ID - DeOrr Kunz Jr, 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #8

[babyback]

If the clerk recognized the child she saw at 6 pm as baby DeOrr, there would be a giant abduction investigation and an Amber Alert.

An old man staring at a pretty baby doesn't raise any flags for me. It is normal behavior and he is likely not a stranger in the area, so he was ID'd by LE. PI doesn't know who he is, but LE isn't telling him anything.

Just my opinion. Yours may differ.

You're absolutely correct. My mind wasn't even going in that direction. Honestly, sometimes I think that Amber Alert is handled wrong, but in some instances like this one, perhaps it's a good thing. Omg, where are you Little DeOrr? We are all racking our brains, please be safe where ever you are little one.

 

[kammiemc]

The parents have discounted the 6pm sighting. the PI said they were in the store and bought french fries.. so far, no clerk has come forward to say anything about any other confirmed sighting besides the really filthy, bawling blonde boy and a man in a black truck.

Was the baby EVER in the store at any time? A question to ponder. jmo

Good question. The local media certainly doesn't know of, or at least is not sharing any reports of sightings of the family in town. And they seem pretty proactive about getting interviews--IR, the owner of the Silver Dollar, etc.
There are not very many places they could have been--the restaurant, the store and I think there is one more hunting supplies store.

I'm so baffled that no one has provided a timeline. Not the family, not LE, not the media. Fingers crossed for the FBI. This little sweetheart needs to be found.

 

[SweetT]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but so far LE has said
Parents not involved
Don't believe there was an abduction
Don't believe Mountain lion theory
Dont think baby is on the mountain
Dont think baby is in the water
What do they think? This leaves little other options right?

 

[babyback]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but so far LE has said
Parents not involved
Don't believe there was an abduction
Don't believe Mountain lion theory
Dont think baby is on the mountain
Dont think baby is in the water
What do they think? This leaves little other options right?

They don't believe there was an abduction, but then in another breath they can't rule it out, WHAT? I'm not LE bashing, it is what it is, but REALLY? Which is it then? And yes, what other options are there if all of those things have been ruled out. He wasn't beamed up.

 

[wondering25]

If the clerk recognized the child she saw at 6 pm as baby DeOrr, there would be a giant abduction investigation and an Amber Alert.

An old man staring at a pretty baby doesn't raise any flags for me. It is normal behavior and he is likely not a stranger in the area, so he was ID'd by LE. PI doesn't know who he is, but LE isn't telling him anything.


Just my opinion. Yours may differ.

And why wouldnt someone do a composite drawing of this man if there was even a shred of concern there? The PI and LE would be clamoring for this, I would think. jmo

 

[babyback]

And I also can't get my mind to stop thinking about the fact that the dogs kept coming back to the campsite.

 

[travelbug]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but so far LE has said
Parents not involved
Don't believe there was an abduction
Don't believe Mountain lion theory
Dont think baby is on the mountain
Dont think baby is in the waterbut
What do they think? This leaves little other options right?

BBM This was the statement made shortly after the search. Subsequent to that statement LE has assigned the status of "POI" to each of the members of the camping group. That doesn't make JM, DK Sr., IR or GGP a suspect, or guilty of anything, but it does leave open the possibility of some type of knowledge or involvement with the disappearance. :moo:

 

[Inthedetails]

And I also can't get my mind to stop thinking about the fact that the dogs kept coming back to the campsite.

Sort of like we all do. We sniff around possible theories and follow paths... and come right back to the campsite with nothing.


JMO.

 

[wondering25]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but so far LE has said
Parents not involved
Don't believe there was an abduction
Don't believe Mountain lion theory
Dont think baby is on the mountain
Dont think baby is in the water
What do they think? This leaves little other options right?

Maybe not a stranger abduction.. there are still the other 2 POI in the mix. At the end of the day, I feel those parents loved their baby. But pressures of various types can do people in. We have all seen situations where one lies and the other swears to it...and sometimes they "swear to it" because they believe the liar and they have been duped. I think it may be something along those lines.. JMO

 

[babyback]

I've read here in the forum, that there were 3 vehicles driven up to the campsite. We have 4 people at the campsite, so who drove?

 

[ILOKAL]

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I've read here in the forum, that there were 3 vehicles driven up to the campsite. We have 4 people at the campsite, so who drove?

I don't think you read that here as fact. I think that was from a FB rumor someone posted. I might be wrong but that's what I recall.

 

[Onebest]

And I also can't get my mind to stop thinking about the fact that the dogs kept coming back to the campsite.

This was also on report from a specific time frame and I would guess they were referring to live find dog? its not clear to me if it was a trailing dog or scent specific air scent? but we then we would not be informed on the exact search plan.

Hard to say what has been done since. They could be working cadaver dogs farther out from the camp or the reservoir area since then. We don't know.

 

[katydid23]

I've read here in the forum, that there were 3 vehicles driven up to the campsite. We have 4 people at the campsite, so who drove?

I thought it was 2 vehicles and a camper trailer being pulled by one. The black truck was driven by the parents, with son in car seat. And an SUV was driven by either GGp or friend, with trailer attached. JMO

 

[ILOKAL]

Good question. The local media certainly doesn't know of, or at least is not sharing any reports of sightings of the family in town. And they seem pretty proactive about getting interviews--IR, the owner of the Silver Dollar, etc.
There are not very many places they could have been--the restaurant, the store and I think there is one more hunting supplies store.

I'm so baffled that no one has provided a timeline. Not the family, not LE, not the media. Fingers crossed for the FBI. This little sweetheart needs to be found.

IMO the PARENTS HAVE provided a timeline.

 

[kammiemc]

IMO the PARENTS HAVE provided a timeline.

What is it? Arrival on Thurs night or arrival on Fri?

 

[ILOKAL]

And grandma has provided another one by rumor, as far as FB.

I haven't actually seen this one in print at FB because I haven't been following along there, but many have been. I also know that FB posts can't be brought here. I just know what I've read here at WS.

How can the Grandma provide a timeline? She wasn't there and they don't live with her. She has no first hand information.

 

[ILOKAL]

What is it? Arrival on Thurs night or arrival on Fri?

Friday, just like the parents said.

 

[ninij9]

lol 2 YR OLDS are not always on their best behavior I see ppl all the time stare at kids with the parents esp if they are making a fuss. lol This is why I say I wonder what Deorr was doing. LOL
My 2 yr old was a trip. I don't know how I lived thru it!

Every person in every store I ever went into with my children when they were toddlers, learned their names by the time we left due to my pleading with them to behave lol.

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[kammiemc]

If the clerk recognized the child she saw at 6 pm as baby DeOrr, there would be a giant abduction investigation and an Amber Alert.

An old man staring at a pretty baby doesn't raise any flags for me. It is normal behavior and he is likely not a stranger in the area, so he was ID'd by LE. PI doesn't know who he is, but LE isn't telling him anything.

Just my opinion. Yours may differ.

How do we know that LE even took that lead seriously enough to try to ID the guy? Or that they were even told about it? For some reason the staring guy one month later rings hollow to me. The PI grasping for anything.

 

[desert-blue]

The first time I heard this interview I thought she was referring to the man being the filthy one.

I still think it's the baby - people refer to their children as being filthy/dirty when they've been playing outside or in something messy. I don't know that I frequently hear people refer to their husbands or other men as filthy/dirty - it's much more derogatory to call an adult filthy than a a child. Children are expected to be dirty at times...

In addition, she uses the word gentleman to describe the man. I would not think a gentleman would also be filthy. The whole context of the story is that they claim it's DK and baby Deorr. Was DK filthy for some reason? Why would DK be described as filthy?