IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #42

[claire_parker]

Thank you for saying this. I believe you’re spot on.

No way! He was stalking her and planned on abducting her that day. He is a sociopath and would do it again if he wasn't locked up. Don't blame all of this on having a bad day!

 

[glamourkitty1922]

and it is a terrible choice to murder someone in cold blood. there is nothing about the words "terrible choice" that implies triviality.

Personally it seems to minimize the actions of the monster, but hey, that's me. Your miles may vary.

 

[Chichi baby]

I totally agree with @Confusion. The most terrifying aspect of this case for me is that CR by all accounts seems to be a pretty good person. He's described as a caring and responsible father, a hard working and dependable employee, somebody with no criminal record - nobody really has anything bad to say about him. We all came here looking for a monster and I'm sorry if that's what you think you see, but everything about his life in Iowa is turning out to be pretty normal and unremarkable.

Obviously that changed very quickly and my heart breaks for Mollie and her family. And as a parent raising teenage girls in the area, this is truly the nightmare scenario for me. It was easier to think whoever did this to Mollie was some kind of creep, the kind of person we should know to stay away from. It's a lot harder to accept this could be... anybody. Never let your guard down, if this can happen here it can happen anywhere.

What? Are you serious? He took what he wanted, when he wanted it. He got a 17 year old girl pregnant whenhe could have been responsible and worn condoms. I'm sure IM didnt want to have a baby at her young age. What a fine upstanding young man? Here illegally, fake ids, no license, no insurance, nothing. Then he chooses to take a woman while jogging because he can. He thinks he is entitled. He set out to have sex by any means he had to. Thats it. Btw, i blocked out after my previous post because I was so angry and just now came to.

 

[MyBelle]

Looks like it's voluntary for parents to get a SSN# for newborns.

The Story of the Social Security Number

A SS# is required for all dependents on tax returns. In Illinois where my GD was born last year, the hospital required my daughter to fill out the paperwork and the hospital filed it.

 

[SharonNeedles]

The monster didn't live in the town of Brooklyn, he lived in the rural area. He also had access to a car. He is a sexual preditor. That puts him in the running. I haven't heard of any more assaults since the monster was caged.

He lived what, 2 miles from city limits in rural Brooklyn?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

I suppose the same could be said for anyone who breaks the law, regardless of their residency status.

Only if they MURDER someone.

 

[SharonNeedles]

Wasn't Mollie's body found in another county? Another LE jurisdiction sounds like a well-thought plan to me.

No, it was all in Poweshiek County.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

He lived what, 2 miles from city limits in rural Brooklyn?

Are you saying he didn't live in the rural area OUTSIDE the town limits?

 

[Tiger Stripes]

Why do you think the suspect would take such a roundabout route rather than drive the back roads directly to the body location?

(Just now doing a ton of catch-up reading of this thread, so someone else could have already replied to this...) Had CR taken Sharon Needles' M2 route, CR could have completely avoided passing the Pilot truck stop (near I-80), complete with the potential for either cameras (yet perhaps he took no thought of cameras, based on what we have already observed in retrospect) or being stopped for just "whatever" (i. e., a basic traffic violation -- say, a tail light out, etc.). Yet...if indeed CR *were* "blocked out" (from between MT's jogging route and the Guernsey farm location), then...how could CR have made the active decision to "avoid" specific areas or intersections? That would be a moot point, since his conscience also would be "blocked out". JMOO.

 

[MyBelle]

The number was valid, it just didn't belong to the monster. He stole someone's identity. It's a big business.

Yes, which is why I used the word, "fraudulent."

 

[Al Hoffman]

I agree. I don't know of any state that will issue any kind of license to someone who doesn't have a birth certificate and matching photo ID. And with the increase in employer audits, it was only a matter of time before CR was caught.

And the State issued non-DL ID cards are under the same increasing (Federal) scrutiny, as it too can get you on an airplane. If you start playing with fake State ID you can easily wind up on Homeland Security and Federal turf! It's not like it used to be before 9/11!

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Yes, which is why I used the word, "fraudulent."

But the company runs the number, it comes back as a valid number. They didn't use Everify which I believe requires both the proper name and number. They just used the SS site to verify the SS number was valid. So the user was fraudulent, not the number.

 

[CuriousCricket]

If he didn’t think killing was wrong he had no reason to hide the body in a cornfield or cover it with cornstalks. While LE was asking for information about Mollie’s disappearance, he chose to keep quiet. He knew what he did was wrong.

I agree with you. He did know what he did was wrong. However, playing devil's advocate, he could have hidden the body because to have left it out, to have carried Mollie to a hospital after his initial attack and injury of her, would have meant he and his family would be outed as illegals (do we know if his uncle is illegal also?) Was he required to carry the secret to protect his family?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

A SS# is required for all dependents on tax returns. In Illinois where my GD was born last year, the hospital required my daughter to fill out the paperwork and the hospital filed it.

What would the hospital do if she refused? Keep the baby? It's still voluntary.

 

[jillycat]

At the point that you can inflict multiple sharp force injuries and leave someone else's child lying dead under cornstalks for nearly 5 weeks, while her parents suffer, you are missing your empathy genes. Sorry, but there are a lot of moving parts to this, and he has yet to give up what he did to her, so he may not look like Freddie or Jason, but multiple times? She did nothing to him but appear on his radar as she was minding her own business. We don't even know if she had time to threaten using her phone, but even if she did, who thinks, "Then I better abduct you and take you off and stab you repeatedly before they get here."

 

[glamourkitty1922]

I still think his fake document have him older too, we don’t know were he was before except for his dad and uncle saying he has always been in Iowa because he had family there, his uncle works at the same dairy.

State – Iowa requires work permits for 14 and 15 year olds and recommends Certificates of Age for teens who are 16 and 17.

Federal – Work permits and Certificates of Age are not required, but are recommended from the state.

Minors who are 12 to 16 years performing migrant labor need a work permit.With a migrant labor work permit they may work:
– Between 5 a.m. and 7:30 p.m. from Labor Day through June 1
– Between 5 a.m. and 9 p.m. the remainder of the year


http://publications.iowa.gov/18470/1/iowateens.pdf

I notice there is no time left for school or play. How horrible.

 

[Al Hoffman]

Synonyms for "terrible"

Dreadful, awful, appalling, horrific, horrifying, horrible, horrendous, atrocious, abominable, deplorable, egregious, abhorrent, frightful, shocking, hideous, ghastly, grim, dire, unspeakable, gruesome, monstrous, sickening, heinous, vile;

Touche!

 

[claire_parker]

What? Are you serious? He took what he wanted, when he wanted it. He got a 17 year old girl pregnant whenhe could have been responsible and worn condoms. I'm sure IM didnt want to have a baby at her young age. What a fine upstanding young man? Here illegally, fake ids, no license, no insurance, nothing. Then he chooses to take a woman while jogging because he can. He thinks he is entitled. He set out to have sex by any means he had to. Thats it. Btw, i blocked out after my previous post because I was so angry and just now came to.

great post my feelings exactly!

 

[MyBelle]

No, it was all in Poweshiek County.

Thanks. Was the pig farm and areas LE searched also in Poweshiek County?

 

[Confusion]

I don't know if it's still being done now, but I know that years ago people would look through old newspapers (microfilms at the library, etc.) and find a baby who died around the time they were born. They'd then just order a copy of the birth certificate and use that to get a SS number, ID, license, etc. It was easy to do because birth records and death records weren't cross referenced anywhere. Are they now?