Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #30

[RavenCC2020]

I took a few days off here and was following the SW thread so I am behind. To do a quick catch up last night I played Nancy Grace's podcast of 8/16 on MT case. I am going to listen to it again to make sure I got it right because I was starting to fall to sleep but she said something about LE stating they believe they will have MT back within 10 days (of the 16th) and that the person had been involved in the search and attended the vigil for MT. Is this just hype on Grace's part or LE's or is there anything concrete to it. I see her dad has left for home and the discussion here still centers around the same unknowns as before which leads me to think nothing has changed.

The podcast can be heard here for Aug 16th
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

 

[jillycat]

She's 20. No matter what happened, if she is alive people are resilient. She sounds extremely resilient. She has a psychology background. She has a huge family network. If anyone could recover from whatever, it would be someone with those traits/background as long as there is not some sort of major brain damage rendering a person incapable.moo

Even if psychology classes, or even a PhD, could prepare one for abduction and captivity and the deprivation and abuses that are part of such a horror, she was a freshman at UI and entering her second year where she was likely still taking core university courses. She's only 20 years old. I think a public narrative about her has morphed into a heroine image that flies in the face of the extremely high chance that she had few or zero options in saving herself.

 

[Chichi baby]

That's it!!!! Thanks so much!!!!

Welcome..

 

[ab01]

Also keep in mind that triangulation off rural wireless towers is not as precise as in more populated urban areas. Find my phone would be accurate, if they were able to utilize that function.

This is very true, less towers= bigger areas to cover

 

[Bravo]

I dunno as far as this case being at a stall. Mollie's Dad and Family returning to normal routines to me just seems "normal" Her Dad has stated several times at Presser's LE is not sharing with Family. What else at this point could the Family do? If LE has questions for them they know where they are. I'm leaning that they are progressing. Whether it will lead to finding Mollie or charges against who "may" have done this is another matter. I think LE would give the public a tiny bit more if they had hit the wall. IMO

 

[rosesfromangels]

You make a good point, but, if they were so damned smart, so able to do this and that and what they boast about, WHY haven't they found Mollie yet?

Because the human beast is unpredictable.

 

[HelpingHeart]

While I agree with you that she likely went missing on her run, sometime before 9:00 p.m., there is another scenario. While on her run she has a Eureka moment about her schoolwork, perhaps while listening to a lecture on her iPhone, and gets back to DJ's house 8:30ish. She sits down at the keyboard, without taking off any of her sweaty running gear or armband in her rush to bang out her epithany. 9:30ish she realizes that she still has to go by her mom's to pick-up the car and a red work shirt for the next day. She sends DJ a SC @ 9:45, and walks out the door to jog to her mom's. She is taken shortly after leaving the house, leaving her final digital footprint as she is taken South past the hog farm near Guernsey around 10:00 p.m., on the way out of town, headed towards the Southern most red dot on LE's map of areas of interest.

I had a similar thought. Or she was just taken inside her home by someone who watched her go home from her run. I do feel she went home though, as her family stated:

Mollie Tibbetts, the 20-year-old University of Iowa student who vanished earlier this month after heading out for a jog, may have returned to her boyfriend’s house, and evidence reportedly suggested she was doing homework late on the night she disappeared.

Family members told local CBS affiliate KCCI the new information on Saturday, but authorities did not give any new timeline — in order not to hurt the search.

 

[Mr. Obvious]

Mr. Obvious?

No - it was someone that posted yesterday/or Friday - I will see if I can find it.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Accurate Location Detection

Using cell towers to detect location is not as accurate as GPS.
Locating a mobile phone based on a single cell tower
can place the mobile phone in a broad area, but it cannot pinpoint it.
As the phone connects to more towers, the accuracy improves.
By using cell tower triangulation (3
towers), it is possible to determine a phone location to within an area of about ¾ square mile. I
n densely populated urban areas, the cell towers are close together, and a much closer estimation of phone location can be made than in a rural area, where the towers are far apart.
If the nearest cell tower is busy, the cell signal would be picked up by the next nearest tower which
could decrease location accuracy to beyond ¾ square mile
or 30 meters of that cell tower.
Sometimes, the diverted signal may go to a cell tower that is out of the PSAP’s jurisdiction.

https://transition.fcc.gov/pshs/911/Apps Wrkshp 2015/911_Help_SMS_WhitePaper0515.pdf

 

[rebel123]

Three things stand out for me; the search was called off relatively quickly by LE, the FBI took over the investigation pretty quickly and a reward fund was set up within the first week. For me that rules out some scenarios.

