Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #52

[Lyrarya]

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Case Information

CR22-20-0755 | State of Idaho Plaintiff, vs. Chad Guy Daybell Defendant.

• 08/17/2020 Felony Information Filed
  
  Comment
  DAYBELL. Prosecuting Attorney Information
  
  
• 08/17/2020 Request for Discovery
  
  Comment
  DAYBELL. Discovery Req
  
  
• 08/18/2020 Order
  
  Comment
  Re: Regarding Notice of Report Hearing and Livestreaming
  
  
• 08/21/2020 Arraignment - District Court
  
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  
  Hearing Time
  9:00 AM

Somebody on reddit said that Felony Information could be another charge, is it true or am I misreading stuff?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Also...from other cases I follow, there is usually a “financial” tab you can look at that lists fines, restitution, court costs and such. That typically gets updated after sentencing is handed down. So without seeing an example, just wanted to mention it could also be that. Lori’s would be blank currently.

Thank you that’s definitely helpful

Thanks for addressing that. I thought the OP was talking about financials of the person being disclosed, not the financial of the trial/court costs which I didn't consider at top of mind.

It takes a village to get the answers to the OP sometimes as we read it differently.

 

[887sMtreme]

The expert comments on the irreversible zombie possession:

"It’s important to say that this is not an idea I’ve ever seen promoted by anyone else in any Mormon group. The idea that you could become possessed to the point that you would lose your full identity, and that an evil being could take over your body completely, is not a Latter-day Saint teaching. We see it in popular culture, in Massachusetts in the 1700s, and in some Pentecostal accounts."

If the expert was referring to the Salem witch trisls, they were in the late 1600s.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Relief Society is for women, who do not otherwise hold official positions in the LDS Church. It is an important, but "ladylike" charitable force in Mormon culture, as I understand it.

IIRC, Tammy was coming home from some type of women's LDS gathering the night she was shot at by a "paintball" per her post we have seen. Not sure IIRC what the name of that women's group was. A Sunday night group? Monday night group? Wednesday night group?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Somebody on reddit said that Felony Information could be another charge, is it true or am I misreading stuff?

Perhaps, but two days afterwards and nothing from MSM I doubt it. I think it is what it states it is.. moving charges over and notifying the district court by the Prosecutor (vs. grand jury) as to charges for the docket.

MOO

 

[indicolite22]

IIRC, Tammy was coming home from some type of women's LDS gathering the night she was shot at by a "paintball" per her post we have seen. Not sure IIRC what the name of that women's group was. A Sunday night group? Monday night group? Wednesday night group?

IIRC, it was called Enrichment that held meetings on Wednesdays.

 

[Lyrarya]

Perhaps, but two days afterwards and nothing from MSM I doubt it. I think it is what it states it is.. moving charges over and notifying the district court by the Prosecutor (vs. grand jury) as to charges for the docket.

MOO

Thanks

 

[RexburgSleuth]

Would that not be a person below Heather in the Stake hierarchy? That seems odd.

Heirarchy? I'm not sure if that's the right word as it's not necessarily a position that indicates movement or increased status. Such a position in the ward level would be a stewardship over the needs and concerns of the women in the local ward. The stake level position is more broad in scope and assists those in the wards with more general than specific needs and concerns.

Perhaps the letter was distributed from the stake to the ward level through ward leadership.

https://twitter.com/ChanleyCourtTV/status/1295930259670433793/photo/4
(Edit: The signature at the bottom of the fourth image) shows the letter was sent to the members of the ward from the local Relief Society president. Who else, such as bishops and leaders in other wards in the stake, to have received a copy of the letter is unknown from the information we have.

(ETA: image)

ETA: Again, we don't know who shared the letter with CourtTV after receipt from the ward's Relief Society President.

IIRC, Tammy was coming home from some type of women's LDS gathering the night she was shot at by a "paintball" per her post we have seen. Not sure IIRC what the name of that women's group was. A Sunday night group? Monday night group? Wednesday night group?

It was a monthly meeting of the Relief Society of the ward called Enrichment Night wherein the topic of the evening was collecting ingredients and creating frozen meals to each sister who participated.

 

[Forever Young]

The expert comments on the irreversible zombie possession:

"It’s important to say that this is not an idea I’ve ever seen promoted by anyone else in any Mormon group. The idea that you could become possessed to the point that you would lose your full identity, and that an evil being could take over your body completely, is not a Latter-day Saint teaching. We see it in popular culture, in Massachusetts in the 1700s, and in some Pentecostal accounts."

I wonder why MG couldn't see this, as well-versed as she appears to be? To my knowledge there is no Biblical example or similar Mormon holy book that speaks of the need to kill a human being in order to free them from a demonic spirit.

Didn't she mention something about praying and thousands of zombies dying everyday? So they were praying for zombies to die, instead of overcoming evil with good.

