ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell, Charles Vallow Arrests #73

pizzaman12 · May 4, 2023

Gardenista said:
No, this is wrong, the defense lied. Linked docs were posted upthread

Could you point me to that? I thought JB was not happy they did not file on time.

Emi · May 4, 2023

Nikynoo · May 4, 2023

Love Never Fails said:
I thought defense was provided the info. Lori’s first had it and it was found.

That was the health insurance agent testimony (I think).

Emi · May 4, 2023

Gardenista · May 4, 2023

pizzaman12 said:
Could you point me to that? I thought JB was not happy they did not file on time.

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/031323%20Objection%20to%20Motion%20in%20Limine.pdf

Teche · May 4, 2023

Niner said:
Summary of tweets for Thursday, May 4th - Day 17

State witness: Taylor Ballard, Health insurance broker / Part 2

Nate Eaton
@NateNewsNow
·
20m
We are back in the courtroom. Thomas had a concern the health insurance information this witness is testifying about was not provided to the defense. Turns out it was but to Lori's prior attorney. Thomas says he & Archibald had not seen it but do have it.

Ballard talks about a phone call she had with Chad in December 2019. "He called me because he wanted to make sure to pay his premiums for January. I told him I never heard back from him on the email I sent him for the quotes.

We went over the options and he picked a plans," she says. Chad only obtained insurance for himself and his son Mark. On March 11, 2020, Chad went into Ballard's office. "His original inquiry was to obtain health coverage for his new wife."

Chad said he got married on Nov. 5. He said his new wife was incarcerated and he was really worried about something happening to her. Ballard said she didn't qualify to enroll because it was outside of the 60-day window from the marriage date.

Chad said they had moved from Hawaii. Moving into a new state is a qualifying event. Chad asked about dental coverage for himself, Lori and Mark.

Ballard said Chad looked thinner and tanner in March from when she had last seen him in November. "He wrote on a sticky note Lori Ryan Daybell" when asked what his new wife's name was.

Ballard asked if there were any children that needed to be insured. Chad said no. Rawlings has no further questions.

Thomas now cross-examining Ballard. He asks Ballard what Chad's income was when he went into the insurance. She recalled Chad telling her that his income without his wife was $20,000.

Ballard says, "Chad told me they wouldn't have any income but Health and Welfare interfaced $30,000." Thomas has no further questions. Rawlings has no re-direct. The witness is released.

link: https://twitter.com/NateNewsNow

What does Health and Welfare interfaced $30,000 mean? Medicaid and SNAP benefits?

Emi · May 4, 2023

meanmaryjean · May 4, 2023

Teche said:
What does Health and Welfare interfaced $30,000 mean? Medicaid and SNAP benefits?

Is it church related maybe?

Emi · May 4, 2023

pizzaman12 · May 4, 2023

Gardenista said:
https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/031323%20Objection%20to%20Motion%20in%20Limine.pdf

This is the state's objection and basically why they didn't feel it was late even though it was. I can't remember JB ruling but wasn't it going to be that he would address it as the trial went on?

Elliot_Alderson · May 4, 2023

So what exactly is Lori's defense? That this was all big, bad Chad and she had no idea?

RickshawFan · May 4, 2023

nhmemorymaker said:
Often, the underlying reason for going to college is finding mate. Twas on that side of the family.
Ya know like lots of women who went to college back in the thirties .and forties.

Groan n nnnn.

Yep, it was the MRS degree.

GoneGoldfishin' · May 4, 2023

Teche said:
What does Health and Welfare interfaced $30,000 mean? Medicaid and SNAP benefits?

When you apply for benefits, the state agency already has all of your income, tax records, unemployment claims, SS payments, etc. info available on their computer database. You are then asked for documentation (even though they already know it) before you are approved. IME.

formerlyme · May 4, 2023

meanmaryjean said:
Is it church related maybe?

I thought maybe it was income from the insurance money? Making him ineligible for medicade.

Emi · May 4, 2023

Gardenista · May 4, 2023

pizzaman12 said:
This is the state's objection and basically why they didn't feel it was late even though it was. I can't remember JB ruling but wasn't it going to be that he would address it as the trial went on?

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about the evidence the defense lied about and said they didn't have. Here's the order

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/032223%20Order%20on%20Cross-Motions%20in%20Limine.pdf

Love Never Fails · May 4, 2023

Nikynoo said:
That was the health insurance agent testimony (I think).

You are correct. I’m sorry.

cottonweaver · May 4, 2023

Gardenista said:
No, this is wrong, the defense lied. Linked docs were posted upthread

when he says to Audrey, why did you not mention this threat at the GJ?
she basically agrees when she replies that she was too scared to mention at the GJ? *

when did she testify in front of GJ?

*at 24 min here

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