ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow - Tylee Ryan - Tammy Daybell - Charles Vallow - *Arrests* #67

[Love Never Fails]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623735951725043713

Motions regarding Lori's case are now over. Chad Daybell's motions will begin after a 15 minute recess. Archibald says Lori wants to remain in the courtroom during Chad's portion. Boyce says that's fine.

Weird. Why doesn’t Boyce tell her NO?

 

[Love Never Fails]

IMO the aha moment for MG didn't come on the day of the welfare check but later. I don't think she would have lied to police if she thought that that could implicate her in a murder. She initially likely believed Lori that JJ was in hiding from KW. What she learned later probably helped her change her mind, including her decision to record Lori. Doing so she did help the prosecution although her motivation was likely self-protection.
I took Lori's threat about MG being held accountable differently. IMO Lori was alluding to being judged/punished by God within the framework of their cult. MG knew too much about their special beliefs. If she tried to turn her back on the cult, there was a chance that she'd be labeled dark.

But what kind of nut job believes in the light/dark theory of Chad? I mean if I even knew Lori and she implied I was dark I would run as fast and far as I could till she was behind bars because that was a death sentence.

 

[wnk]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623745431938424832

So you need more than 6 weeks to look over 5 items of discovery? Or, more likely, CD needs more than 6 weeks to rewrite his story about each of them...

 

[Love Never Fails]

IMO, Boyce needs to put on those big boy pants and tell them both NO. It may very well go to appeals court, but they could sit in prison or on death row in the meantime.
I don’t mean to be so critical of Boyce but take this case to trial!

 

[Chelly]

Archibald and Prior need to stop the absurd motions nonsense. Judge Boyce needs to move this case to trial.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I wish Nate could post a little faster about what is happening in court. Surely its over.

 

[Chelly]

Nate Eaton

@NateNewsNow
53m

Boyce grants Prior's motion to extend deadline to disclose discovery until March 13. Original date was Feb. 27.
Nate Eaton

@NateNewsNow
49m
Hearing is over. After a recess, a hearing will be held that is closed to the public.

 

[Chelly]

Why is Judge Boyce holding a closed door meeting?

Is Lori's attorney asking for a plea deal?
Is Lori going to play the incompetent to stand trial card again?

 

[Love Never Fails]

Why is Judge Boyce holding a closed door meeting?

Is Lori's attorney asking for a plea deal?
Is Lori going to play the incompetent to stand trial card again?

 

[Love Never Fails]

I have questions. I hope Nate reads here. Will we find out if trial date remains in April? What about the motion to sever? What about the motion on Lori’s behalf?
I hate that this trial has so much interest for the dead and the judge doesn’t care one iota.

 

[indicolite22]

But what kind of nut job believes in the light/dark theory of Chad? I mean if I even knew Lori and she implied I was dark I would run as fast and far as I could till she was behind bars because that was a death sentence.

The same type of person who believed that Lori and Chad were the leaders of the 144k.

 

[indicolite22]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623771296105631744

 

[indicolite22]

The defense wants potential jurors to be questioned in smaller groups with questions about their religion to be included.

They argue there could be bias against Vallow-Daybell among the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints due to the nature of the case.

Judge Steven W. Boyce agreed with the smaller groups but adamantly objected to asking jurors about their religion.

He said questions posed would be decided at a later date in Ada County.

Lori Vallow-Daybell back in court Thursday - Local News 8

Lori Vallow-Daybell was back in court Thursday morning where two motions were discussed.

localnews8.com

So Lori is hoping for a non-LDS jury?

 

[indicolite22]

Vallow’s defense attorneys said they hope to ask potential jurors during voir dire about religion, mental illness, and drug use, according to Eaton. The prosecution, in turn, said they would “object to defense attorneys asking jurors their religious affiliation and what congregation they go to.”

Prosecutors, however, said they would deal with the issue of religion during the trial, saying they had a witness lined up who would testify about hyper-religiosity “versus” using religion “as an excuse or reason to commit a crime,” according to Eaton.

Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell appear in court as both sides signal intent to argue about religion during triple murder trial

Both sides want to talk about religion in various ways during the upcoming cult-themed triple murder case that shocked East Idaho.

lawandcrime.com

A hearing on Chad's motion to sever the cases will be held on Feb 23.

 

[indicolite22]

Lori is here. Wearing black jogger type pants, white button up blouse, hair curled and makeup done. All smiles as she walked in and got seated. She is shackled at the feet.

Daybell was not in court for Lori's hearings but Archibald says Lori would like to stay to hear Chad's motions argued. "She's interested in those arguments"

Chad just walked in the courtroom. Shirt, tie, dress pants. Also in leg shackles.

Lori has glanced over at Chad. Chad so far continues to look forward.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623722631320178688

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623739957247614976

Chad Daybell just entered the courtroom in ankle shackles. He is wearing a white dress shirt and red eye. He briefly looked over at Lori and they smiled at each other.

As attorneys are speaking, I have noticed Chad Daybell occasionally looking over at Lori Vallow Daybell, who continues to take notes.

https://twitter.com/NateNewsNow/status/1623740477651705856

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623745053184380928

 

[JerseyGirl]

Judge hears several motions as trial for Chad and Lori Daybell approaches - East Idaho News

ST. ANTHONY — Lori Vallow Daybell walked into a Fremont County courtroom Thursday with a smile on her face and shackles on her ankles. Her husband, Chad Daybell, briefly grinned at her when he entered, also wearing ankle shackles. It was the first time the couple had worn those restraints in...

www.eastidahonews.com

 

[887sMtreme]

I'm sticking to my thoughts from way back when DW woke and said he heard noises, was this what was thought to be a nightmare? The noise he heard IMO was the tape being pulled from a roll and plastic bags crinkling While Lori wrapped JJ IN plastic bags.

<the above snipped for focus>

DW has a hearing impairment, as we learned when the court needed to accommodate it during his testimony. It’s hard to speculate what level of noise he might have been able to hear that night.

 

[887sMtreme]

Weird. Why doesn’t Boyce tell her NO?

I guess because the cases are joined, no?

 

[legalmomma]

But what kind of nut job believes in the light/dark theory of Chad? I mean if I even knew Lori and she implied I was dark I would run as fast and far as I could till she was behind bars because that was a death sentence.

I often wonder about this… why was Lori’s competency tested and due to her beliefs but Chad wasn’t?

 

[LaborDayRN]

I often wonder about this… why was Lori’s competency tested and due to her beliefs but Chad wasn’t?

I wonder if it comes down to Lori's legal team requesting it and Chads attorney's didn't request it for him? Or was it court ordered for Lori?