now! I'm sad.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

Finally a bit of new information! This should end the red shirt discussion.

LE has not confirmed one way or another.

 

[i'm someone]

bbm



They might not matter "in this case", now or even after the resolve but we should review what led to discussing those "wild possibilities" and apply that analysis moving forward. Did discussing those wild possibilities help or hinder, were they wasted typing, did they help in expanding discussion of this or other cases?

Knowing what led one to a particular path might be equally as important as having taken or not taken that path.

I think we basically agree then? I don't think anything at this point can be called "not mattering" or "relevant" to this case, because we really don't know.....anything.

 

[Jazzy5980]

Okay,
I thought I read some Fitbit wearers think they are uncomfortable and remove them after running.
Perhaps I misunderstood and they were referring to the cell phone holder.
Would it have been reasonable for her to remove EITHER if she had settled in for the evening?
Apparently this is up for debate like so many other things about this case like how many red shirts are there.
Uncomfortable to wear? - Fitbit Community

I recall DJ said MT uses Fitbit to track her sleep leading me to conclude she wears it virtually all of the time. PS I don’t recall the source of this information and am not going to search for it.

 

[cody22]

What is SM?

Social Media.

 

[CheetosDust]

Waiting for my GoPro to upload, and this is my first time with YouTube so I won’t have video for you until tomorrow. But let me give you my thoughts on this:

What I really wanted to capture was the “feel” of Brooklyn that you can’t get from a map or even a street view. At this point I’m going to stop speculating until LE gives us some better info. My feeling, unequivocally, is that Mollie was not snatched off the streets of Brooklyn. Not during her run, not after, not at all.

Thank you so much for doing this!

 

[CheetosDust]

I take it there’s no new news today on Mollie?

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

Good morning everyone! Just wanted to thank Sharon Needles for the video posted after I went to bed last night. It gives people from other parts of the country (and world) a much better feel for the area, and I look forward to the walk-around video today. I value every member's input, but in these cases it is so beneficial to have locals on the board. Probably for almost all of us, it was one particular case, often local, that brought us here. For me, it was Brittanee Drexel because I live in NC, but have vacationed most of my life at Myrtle Beach. For those of you locals to the area that joined, thank you so much for caring about Mollie, and for your valuable input. However this case eventually is resolved, and we all pray that it will be, and with a good outcome, please consider sticking around this wonderful group of people that gather here. There are, and sadly always will be, so many more Mollies.
JMO

Thank you SteveP. Well said.

 

[HayLouise]

Mollie Tibbetts father says he feels the “collective force” of the nation’s prayer: “There’s a will to bring Mollie back and I subscribe to that. I think there’s real power in the ability to pull Mollie back from wherever she is so everybody pray...”

Matt Finn on Twitter

Mollie Tibbetts, missing Iowa student, has always relied on prayer, dad says

 

[cody22]

Do you mean by the perp?

It is possible. A "red herring" or possible form of taunting LE. Even if the perp tossed someone else's red shirt out, it could even lead back to him through his own or someone else's DNA..... It may backfire on him if it was a "red herring."

 

[Dudda]

Yes, download the xml file, edit said file with the appropriate timestamp in Unix epoch time, message content, etc, save it, and reupload it to your phone. This may be moot for legal purposes though, as the inserted message would not log to the message log on your phone bill.

I’m guessing 99% of the population wouldn’t be able to figure out the Unix epoch time. I have a kick SQL query for work stuff, but I’m thinking only us computer nerds even understand what any of this is.