Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #31

[otto]

You don't know that because of the snap chat pic she sent to boy friend.

What don't we know because of a SnapChat?

From police, we know that Mollie Tibbetts was last seen jogging in Brooklyn, Iowa in the evening hours of July 18. There have been no credible sightings of, or communications with, Mollie since that time.

 

[Parks]

Totally agree regarding speculation. It's one thing to take the known facts and try to build on them, it's something else altogether to imagine a scenario that is not anchored by any facts.

For example, we know that:

"Mollie was last seen jogging in Brooklyn, Iowa in the evening hours. There have been no credible sightings of, or communications with, Mollie since that time." (https://findingmollie.iowa.gov/)​

This means that all communication from Mollie stopped while she was jogging, not at the house-sit, but while she was jogging. Speculation should include the fact that she was last seen, or disappeared, while jogging.

So, then taking you are taking “or communications with” to include her Fitbit or phone ping, not Mollie specifically? When I originally read that, I took it as communication between her and another person. i.e the text with mom about jogging and dinner, so nothing after that and being seen while jogging.

 

[Trident]

I feel strongly that the car wash is not a point of interest because somebody cleaned up there after a crime. The crimes we're worried about don't HAVE to be messy. And any vehicle in that area that regularly travels off pavement is likely dirty, inside and out, often.

Very true. Perhaps the crime was not commited yet, just a clean up after a days work.

 

[SheriBerry]

Is it safe to assume that WC passed the polygraph?

 

[1987]

Is it safe to assume that WC passed the polygraph?

I don't think it is safe to assume anything yet.

 

[TL4S]

Very true. Perhaps the crime was not commited yet, just a clean up after a days work.

Or a vehicle in question was captured on car wash's video camera.

 

[sripey]

You don't know that because of the snap chat pic she sent to boy friend.

Did you notice the part saying "no communications" from the time she was last seen?

 

[PaulR]

Is it safe to assume that WC passed the polygraph?

More so, LE looked at WC and they have not named him as a witness, suspect, POI, or anything. There's no evidence that he is at all connected to the disappearance of MT.

 

[otto]

So, then taking you are taking “or communications with” to include her Fitbit or phone ping, not Mollie specifically? When I originally read that, I took it as communication between her and another person. i.e the text with mom about jogging and dinner, so nothing after that and being seen while jogging.

I understand no credible communications with Mollie since she was jogging to mean that she did not initiate or accept any electronic communication since she left the house-sit to go jogging. We know that there is a digital signature 10 miles SE of Brooklyn, but the Fitbit paired with her cell phone can produce an automated signal.

 

[Trident]

What don't we know because of a SnapChat?

From police, we know that Mollie Tibbetts was last seen jogging in Brooklyn, Iowa in the evening hours of July 18. There have been no credible sightings of, or communications with, Mollie since that time.

Yes, there was, the pic the boy friend opened around 10 PM. Maybe I'm getting this wrong 'cause we don't know when the pic was taken. My point is, the BF saw the pic, taken when?, who knows. Later is my GUESS. Guesses ain't always good.

 

[CheetosDust]

Seriously I'm out on any talk of their being a full-size semi or cab only at the car wash. JMOFO

 

[kpm]

So, then taking you are taking “or communications with” to include her Fitbit or phone ping, not Mollie specifically? When I originally read that, I took it as communication between her and another person. i.e the text with mom about jogging and dinner, so nothing after that and being seen while jogging.

I tend to believe the last known verifiable physical contact was when her brother dropped her off, witnesses who claim to see her running can get days confused especially since it was days after LE took over, iirc

The last know communication was with her mother when she answered “ok” to dinner which was around 7:30.

The SC she sent her boyfriend is still in question to us since a send time has not been established only an open time has.

 

[DocBrew]

it is a mistake to assume anything about these folks based on appearance alone!

Or anyone else for that matter!

Also keep in mind that if a potential defendant has a high net worth, then LE would naturally be extra cautious if building a case against them (re: anyone with the means to lawyer up well and beat the charge).

JMO.

 

[SweetMeat]

If law enforcement is talking about an actual “ping”, regarding location, that comes from the phone and not the Fitbit. Cellular devices will ping every so many hours to let the network know the phone is on. When traveling the phone seeks out changing signal tower strength and will ping more often while searching for the tower with the strongest signal. GPS devices like Fitbit and other gps related apps even google use constant updating gps signals rather than pinging.

 

[ChiaPet]

JMO

I think the perp is female

She knows Mollie BUT I don’t think Mollie is particularly friendly with her or considers her a close friend BUT she’s close

She lives close by but not in Brooklyn

She feels Mollie interrupted her “plans” by coming home for the summer

MOO

I could see that. If MT's boyfriend had some sort of admirer she could be bothered by MT coming back for the summer, going on a romantic trip out of the country. DJ wouldn't necessarily have to even know the woman liked him or knew his schedule

 

[Trident]

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I ume nothing about these folks, but thanks for the answer. I come from country myself. Just curious what he was doing lately, didn't look into his bank account.

It was an honest question, hoping for an honest answer.

 

[kpm]

I could see that. If MT's boyfriend had some sort of admirer she could be bothered by MT coming back for the summer, going on a romantic trip out of the country. DJ wouldn't necessarily have to even know the woman liked him or knew his schedule

Right, he may not know this person is interested in him, but she has contact with him

 

[duster1979]

This information has been posted here before, but here it is again:

"This is a new arena for us. That's part of the reason we called the FBI in. It's probably pretty new to them, too," Mitch Mortvedt, spokesman for the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation, told CNN. "I don't know of another case here in Iowa where we have used specifically Fitbit info."

When her Fitbit pinged at a hog farm about 10 miles southeast of the house in Brooklyn, IA, where she was last seen, police searched the area but found nothing, Mortvedt said."

Everything We Know About The Disappearance Of Iowa College Student Mollie Tibbetts

I believe the word "ping" references a digital signature. Police admit that this is a "new arena" for them, and they may not use the best words to reference the digital evidence.

A "ping" in this case is a connection between a phone and a cell tower. The phone scans the area for signals every few minutes and will ping (register a connection) every few hours (actual time varies by provider). If during one of the scans the phone detects a stronger signal it will immediately ping the tower with the new signal. Usually this means that the phone has moved closer to the new tower, but it could also mean that the signal from the old tower was compromised for some reason.

What all this means in this case is that at some point Mollie's phone got a better signal from a tower on or near the hog farm than from the one she'd been connected with previously. Which could mean that she moved closer to that tower, but it could also mean that she passed through an area where something interfered with her signal from the original tower. For instance, her route might have placed something between her and the original tower than diminished that signal like a substation or a large metal building, causing her phone to reach out to the tower near the hog farm even though she wasn't that close to it.

 

[Parks]

I understand no credible communications with Mollie since she was jogging to mean that she did not initiate or accept any electronic communication since she left the house-sit to go jogging. We know that there is a digital signature 10 miles SE of Brooklyn, but the Fitbit paired with her cell phone can produce an automated signal.

I do believe she went missing the evening of her jog. I guess what I am trying to say, is since we don’t know what exact time the ping took place, she could have returned to DJ’s house, and then left again on foot to go to mom’s and still been abducted/harmed within the time window of interest. I don’t believe anything has been said by LE to exclusively say she went missing on jog. Just that no one heard from her after she went on the run.

 

[Hte2w8]

Is it safe to assume that WC passed the polygraph?

I don't think there has been anything one way or the other to allow that assumption. It would appear however, that LE have become less interested in him as a person of interest in this case.