ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 67

[layer]

I'm still having a hard time trying to figure out why not the other 2 then? If it was planned, then surely he knew 2 others occupied the house too. Why were they left untouched?

When I go to a buffet I leave when I am full, knowing full well that there is still plenty of filet mignon left. He could have simply had his fill. Ted Bundy left several potential victims in the Chi Omega house, one who even stood staring at him as he walked out. She later pointed at him from the witness stand.

 

[XtremeScorpio]

Maybe. As I understand it and IMO. Animal hair can be any animal. Testing can tell them what animal and if a dog, what breed. If it is dog hair, and it is Murphy's breed, Nuclear dna testing can tell an individual dog. JMO

Review Article - Forensic Hair Comparison: Background Information for Interpretation - April 2009

archives.fbi.gov

Lab Uses Pet DNA to Track Down Killers, Solve Cold Cases

A team at an advanced lab in the Bay Area is tracking down killers and solving cold cases with a little help from everyday pets.

www.nbcbayarea.com

Forensic Science Communications - July 2004

archives.fbi.gov

edit: added third link for dog hairs - all the way at the bottom

But would they need nuclear testing if they had one of Murphys hairs to compare it to?

 

[esayer]

I think that got debunked

The trash was definitely put in the neighbor's bin. Video Idaho murders suspect was seen throwing out trash in neighbors' bins

 

[WildWest]

This was the dead dog's blood DNA, not from his hair.

Holy Cow if this is true

 

[al66pine]

Police Scanner.

@schooling
Yes, the site is called Broadcastify.
I didn't find any feeds for Latah County, but there are feeds for Whitman County and Pullman.

Whitman County Washington Live Audio Feeds

Whitman County Washington Live Audio Feeds

www.broadcastify.com

snipped for focus. @Auntie Cipation Thanks for this info.

So to listen to my city's or county's LE/Fire channels, can I use my Surface tablet (w'out getting the app, like for a smart phone? (Sorry to be dense.)

 

[Aquarian]

Or shaving injuries, as evidenced in BCK’s court appearance.

Before retirement, my better half would shower/shave at night. I was forever dealing with blood stains on the pillow cases & pillow protectors from his routine shaving.

Interesting — or not — no linens were listed as seized.

Well I am a visual person and this picture has long been bugging me bc I couldn’t figure out what this material was. But with all the talk of linen.., does anyone think this could be bed sheets? Or, is it LE drop sheets. I am referring to the clear bin LE is carrying down the exterior staircase and ontop is a bag of light blue linen.

IDAHO LATEST: Judge seals search warrant for Kohberger's apartment

Kohberger's apartment was combed by police for evidence at the time of his arrest. Court documents state 'compelling circumstances warrant the temporary sealing.' They will be released March 1.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[WingsOverTX]

Ahem, certainly seems like there was a lot of chaos/crime around BK there in Pullman, WA in the month surrounding the murders of X, E, M & K, IMOO:

• The evening before the night of the murders, there was a hit and run outside BK's apartment according to the MSM article (See link in self-quoted post above ^^) (BBM)
• The morning of the day BK left to drive back to PA with his father, there was a shooting death on his campus according to this MSM article (see link below) (BBM):

"Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger and his father mentioned a Washington State University shooting to an Indiana deputy during a traffic stop on their cross-country trip to Pennsylvania in mid-December, new bodycam footage reveals, along with the suspect's voice.

The encounter happened several hours before state police stopped the duo, and the same morning in which a Washington SWAT team killed an armed man after a standoff.

The Kohbergers do not appear to have been ticketed either time, and referred to the Washington incident as a "mass shooting," although only the suspect was shot."

(Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger's dad mentioned WSU SWAT shooting in new police bodycam). JMOO

Maybe but correlation does not equal causation, as every doctoral student who does research knows.

I am curious about the hit & run. I assume two vehicles were involved, not a vehicle & a pedestrian?

If not involved (surely we would know that by now), maybe BK was a witness?

Not sure of the relevance for including it in the article, otherwise.

JMO

 

[ChrisM]

Hi - I don't post really, but had a thought that I'd like to throw out and see what comments you guys might have. KB did kill these kids - didn't spare the two but was disciplined, times up, time to leave, sort of. The whole thing thoroughly planned, thought out, etc., but not planned to avoid being caught but planned not to see a conviction.
It's intriguing that no-one thinks he didn't do it, everyone wants to fry him, but maybe that's not of interest to him - maybe he's trying to prove that it doesn't mean anything to be charged with a crime if you don't get convicted. And maybe he's put this together with just enough confusion and doubt that he will not be convicted. Perhaps it's his statement/ perspective of the criminal justice system on a different level which would reconcile his doctoral intelligence with this inexplicable crime.
I don't know that I'm even making much sense LOL - but it crossed my mind...

I'm not convinced he did it.

I'm going back and forth. Today's 'unsealed' warrant info is relatively damning, though consistent with the entire episode, inconclusive, perhaps? The coupling of cell and video, and the various routes, and times etc., seem more than coincidental, but maybe not. If the details of the probable cause and warrant docs are accurate I'm beginning to feel that he did. What I'm having the most trouble understanding is why? I haven't read yet much that I'm inclined to accept. Also, I'm not sure why, but I'm sort of hoping he didn't - although obviously someone did it...

