ID - DeOrr Kunz Jr, 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #14

[kammiemc]

So you think that the sheriff's office didn't really refuse to comment about whether the parents were suspects? Like... Maybe the journalist just asked generally "Are there any suspects?" and the sheriff's office said they would not comment on that? I'm trying to think what the conversation really could have been for the journalist to twist it and make it sound so bad. And I don't think that the press have been sensationalist or accusatory towards the parents until that article - well, except for the coveralls and axe mention. Apart from that I have only seen the Msm present the parents as victims.

I was actually wondering about that. Wondering if the sheriff's office might have given a blanket "no comment" on the case, but instead it was worded to sound like a "no comment" to the specific question about whether the parents are suspects. There's no way to know for sure. But it would be pretty irresponsible reporting, IMO. In general, it seems like other reports (at least the ones I have seen) have only been supportive of the parents. This one hangs out there on its own.


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[Rayemonde]

They did have an officer commenting on other things in the article though, so I don't think it could have been a blanket "no comment".

 

[kammiemc]

They did have an officer commenting on other things in the article though, so I don't think it could have been a blanket "no comment".

It bothered me a bit that they used a catchy, fun phrase "gone baby gone" as a subhead to talk about DeOrr disappearing. Seems inappropriate/disrespectful in a news report. I guess I'm just not so sure about the professionalism of that piece. Just a feeling!


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[bessie]

They did have an officer commenting on other things in the article though, so I don't think it could have been a blanket "no comment".

Exactly! So why not put the question to him and publish a direct quote, like the many other direct quotes contained within the article?

 

[pepelepolecat]

That's the thing, I too would expect JM to strike back but she isn't. Note that the group isn't the "SM hate group" that had the C&D orders filed against it but another one. JM has been really taking part & answering questions and there has been no ill feelings in that group. Personally I'm glad she's doing this, beats the lack of info we've had to date [emoji4]

No, she's not being angry on that particular page. And she's handling herself quite well. But I don't think that any of that means she's not angry deep inside -- I get the feeling she's channeling it in a productive way. That takes a lot of strength and character to do, btw.

Again -- all speculation and definitely just my opinion.

 

[ILOKAL]

It bothered me a bit that they used a catchy, fun phrase "gone baby gone" as a subhead to talk about DeOrr disappearing. Seems inappropriate/disrespectful in a news report. I guess I'm just not so sure about the professionalism of that piece. Just a feeling!


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I didn't read the article being discussed (I don't think), so could somebody please post the link?

 

[pepelepolecat]

to be fair, the baby announcement video was from April of 2014.... (at least I think that's what folks are referring to?)

Given that we don't know the circumstances of the pregnancy, I think it's incredibly harsh to judge him as uncaring or inappropriate because he was happy about a new baby. Many people struggle for years to get pregnant. And tbh, he's still got a private life regardless of what else is going on in the news. Unless he made his baby announcement during a report on DKjr, I'm really baffled as to why people would object.

And if it is indeed the 2014 one, I find it even stranger that people are voicing objections.

Link: [video=youtube;RvzcKeU04Ok]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvzcKeU04Ok[/video]

 

[Mickshawn]

Cannot remember...Are we allowed to talk about GGP's friend? Yes or no?

 

[ILOKAL]

I found the article. To me it sounds like a compilation of "information" from previous articles/stories. Regarding the "no comment" it just states the Sheriff's "Office" was unable to comment. That might just mean that whomever The Journal spoke with was not in a position to comment (unauthorized to do so?). The wording, however, is deliberate yet could be entirely incorrect and misleading. JM's mother does, however, go after the Sheriff regarding the search. I think there may be some dissension between the family and SB because of some inadequacies of the search which must really sting SB.

 

[Rayemonde]

Cannot remember...Are we allowed to talk about GGP's friend? Yes or no?

I think we're allowed to talk about him because he was named in Msm, but we're not allowed to sleuth him or accuse him of anything.

 

[kammiemc]

I didn't read the article being discussed (I don't think), so could somebody please post the link?

It is posted just a bit upthread.


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[Rayemonde]

I found the article. To me it sounds like a compilation of "information" from previous articles/stories. Regarding the "no comment" it just states the Sheriff's "Office" was unable to comment. That might just mean that whomever The Journal spoke with was not in a position to comment (unauthorized to do so?). The wording, however, is deliberate yet could be entirely incorrect and misleading. JM's mother does, however, go after the Sheriff regarding the search. I think there may be some dissension between the family and SB because of some inadequacies of the search which must really sting SB.

