ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow - Tylee Ryan - Tammy Daybell - Charles Vallow - *Arrests* #68

[Cool Cats]

As this trial begins, if you go back and read threads from when the charges were filed, it's enlightening to compare what the prosecution and defense hoped to do, with what has happened.

Lori's defense was focused on keeping her from the death penalty. Their whole case and witness list was built with that mostly in mind. Still was until very recently, in fact.

Chad's defense was focused on getting the cases severed. They stated the unfair difficulty in distancing Chad from Lori and what she did, not him.

Now? I think the focus of Lori's defense will be mostly an attempt to lessen the sentence, perhaps by shifting blame on others, and less about trying to prove innocence. Or maybe to get her incarcerated in a prison for those with diminished capacity. It's still mostly about the punishment phase.

As for Chad, I expect his defense now will be to point at Alex and Lori, and claim he had no clue they would plot such things as they chased money. He will say imo the first murder(s) were way outside Chad's world (or geography), with Charles and maybe more -- and that when those didn't land the big money Lori/Alex expected, they just found new targets whose deaths would refashion their lives, working from a casual disregard for human life.

There won't be a penalty trial now but her mental illness will be a focus at sentencing, although Lori thinks she can convince a jury of innocence.

Vallow Daybell does not think her mental illness will factor into the trial at all however, because she is certain a jury will find her not guilty.

"Defendant believes that she will be acquitted of all charges and that the penalty phase will not be necessary," say her lawyers in their filing.

The defense team does say that they will present evidence of mental illness at that penalty phase should Vallow Daybell be found guilty by a jury.

Vallow Daybell's lawyers say that "would then be an appropriate time to present the mental illness evidence to the jury in consideration of the potential penalty."

Lori Vallow Daybell Rejects Mental Illness Diagnosis, Expects Acquittal

Lawyers for the "cult mom" filed an objection this week to prosecutors' request to have an expert testify about Vallow Daybell's mental state during her trial.

www.insideedition.com

 

[indicolite22]

Personally, I'm following Nate Eaton. He's posting a lot of stuff (which I appreciate). He and Justin Lum have done a great job reporting on this case for 3 years and I think they'll do a great job covering the trial

https://twitter.com/NateNewsNow

https://twitter.com/jlumfox10

I'm also following Lori Hellis who is present in the court's overflow room and sometimes includes expert commentary in her tweets, like predictions about jurors being excluded.

https://twitter.com/lorihellis

 

[formerlyme]

So glad I am not in that mess being screened for jury duty. I imagine it is quite a daunting task.

 

[Ruminations]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1642944254606704640

I like it.

It looks a bit like a New Yorker cartoon!

I imagine the figure in the middle sketching pictures of zombie raccoons coming at her once, twice, three times!

Is it my imagination or is it dated March 3rd, not April?

MOO

 

[formerlyme]

I like it.

It looks a bit like a New Yorker cartoon!

I imagine the figure in the middle sketching pictures of zombie raccoons coming at her once, twice, three times!

Is it my imagination or is it dated March 3rd, not April?

MOO

I see march, and I like it too.

 

[QB2022]

Hmmm... I've never quite been a sketch artist fan. But, I guess it helps those who appreciate it.

In the UK we are still nearly entirely sketches. It's refreshing following USA trials and not having sketches for once usually

 

[fred&edna]

If there is an upside to not having cameras in the courtroom, it's that I don't have to actually see LVD's face. I honestly don't care if I see her smirk and saunter again. Just my opinion, of course.

 

[altojack]

I like it.

It looks a bit like a New Yorker cartoon!

I imagine the figure in the middle sketching pictures of zombie raccoons coming at her once, twice, three times!

Is it my imagination or is it dated March 3rd, not April?

MOO

Yes March. Didn't notice until you mentioned it. It's this headache I keep getting, haven't slept well over the weekend due to thinking thoughts. I'm not happy with the situation with Kay and Larry. He's not in very good health these days, poor man.

 

[BUF]

Lori Daybell has appeared very attentive during jury selection today - taking notes and occasionally leaning over to chat with her attorneys.

https://twitter.com/natenewsnow

 

[indicolite22]

Apparently four potential jurors from the first batch didn't know anything about this case before. There are still people who don't follow the news.

