Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #30

[Al Hoffman]

would you be kind enough to elaborate al little more please
I believe it was Mollie herself that was the reason. I wish we knew for sure on that first day, the day before that evening after work, if she went for a walk/run as she did on the day she vanished.

To answer your questions about time and cell phones...Your phone is a low power transmitter/receiver. That is why there is a cell system across the U.S. Small cell areas with an antenna tower and a more powerful re-transmitter in range to receive, boost and send on your phone's signal. The cell tower/cell service provider's computer does not care what time your phone thinks it is, it will simply record what time it processed the call from your cell phone number. These time hacks are very accurate, down to a small fraction of a second; this is part of what allows LE to triangulate the position of a cell phone between multiple towers. I hope this helps.

 

[sripey]

Not if they have reason not to.

And what would that reason be?

 

[1987]

battery died , the phone was powered all the way down..not sitting there ready to use... really turned off
That is what i think happened on the way home, back to the house . her phone died no charge no power left in it whatsoever. and that is why it stopped pinging. But just speculation of course. thank you for your response. not owning a cell phone i was not sure how the pinging process worked.

that is the page we are all on I think.

 

[DancingMuse]

I can think of several in the last couple of years right in my state. Probably happens all the time.

I think here's one Alathea and i'm-someone, 2013.
Accidentally drove into the bayou, returning home from a party:
Drowning.
Autopsy confirms body found in bayou is missing Louisiana teacher's - CNN

 

[jobid]

Are there any cases we know of where there was a missing child or woman and it turned out to be an accident? I've seen it brought up before but I can't think of a case where this turned out to be true.

I think Jill Berhman may have started as an accident...

 

[SharonNeedles]

We’re a month into this now and LE still hasn’t given us anything to suggest Mollie didn’t just up and leave on her own. No, I don’t think that’s probably what happened - but any speculation that something happened is at best based on what we think LE knows. Speculation based on speculation. We’re getting nowhere, but some of these crazy ideas would make a good movie.

 

[DocBrew]

Then why not the Pilot truck stop?

Exactly.

 

[SteveP]

I can think of several in the last couple of years right in my state. Probably happens all the time.

A case I followed here, from New Orleans...a teacher named Terrilynn Monette. Took about a month to find that she had driven her car into a lake and drowned. Sad case.

 

[Alethea]

Toni Anderson. There have been multiple cases of people found in their cars in bodies of water or off cliffs/ravines too.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I mean cases where a 3rd party kills someone accidentally (with no criminal intent) and covers it up. The only cases like that I can think of were really felony murder, not an accident. Felony murder can be charged when someone dies during the commission of a felony. So if the victim dies during an armed robbery or a rape, it can be charged as murder even if the person did not intentionally kill anyone.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

And what would that reason be?

Like say if there were 4 different vehicles who may have been at the car wash during the time she may have run by. They wouldn’t just put all 4 out to the public, especially if 3 were likely innocent, in a small town bc that may start a witch hunt.

 

[otto]

The only sticking point I have with LE only having her route is that they would likely not have been so definitive about including the truckstop as a point on the map if they didn't have a pretty good idea that a vehicle came from there. And if they knew the vehicle came from there then they also would've had to have seen the vehicle.

JMO.

Police have dots at three routes entering Brooklyn, and the truck stop might simply be one of those routes.

 

[Alethea]

I am not the original poster, but I think they may have been replying to the post right above theirs that was commenting on the possibility that someone accidentally hurt Mollie and a parent or someone else in town helped them cover it up.

I tried to multiquote but it doesn’t look like it worked.

Thanks, that's exactly what I mean. I was wondering if this is coming up because of a case I didn't follow or if it's just conjecture.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

GPS is a battery hog. A phones' GPS is typically only used by certain apps. A phone will periodically send GPS on its own for things like "Find My Phone", but it is not providing a constant GPS stream like a Fitbit does when it's in an 'activity mode'. When a phone is pinging off of cell towers it is not providing GPS data.

Anything involving cell sites communication, wifi, non-BLE Bluetooth and GPS (and variations) eat a smartphone's battery for breakfast, lunch AND dinner.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I mean cases where a 3rd party kills someone accidentally (with no criminal intent) and covers it up. The only cases like that I can think of were really felony murder, not an accident. Felony murder can be charged when someone dies during the commission of a felony. So if the victim dies during an armed robbery or a rape, it can be charged as murder even if the person did not intentionally kill anyone.

Oh yeah. Happens all the time. Here’s a few:

2 SC men charged with covering up overdose victim's death

Villa Ridge Man Attempted to Cover Up Overdose Death

Police: 2 Arrested In Overdose Death Cover-Up, Theft From Deceased

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ab...after-jailed-teen-died-from-overdose.html/amp

 

[otto]

Me too. I go back and forth between some sort of accident or some type of acquaintance abduction...

At which of the locations on the police map might this have happened?

 

[mtnlites]

Are there any cases we know of where there was a missing child or woman and it turned out to be an accident? I've seen it brought up before but I can't think of a case where this turned out to be true.

Cheryl Miller and Pamela Jackson were treated as possible abductions. It took them 41 years before they discovered their car in a creek

Not quite the same, but the local sheriff there in NM made fairly recent statements about Tara Calico; he claimed that he had info showing that her disappearance was an accidental hit and panic. He has never produced the evidence.

Michael Henley was treated as an abduction and his body was later found close to where he went missing. COD exposure.

LE was confident that Tanya Rider's husband was responsible for her disappearance-it was a car wreck.

 

[cluciano63]

Jmo LE has stated what she was wearing to the best of their knowledge. It is important because they are trying, belatedly, to make people remember back to that evening. Not what she might possibly have on now, if alive.

 

[:+:MrTT:+:]

that is the page we are all on I think.

yes, but i am one of those whom believe for now that she made it back to the house and sent that snapchat and something after 10pm when he opened it happened. Though i know this is not the main line of thinking. But i wonderrd if her phone simply died and the battery went dead on her way back and that is why it stopped pinging after the last one. thank you again.

 

[TL4S]

And what would that reason be?

I'm not sure. Maybe they don't know, or don't want to draw suspicion to the perp and make him run, or they have the perp in custody on an unrelated charge and are gather evidence before formally charging. Or none of the above...

 

[Kapua]

We’re a month into this now and LE still hasn’t given us anything to suggest Mollie didn’t just up and leave on her own. No, I don’t think that’s probably what happened - but any speculation that something happened is at best based on what we think LE knows. Speculation based on speculation. We’re getting nowhere, but some of these crazy ideas would make a good movie.

Logic suggests that Mollie didn't leave on her own, IMHO.
1. Mollie didn't have a car. If she left on her own, she'd have to walk or catch a ride with someone. There are no busses or passenger trains in Brooklyn.
2. She didn't take her contacts or glasses.
3. She was in her running clothes and no other clothes have been confirmed missing.
4. She didn't take her wallet, ID or any money. No way she could survive w/o money for a month.
5. She had a great relationship with her family. She would not put them through what they have gone through this past month. IMHO.
6. She had a loving boyfriend.
7. She had wonderful friends.
8. She was taking a summer class.
9. She was planning to return to college in the fall.
MOO.