IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #39

[jillycat]

Maybe there is a thread of goodness in him when he isn't stalking and preying on people. Maybe LE was able to pull at that thread a little in their interview and that's why he gave up the body. He certainly didn't have to.

He had nearly 5 weeks after he took her life so brutally, and just left her there, and by the time they got to her the postmortem indignities are too many to list.

I think it may be more a case of the path of least resistance and controlling when and how she was found, once he knew that they knew. I believe that if there was any shred of goodness in him once she was dead, it would have compelled him to see that her parents got to bring her home a lot sooner.

I wouldn't be surprised if LE pressured him to "be a man/do the right thing/let Mollie be laid to rest", and some of this is simply that he didn't want to look like the depraved soulless predator that he is to his community, so he talked - but conveniently continued to keep the details of what he did to her to himself. JMO

 

[DianeElaine]

Apart from the fact that LE observed the dark Chevy on the video a number of times on the day Mollie disappeared and in proximity to Mollie, what do we know about how they narrowed it down to CR driving the vehicle? He wasn’t the only one allowed to drive the vehicle, was he? Was the video good enough to be able to recognize him??

I’m certainly not doubting for one second that he’s the one that killed Mollie!!

 

[CheetosDust]

And there are fewer and fewer houses the closer you get to 200.

Yep.

 

[Tiger Stripes]

What is PC?

"Press Conference"! Ha!

 

[The Farm]

Apart from the fact that LE observed the dark Chevy on the video a number of times on the day Mollie disappeared and in proximity to Mollie, what do we know about how they narrowed it down to CR driving the vehicle? He wasn’t the only one allowed to drive the vehicle, was he? Was the video good enough to be able to recognize him??

I’m certainly not doubting for one second that he’s the one that killed Mollie!!

We still do not know who exactly the vehicle belonged to and LE was not able to see clearly who was driving it or the plate in the video. But the car had certain specific things on it that an officer recognized in the video as a vehicle that he had stopped a few weeks earlier. For what we do not know that yet either.

 

[Seattle1]

I see the attorney did a whole post on WC before he got this case, and mentioned that “the killer” had been caught and it turned out that WC had nothing to do with it. Why he defends, right to fair trial etc. All in reference to WC. He might want to walk back that killer statement.

Which attorney was it? There are 3 of them (former and 2 new ones). Thanks!

 

[CheetosDust]

This video gives you an idea of the surrounds Mollie was jogging in, not desolate at all

Ok, but up around that corner that he was pointing to it gets real desolate, real quick. He didn’t even go up 385.

 

[The Farm]

Good night all, see you tomorrow!

 

[Confusion]

I dont have a fitbit but one thing I am guessing is the perp was not smart enough to realize she had one on her wrist. I am guessing that he thought it was a regular watch.

At the risk of sounding a bit crude, how much time do you think he actually spent looking at her wrists during the interaction?

 

[Mercedes]

Just saw this article that defendant has NEW COUNSEL. Suspect in Mollie Tibbetts’ Murder Gets New Counsel, Waives Preliminary Hearing
Not sure if this has been discussed on here previously. Sorry in advance if this is a reposting of something others have previously posted.

Mollie Tibbetts case: Suspect Cristhian Rivera changes lawyers

So, it looks like Defendant won't be appearing in court on Friday.

I just saw that Atty Richards withdrew as counsel after the family privately retained this couple. They withdrew all of the prior motions Richards had filed. Apparently someone was disappointed in his approach to the case and quickly found someone else. Interesting.

 

[SteveP]

Which attorney was it? There are 3 of them (former and 2 new ones). Thanks!

Frese

 

[Mercedes]

Which attorney was it? There are 3 of them (former and 2 new ones). Thanks!

I believe he was being sarcastic and trying to point out that if everyone was so sure the pig farmer did it, and he didn’t, then people could also be wrong about Riveria committing the murder.

 

[TL4S]

He had nearly 5 weeks after he took her life so brutally, and just left her there, and by the time they got to her the postmortem indignities are too many to list.

I think it may be more a case of the path of least resistance and controlling when and how she was found, once he knew that they knew. I believe that if there was any shred of goodness in him once she was dead, it would have compelled him to see that her parents got to bring her home a lot sooner.

