ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell, Charles Vallow *Arrests* #71

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  • #621
RSBM

I'm not sure I trust anyone about anything.

And, I continue with my overwhelming feelings of things being "off" in this trial.
I agree. I feel like I am in an alternate universe.
It's a bizarre cast of characters and their reaction to everything that has happened is even more bizarre.
 
  • #622
still shocking even though anticipated
asphyxia via the bag plus the duct tape

was he given some of the sleep meds prior to suffocation? ( Those meds last mentioned by Lori to the babysitter re podcast night)

I was hoping JJ was unaware of what might be happening to him. It doesn't sound as if that's the case... I want to weep.
 
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Heartbreaking
Our worst fears confirmed.
 
  • #624
You nailed it!

When you start with an actual belief in their extreme premises about multiple lives and evil spirits, then there's an understandable set of logic to the teaching that was being developed, taking followers right down the rabbit hole into sheer madness in thought and action. Killing people is ok? What is wrong with you?

For those who believe the Bible, teaching of false unbiblical ideas can beget and be used to try to justify great evil; it says: "... in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons." That is what has been occurring here imo, and the depravity and evil we are seeing is the result.
In their doctrine, killing was ok only for people like Chad and Lori who were self-proclaimed leaders and elevated beings. Lori compared herself to figures from Mormon scripture (like Nephi) who had justification to kill.
 
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  • #626
still shocking even though anticipated
asphyxia via the bag plus the duct tape

was he given some of the sleep meds prior to suffocation? ( Those meds last mentioned by Lori to the babysitter re podcast night)
Bruises on the upper arms could mean that he was held down.
 
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  • #629
In their doctrine, killing was ok only for people like Chad and Lori who were self-proclaimed leaders and elevated beings. Lori compared herself to figures from Mormon scripture (like Nephi) who had justification to kill.
Interesting. ( had never heard of Nephi before this case)

so is that what she meant when she texted this? ' "I will be like Nephi I am told and so are you"
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( obviously incl Alex as having 'permission ' to carry out killings for them)
Anyway, if that's true, I hope the State use this text
 
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  • #631
Bruises on the upper arms could mean that he was held down.
When Hermosillo mentioned those bruises, that’s what we thought. The cruelty is beyond belief.
 
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  • #634
GHB!
 
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Interesting. ( had never heard of Nephi before this case)

so is that what she meant when she texted this? ' "I will be like Nephi I am told and so are you"
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( obviously incl Alex as having 'permission ' to carry out killings for them)
Anyway, if that's true, I hope the State use this text
I suspect that "I will be like Nephi and so will you" will be used against her in Charles' murder case.
 
  • #636
GHB... commonly known as the date rape drug
 
  • #637
I suspect that "I will be like Nephi and so will you" will be used against her in Charles' murder case.
but we've already heard 404B evidence re CV in this trial already so not sure why they'd want to save that til later
 
  • #638
GHB... commonly known as the date rape drug
very frustrating to read that tests inconclusive cause his family will never be sure if they showed any mercy at all
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as asked last week, did the sitter ever see the sleep meds Lori talked about? surely that wouldn't have been GHB
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  • #639
but we've already heard 404B evidence re CV in this trial already so not sure why they'd want to save that til later
No, not in this trial, it will be emphasized in Charles' trial.
 
  • #640
Now than we know JJ died due to asphyxia by a plastic bag over his head … think about all of that communication between Lori and Alex that long night that was just brought into evidence.
 
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