 

[Nova]

It goes both ways. I have seen acquittals that amount to outright juror nullification in some famous cases. But I have seen a lot of post-conviction juror interviews in which it is clear that they were weighing the evidence like it's a civil case - by a preponderance of evidence, rather than truly beyond a reasonable doubt. In some cases, they have even expressed reasonable doubts in their interviews after they voted to convict someone.

I think it's far more common than acknowledged that there is an attitude that the defendant must be quilty or they wouldn't be charging them. Decent citizens tend to side with LE over those accused of despicable crimes, it's just human nature. But the large number of post-conviction exonerations should weigh heavily on all of us, justice is never served by convicting innocent people.

JMHO

There does seem to be something about famous trials that makes jurors go a little wonky. Particularly if the defendant was a celebrity before the crime (which won't be an issue with BK).

I agree with you about jurors tending to side with LE, but I think it's out of self-interest more than decency. I think it scares us all to think LE is incompetent; it's much more comforting to assume those who protect us are good at it. That said, I've been on a jury where the defendant was acquitted because the eyewitness was impaired on the stand--we never knew why--and there was little circumstantial evidence.

But I've had good experiences on juries. I've also heard horror stories from others.

 

[layer]

After reading this Read Bryan Kohberger search warrant: New details about Idaho murder case

I’m feeling uneasy about one part in particular. “cuttings from an uncased pillow of a "reddish/brown stain," according to the warrant.

Makes my heart hurt. Could he have possibly cut out a piece of one of the girls’s pillow cases stained in her blood and kept it as a killing souvenir? I seriously don’t put this past him at all! I could be way off as well, but it was the first thing that came to mind.

My impression was that these cuttings were made from the pillowcase that was on his pillow. Could be mistaken, though. Zodiac cut bloody pieces of one victim's shirt and later mailed them to the newspaper.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Maybe he buys vegan approved bedding and takes it with him. Not kidding. JMO

I thought maybe he slept in a sleeping bag. Except the best ones are down-filled and that's prob not vegan.

 

[layer]

This was the dead dog's blood DNA, not from his hair.

Fair enough, try this one. And this one.

 

[XtremeScorpio]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615823540854431761

I have a hard time thinking of a possible reason why they wouldn't have taken his work computer or any other computerized equipment he would have worked on. I mean, there should have been something, right?

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Police Scanner.

snipped for focus. @Auntie Cipation Thanks for this info.

So to listen to my city's or county's LE/Fire channels, can I use my Surface tablet (w'out getting the app, like for a smart phone? (Sorry to be dense.)

Yes. I'm not even sure it's an app, though it probably is. I've only used it on the website myself.

If you go to broadcastify.com you'll see a map of the US (not sure if it covers any areas outside the US) and you can select a state and then a county, or search directly by the name of the feed if you know it.

When I listen the transmissions are often very staticky, and then the messages are in LE radio parlance (and they talk fast) so it's a challenge to understand what it means. With time and practice I've gained a little comprehension but not much.

 

[Copper107]

And out the door & beyond.

IMO wearing a protective "bootie" would not circumvent a shoe impression. The weight of the subject still leaves an impression, albeit it may be less discernable, but the impression is still there.

 

[r3d-ros3]

I have a hard time thinking of a possible reason why they wouldn't have taken his work computer or any other computerized equipment he would have worked on. I mean, there should have been something, right?

IMO, grad student offices usually don't provide computers and colleges themselves rarely provide computers or other equipment to grad students. As such, there would have been no work computer to seize. You get a desk and that's it, especially since this is a shared office, and you would be expected to bring a laptop and whatever else you might need when you plan to utilize the space.

 

[XtremeScorpio]

I agree -- I would be totally shocked, honestly, if the stains on his bed are related to the victims / crime.

While he could, as you say, shower and clean after the crime, it would be harder for him to purge any hairs or fibers that might have stuck to him or his clothing after the crime. Even shedding them in his car or apartment could have happened and he probably wouldn't have realized. Maddie, Kaylee, and Xana all had long hair and -- I speak from experience -- it's likely their apartment was covered with hair. The surviving roommates also had very long hair. If he managed to bring some back to his apartment, that would be very incriminating. IMO.

Unless he had a lint roller in his car. Not saying he was OCD but it appears he was very meticulous and sometimes those types of people do carry them in their car.

 

[Palinsmom]

you guys, they found a glove and a bloody pillow

Police find 'blood' on items in apartment of suspected Idaho killer

Unsealed court documents reveal that police investigating the murder of four University of Idaho students discovered several 'blood stains' in suspected killer Bryan Kohberger 's apartment.

www.dailymail.co.uk

YIKES! Let’s hope the blood/DNA doesn’t belong to a 5th unknown female !! All speculation on my part, thinking out loud

 

[wary]

But would they need nuclear testing if they had one of Murphys hairs to compare it to?

Because it’s a more precise form of identification than just saying: “Well, this hair looks like that hair.” Or did I misunderstand?

 

[TeaTime]

I am wondering what happened on and before August 23 to lure him into that neighborhood and hoping that Murphy saves the day.