I wouldn't be surprised if LE pressured him to "be a man/do the right thing/let Mollie be laid to rest", and some of this is simply that he didn't want to look like the depraved soulless predator that he is to his community, so he talked - but conveniently continued to keep the details of what he did to her to himself. JMO

Well stated. I mean to show no mercy on him. My anger at CR goes beyond what TOS allows me to voice, but I'm reaching for various answers as to why he would give up the body. Their evidence against him is likely the best.

And honestly, without knowing what CR's father is like, I feel sorry for him, too. Imagine knowing your own child performed such a hideous act. Everybody loses in these situations.

 

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[castilloisno1]

Rivera’s Change in Legal Representation Likely a Strategic Move According to Legal Experts

 

[TeaTime]

He has an interpreter and a lawyer. He knows what is going on.

He led LEO to the body. He didn't leave because he didn't think he would get caught.

 

[Mercedes]

Rivera’s Change in Legal Representation Likely a Strategic Move According to Legal Experts

Someone probably thought it would be a good idea to add a female attorney to his defense team.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

I looked for some reaction but sadly saw nothing other than a brief change in facial expression around the discussion of DNA by the Judge. I really wonder if he understands what is happening to him? I realize the Judge asked this question of him in open court and he replied that he did understand but can he really understand? Another post spoke to the way of life he had in Mexico but I don't see much in his experience that would make him prepared to process this current experience? Initially I thought being in the US for a period of time might have provided him some knowledge and awareness. But by all accounts he didn't integrate into his local community and didn't seem to acquire much in the way of local language skills. Maybe what we saw in court was complete confusion and possibly terror due to lack of understanding? How did other people read the court appearance?

I agree with the possibilities of your statements, good thoughts all around. Regarding your second to last question whether "what we saw in court was complete confusion and possibly terror due to lack of understanding?", IMO absolutely not, he had a good command of the English language, had lived in the community for years (his sister went to high school with Mollie), and knew what he had done and what he was up for,and that his goose was cooked, and he was in pandering mode to the court/judge, like gosh gee willikers... just waiting for him to change his story to try to gain some sympathy. The facts remain he said to LE he followed her, approached her, and had her in the trunk of his car, and led LE to Mollie's body.... there's no getting around that IMO.

 

[Sarah J. Scott]

As a woman myself, I think this was very well written. I’d just like to add, I believe the choices I’ve made in these same senarios has definitely changed with becoming older and wiser.

I see both sides, really. I work in a heavily male-dominated area in a male-dominated industry. I have always been the only woman attorney on case teams. I've never been afraid or intimidated in speaking up, taking on leadership roles, and fighting for my spot at the table. But I don't jog or walk alone, I don't talk to strangers, I don't post personal information online, I don't do many things that women should be able to do safely but I am not personally comfortable doing. I know the statistics but I still ask myself do I want to risk the tiny chance of something happening - or more likely, me being uncomfortable - and the answer is usually no. I look up to women who don't feel that fear, but I am not one of them. I don't think that makes me some type of weak woman or a woman who is not concerned with equality and women having autonomy. It's just the level of risk I'm comfortable with.

 

[MistyWaters]

We still do not know who exactly the vehicle belonged to and LE was not able to see clearly who was driving it or the plate in the video. But the car had certain specific things on it that an officer recognized in the video as a vehicle that he had stopped a few weeks earlier. For what we do not know that yet either.

I don’t ever recall reading that the vehicle was stopped a few weeks earlier. Maybe this is what you’re thinking of?

“.....Police said Tuesday that the Malibu, which was caught on surveillence footage in Brooklyn, Iowa, was driving back and forth in the area where Tibbetts, a 20-year-old University of Iowa student, was running in the "late afternoon hours of July 18," the day she went missing.

"We were able to, first of all, see what we believed to have been Mollie running on one of the streets," Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation special agent Rick Rahn told Fox News. "From that, we started to look into all the vehicles that were also captured on video and eventually identified the vehicle that was driven by Mr. Rivera."

The surveillance footage in which the Malibu was seen was not able to capture the vehicle's license plates, but there were "unusual markings" on the car which helped lead investigators track it down, Rahn told said.
Mollie Tibbetts investigation: Chevy Malibu seen in surveillance video not registered to suspect Rivera, source says