ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Died in Apparent Homicide, Moscow, 13 Nov 2022

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  • #121
Rest in peace to the deceased.
What a terrible thing to happen .
They were all so young !
If it was murder -- and LE seem to be leaning that way -- how did the perp overpower four young adults ?

I'm way behind, and will go back and reread to see if it looked as if they were killed in their sleep, or if there was a struggle ?
Security cameras will also be vital in figuring out what happened.
So sorry for the person who found them, that will stay in their mind forever. :(
M00
 
  • #122
It looks like Kaylee & Maddie (Madison) were friends for most of their lives:

My condolences to the families & friends of the victims.
 
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No one is in custody. However, the city said it did not believe there is ongoing community risk based on the police’s preliminary investigation.
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Friends of the Chapin family said Ethan Chapin was beloved in his community. He was a triplet with one brother and one sister.
"You just couldn't ask for better kids," said neighbor Dave Hayton.



After graduating from high school, all three siblings decided to attend the University of Idaho.
Chapin and his brother were members of the same fraternity.

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The Moscow Police Department is asking anyone who may have information about the suspected homicides to call them at 208-882-COPS or 208-882-2677.
 
  • #126
<modsnip - quoted post had Twitter of private person embedded>
Hmmmm.....

Well, someone had a grievance against at least one of the victims.
Imo.
Were the other deaths collateral, as in the wrong place at the wrong time ?
So, "crime of passion" as in domestic dispute, or a romance that ended in a break up ?
This is the first time I've ever heard that the 'process of elimination' was used to determine this theory.
Or is it possible that LE have no clue yet, and are speaking to everyone who knew the four people ?
Just saying.
M00.
 
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  • #127
Locals have been talking on social media about the means used in the murders, but if I recall the rules correctly, I can only direct you to look and not post it here.
 
  • #128
This is such a mystery. I hope we get some answers soon.
 
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Since there were three women and one man, and since there is not thought to be a danger to the community, I wonder if this was a case of jealousy/ex-dating partner violence against the man and one of the women? Perhaps the other two women just happened to be there were not the targets? MOO.
 
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''The university also revealed some further details about the four students, who were all aged between 20 and 21:
  • Ethan Chapin was a freshman from Mount Vernon, Washington, and was a member of the Sigma Chi fraternity. He majored in recreation, sport and tourism management in the College of Education, Health and Human Sciences.
  • Xana Kernodle, was a junior from Post Falls majoring in marketing in the College of Business and Economics, and belonged to the Pi Beta Phi sorority.
  • Madison Mogen, was a senior from Coeur d'Alene majoring in marketing in the College of Business and Economics.
  • Kaylee Goncalves was a senior from Rathdrum majoring in general studies in the College of Letters, Arts and Social Sciences.''
''He added information could not be released "without jeopardizing the integrity of the investigation."
 
  • #131
Other people besides the victims lived at the home, correct? Is everyone accounted for? It seems like the victims were found by a "friend", possibly someone who also lived there and was returning home.
 
  • #132
MOO of course but the insistence of law enforcement that there’s no further threat leads me to believe the perpetrator is among the deceased.
I was thinking along the lines of murder-suicide at first, but changed my mind to overdose then a drugs/financial/love grudge hit, as I just couldn't envisage it from any of these young ones.

But, yes murder-suicide is possible, although they seem to have stated homicide only.

So I'm now back to thinking a drugs/financial/love grudge hit. But even that seems so unlikely.....

I'm sad. And confused. University students shouldn't be getting killed. In any way, shape or form. Just awful.

MOO.
 
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It looks like Kaylee & Maddie (Madison) were friends for most of their lives:

My condolences to the families & friends of the victims.

That IG is heartbreaking. Lifelong friendships aren't easy to maintain, and they seemed to care deeply about one another.

I teach at a uni as well as practice, and find campus crimes deeply upsetting, especially at this time of year. So much energy and engagement, such a volcanic and exciting time of life for so many -- and destroyed for what, exactly?

Like others here hoping for some answers and relief for those students and faculty/ staff still on edge, but the damage has been done.
 
  • #135
total movie madness theory here, but is Poisoning a possibility? I mean that would take a bit of stretch in my opinion but possible right? and a perp may not be a danger to others if he poisoned targets?
 
  • #136
A lot of rumors flying around among students and (I assume) locals. You'd think the police would want to provide a bit more info to the public. The conflicting messaging hasn't been very reassuring.
 
  • #137
total movie madness theory here, but is Poisoning a possibility? I mean that would take a bit of stretch in my opinion but possible right? and a perp may not be a danger to others if he poisoned targets?
Could it be fentanyl? Would they say homicide and charge whoever supplied the drugs? But I would say that would be a danger to the community.
 
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I keep going back to the initial report of responding to a report of an "unconscious" person at a location. It was a weird way to describe the situation if they were responding to the discovery of 4 obvious homicide victims.
 
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total movie madness theory here, but is Poisoning a possibility? I mean that would take a bit of stretch in my opinion but possible right? and a perp may not be a danger to others if he poisoned targets?
I wouldn't think so. Police very quickly said "homicide." So the manner of death must have been fairly obvious. Poisoning or OD would probably require an autopsy/toxicology to confirm and would take time.
 
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