 

[Hoosgirl]

A little explainer on the sketch artist:

12:58 p.m. When Judge Boyce banned cameras and refused to allow a live audio feed, EastIdahoNews.com and other media outlets hired a sketch artist to draw images inside the courtroom. She is not permitted in the courtroom during jury selection, so today she is drawing sketches being transmitted from a grainy webcam onto a screen in an overflow room. Here is an image she just completed showing Jim Archibald questioning jurors with prosecutors Rod Wood, Lindsey Blake and Rachel Smith observing.

04 03 2023 02 JurySelection copy (looks like the image didn't come over, you can view at link)

And some info on family members:

1:45 p.m. Kay and Larry Woodcock are not here today but I’m told they will arrive later this week. None of Lori Daybell’s family members are here. Chad Daybell has no family here and Tammy Daybell’s family members are not here.

Jury selection day 1: Jury selection begins on first day of Lori Vallow Daybell murder trial - East Idaho News

BOISE – Lori Vallow Daybell’s murder trial began with jury selection Monday morning in Ada County. Daybell is charged with murder, conspiracy and grand theft in connection to the deaths of her children, 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow, and Tylee Ryan, who was last seen a few days before her 17th...

www.eastidahonews.com

 

[fred&edna]

Yes March. Didn't notice until you mentioned it. It's this headache I keep getting, haven't slept well over the weekend due to thinking thoughts. I'm not happy with the situation with Kay and Larry. He's not in very good health these days, poor man.

IKWYM We can't help but worry about Larry & Kay through all of this.

Take care of yourself @altojack

 

[CSIDreamer]

Are we supposed to hear Boyce's decision on Kay and Larry today still?

 

[Hoosgirl]

Are we supposed to hear Boyce's decision on Kay and Larry today still?

I hope so. Just checked court site to see if anything had posted, but nothing yet.

Idaho Judicial Cases of Interest

 

[Tortoise]

ᴊᴜꜱᴛɪɴ ʟᴜᴍ | 林俊豪

@jlumfox10
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40m

So far today, 11 jurors have been dismissed from the pool

ᴊᴜꜱᴛɪɴ ʟᴜᴍ | 林俊豪

@jlumfox10
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22m

We are told another panel of jurors will be brought in for questioning. The court wants to reach 42 jurors before narrowing it down to the final 18

ᴊᴜꜱᴛɪɴ ʟᴜᴍ | 林俊豪

@jlumfox10
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21m

So far 17 total jurors have made it out of the last two panels

ᴊᴜꜱᴛɪɴ ʟᴜᴍ | 林俊豪

@jlumfox10
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12m

It’s official. Third group of jurors will be questioned for the end of the day. Group 4 will start tomorrow

ᴊᴜꜱᴛɪɴ ʟᴜᴍ | 林俊豪

@jlumfox10
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4m

Each panel consists of about 15 jurors. So 17/30ish so far are in the finals

 

[Tortoise]

Alexandra Duggan (Alex)

@dugganreports
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1h

John Prior, Daybell's attorney seems to be getting in a tizzy with a prosecutor communication liaison... "I think it's inappropriate that you're here making comments to the media," she says.. "I've informed the judge." Prior: "Well you do that."

 

[MySharoanah]

Yes March. Didn't notice until you mentioned it.

They noticed the date error as well. Nate Eaton reposted the sketch with the date corrected on his Twitter.

 

[GRT]

There won't be a penalty trial now but her mental illness will be a focus at sentencing, although Lori thinks she can convince a jury of innocence.

Vallow Daybell does not think her mental illness will factor into the trial at all however, because she is certain a jury will find her not guilty.

"Defendant believes that she will be acquitted of all charges and that the penalty phase will not be necessary," say her lawyers in their filing.

The defense team does say that they will present evidence of mental illness at that penalty phase should Vallow Daybell be found guilty by a jury.

Vallow Daybell's lawyers say that "would then be an appropriate time to present the mental illness evidence to the jury in consideration of the potential penalty."

Lori Vallow Daybell Rejects Mental Illness Diagnosis, Expects Acquittal

Lawyers for the "cult mom" filed an objection this week to prosecutors' request to have an expert testify about Vallow Daybell's mental state during her trial.

www.insideedition.com

That makes me think the defense is going to claim Alex and Chad conspired to kill the children but they told Lori they were hidden away in a safe place.

 

[887sMtreme]

DBM — Decided not to criticize the sketch artist, now that I know what they’re up against.

 

[887sMtreme]

DBM — I didn’t mean to criticize the sketch artist now that I what they’re up against.