I also thought that there is probably some friction between Sb and the family, but I think he would understand that it wasn't personal and wouldn't hold it against them.

 

[Deleted member 718]

It bothered me a bit that they used a catchy, fun phrase "gone baby gone" as a subhead to talk about DeOrr disappearing. Seems inappropriate/disrespectful in a news report. I guess I'm just not so sure about the professionalism of that piece. Just a feeling!


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I found the poll at the bottom of the article particularly distressing. It's not like we're voting on our favorite flavor of ice cream. smh

 

[Mickshawn]

I think we're allowed to talk about him because he was named in Msm, but we're not allowed to sleuth him or accuse him of anything.

What "exactly" is the definition of "sleuth" ??(This is my first experience here).

My question about him: Do we know if he knows any of the RSOs in the area?

If that's not allowed to ask, please edit it out (but don't throw me out of here...I'm still learning)

 

[desert-blue]

Given that we don't know the circumstances of the pregnancy, I think it's incredibly harsh to judge him as uncaring or inappropriate because he was happy about a new baby. Many people struggle for years to get pregnant. And tbh, he's still got a private life regardless of what else is going on in the news. Unless he made his baby announcement during a report on DKjr, I'm really baffled as to why people would object.

And if it is indeed the 2014 one, I find it even stranger that people are voicing objections.

Link: [video=youtube;RvzcKeU04Ok]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvzcKeU04Ok[/video]

http://www.cambio.com/2014/04/26/corny-or-cute-couple-uses-taylor-swift-song-to-announce-new-baby/

They lived in Virginia at the time - I think it was before East Idaho News even started. Not sure what the fuss is about either.

 

[Rayemonde]

What "exactly" is the definition of "sleuth" ??(This is my first experience here).

My question about him: Do we know if he knows any of the RSOs in the area?

If that's not allowed to ask, please edit it out (but don't throw me out of here...I'm still learning)

We're not allowed to try to dig up information on him - look up his criminal record or Facebook profile, that sort of thing.

If you've got a theory, it's best to talk in general terms rather than make accusations about people who might be innocent. For instance, could someone have known that Deorr was going to be at the campsite and tipped off a RSO in the area?

 

[kammiemc]

They did have an officer commenting on other things in the article though, so I don't think it could have been a blanket "no comment".

I will add that there's no way to know that the reporter's interpretation is flat out wrong for certain until it's clarified; I'm just taking it with a huge grain of salt because the wording seems a bit iffy. (But one thing I definitely don't see as a possible explanation for the reporter's wording is that SB would encourage his department to answer such questions with ambiguity because he is upset that a family member criticized an aspect of the search. That seems improbable, IMO. )


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[Dee10]

When we camp, I'm happy anytime I can get my kids to eat something warm. French fries, imo, are better than a bag of cheetos. Again, that's just me.
But...Are we certain DeOrr even HAD french fries? I don't remember how that even came up. Does anyone have a link that proves the parents gave him fries? I mean fries, specifically. Did that just come up to prove he was actually at the Stage Shop? I can't find a link.

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I don't have the link, but IIRC it was the last video interview of Frank V. who mentioned the fries.

 

[Lilibet]

We're not allowed to try to dig up information on him - look up his criminal record or Facebook profile, that sort of thing.

If you've got a theory, it's best to talk in general terms rather than make accusations about people who might be innocent. For instance, could someone have known that Deorr was going to be at the campsite and tipped off a RSO in the area?

BBM

I will just add to Raymonde's excellent explanation and say that obviously we can sleuth privately and dig up information to hold onto without posting. If a person is ever named as a suspect (and sometimes a POI--check with a mod first), we can then post the info we've previously gathered and hit the ground running. JMO

 

[pappa rob]

We're not allowed to try to dig up information on him - look up his criminal record or Facebook profile, that sort of thing.

If you've got a theory, it's best to talk in general terms rather than make accusations about people who might be innocent. For instance, could someone have known that Deorr was going to be at the campsite and tipped off a RSO in the area?

As I read the TOS you can dig up what ever you want, you cannot discuss it here until it's reported in an MSN news report.