 

[oldtxlady]

The living outcome is the best outcome IMO.

to each their own...for family I am sure the being alive in any condition is best, for a person themselves, I don't know, for me I think there are worse things than death.

If Mollie is still alive and comes home, her dad will pull her up by her boot straps, and help her keep putting one foot in front of the other until she's able to get back to living and enjoy life. He'll make sure of that. I also think he'll wrap up his life in Cali and move to Iowa and search for her until he finds her. They were close and he's not going to be able to rest until he does.

 

[buggiegirl]

Three things stand out for me; the search was called off relatively quickly by LE, the FBI took over the investigation pretty quickly and a reward fund was set up within the first week. For me that rules out some scenarios.

Like?

 

[MsBetsy]

I posted a new one this morning. It would be nice to have a reference post including ALL mapped routes to compare.

Maybe Otto can do that. Good idea. Or someone else with the technical capabilities.

 

[Mr. Obvious]

No - it was someone that posted yesterday/or Friday - I will see if I can find it.

Post #775; thread =29. 18 August

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

An interesting series of events occurred on this thread last evening, just before the overnight close-down. Those events led me to believe LE has something in the works, that they're focused on a particular scenario and are in process of implementing specific tactics. I will not respond to inquiries regarding this post because those posts from last evening regarding this particular topic were deleted from the thread... and those posts were not violations of TOS.

Something's up... and here's to hoping it works.

No offense and maybe you are on to something, but the first I think of with a post like this is the silence/lack of info from LE has finally broken the poster.

 

[rebel123]

Like?

Like the three things I pointed out in my post; you might need a magnifying glass to spot them!!

 

[rebel123]

I dunno as far as this case being at a stall. Mollie's Dad and Family returning to normal routines to me just seems "normal" Her Dad has stated several times at Presser's LE is not sharing with Family. What else at this point could the Family do? If LE has questions for them they know where they are. I'm leaning that they are progressing. Whether it will lead to finding Mollie or charges against who "may" have done this is another matter. I think LE would give the public a tiny bit more if they had hit the wall. IMO

I think LE are sharing a lot more with the family then we think; they are cautioned on comments they make to the media. The dad even said that on CNN interview. The family has been very visible more then I've seen in other missing persons cases.

 

[MsBetsy]

Even if psychology classes, or even a PhD, could prepare one for abduction and captivity and the deprivation and abuses that are part of such a horror, she was a freshman at UI and entering her second year where she was likely still taking core university courses. She's only 20 years old. I think a public narrative about her has morphed into a heroine image that flies in the face of the extremely high chance that she had few or zero options in saving herself.

Wow. You said it so much better than I did!!!

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Like the three things I pointed out in my post; you might need a magnifying glass to spot them!!

I don't understand what you mean.

 

[SteveP]

I took a few days off here and was following the SW thread so I am behind. To do a quick catch up last night I played Nancy Grace's podcast of 8/16 on MT case. I am going to listen to it again to make sure I got it right because I was starting to fall to sleep but she said something about LE stating they believe they will have MT back within 10 days (of the 16th) and that the person had been involved in the search and attended the vigil for MT. Is this just hype on Grace's part or LE's or is there anything concrete to it. I see her dad has left for home and the discussion here still centers around the same unknowns as before which leads me to think nothing has changed.

The podcast can be heard here for Aug 16th
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Bombshell tonight! I take everything Nancy Grace says with a grain of salt, if not the entire shaker. What facts she does get right, you could usually read here days before. The rest is usually just sensationalism and her talking over whoever else is on her show. JMO