 

[303gmf]

Relief Society is for women. They still do not otherwise hold official positions in the LDS Church. It is an important, but "ladylike" charitable force in Mormon culture, as I understand it.

Thank you! I was being a bit facetious
Patriarchy rules!!

 

[Redvines86]

Relief Society is for women. They still do not otherwise hold official positions in the LDS Church. It is an important, but "ladylike" charitable force in Mormon culture, as I understand it.

Sorry, they absolutely do!! They have full on very official positions, and there are women in paid leadership positions.

 

[Redvines86]

I thought only males had positions of leadership. Have things changed for the better, finally?

Women have had leadership positions for a very long time.

 

[GRT]

This is the part of the letter that stands out to me:

"I don't understand why my husband and I were blamed and ostracized by our extended family in trying to warn and bring attention to the huge concerns we had about what was happening. I don't understand how we were so unbelievable and he was so believable."

Obviously, she and her husband were concerned and warned others about Chad but they were ignored. Who, I have to wonder, was in Chad's corner?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Heirarchy? I'm not sure if that's the right word as it's not necessarily a position that indicates movement or increased status. Such a position in the ward level would be a stewardship over the needs and concerns of the women in the local ward. The stake level position is more broad in scope and assists those in the wards with more general than specific needs and concerns.



https://twitter.com/ChanleyCourtTV/status/1295930259670433793/photo/4
(Edit: The signature at the bottom of the fourth image) shows the letter was sent to the members of the ward from the local Relief Society president. Who else, such as bishops and leaders in other wards in the stake, to have received a copy of the letter is unknown from the information we have.

(ETA: image)

ETA: Again, we don't know who shared the letter with CourtTV after receipt from the ward's Relief Society President.



It was a monthly meeting of the Relief Society of the ward called Enrichment Night wherein the topic of the evening was collecting ingredients and creating frozen meals to each sister who participated.

OK,

So the letter to all the women was the from the Relief Society President w/Heather comments.....,

and is it the same ?ward/stake? Relief Society that governs the meeting group for Wednesday nights' head of the Relief Society meeting when Tammy was shot at?

Interesting indeed

 

[Boxer]

This is the part of the letter that stands out to me:



Obviously, she and her husband were concerned and warned others about Chad but they were ignored. Who, I have to wonder, was in Chad's corner?

That a lot of people going with the dubious beliefs, ones that are obviously ripe for manipulation for gain or wrong doing.
MOO for social reasons, an allure of secretly being of high social status in a secret fantasy apocalyptic world.

 

[ReadySet]

People in their extended family, it sounds like.

This is the part of the letter that stands out to me:



Obviously, she and her husband were concerned and warned others about Chad but they were ignored. Who, I have to wonder, was in Chad's corner?

 

[Tortoise]

Idaho Judicial Cases of Interest

CR22-20-0838 - Fremont County
State of Idaho v. Lori Norene Vallow aka Lori Norene Daybell

• 08/017/2020 Prosecuting Attorney Information
• 08/017/2020 Motion for Extension of Time to File Motion for Transfer of Trial Pursuant to I.C.R. 21
• 08/017/2020 Request for Discovery
• 08/017/2020 Request for Discovery
• 08/019/2020 Orders Regarding Notices of Remote Hearing and Livestreaming
  

 

[Tortoise]

Idaho Judicial Cases of Interest

CR22-20-0755 - Fremont County
State of Idaho v. Chad Guy Daybell

• 08/17/2020 Prosecuting Attorney Information
• 08/17/2020 Request for Discovery
• 08/19/2020 Order Regarding Notices of Remote Hearing and Livestreaming

 

[GoofyJen]

Idaho Judicial Cases of Interest

CR22-20-0755 - Fremont County
State of Idaho v. Chad Guy Daybell

• 08/17/2020 Prosecuting Attorney Information
• 08/17/2020 Request for Discovery
• 08/19/2020 Order Regarding Notices of Remote Hearing and Livestreaming

After reading the Orders Regarding Notices... I imagined a conversation among some courthouse staff.
"Remember that one time when the clerk published the zoom link, meeting id, and password on the public records site? And it was for that really big case? Maybe we shouldn't do that again."

 

[Tricia]

Dear LDS social scientist,
Thank you for taking the time to help us understand the letter. You have been extremely helpful.
If you have a moment would you drop me a quick email please? [email protected]

Thank you,
Tricia

I think you have pretty well got it. My understanding, just for clarification, is:

The Stake President (the leader supervising 10 or so local wards (congregations)) directed Heather Daybell (the stake's Relief Society (women's organization within the church) President) along with leaders of other sub-groups within the stake (Young Women's President, etc.) to pass along a message (talk) from one of the church's general leaders (Elder Corbridge) that he wanted members of the stake to study. This is an entirely routine type of request, perhaps given monthly or quarterly by the stake president and then passed along by the rest of stake leadership to the corresponding leaders within each of the wards (in this case, one of the wards' Relief Society president posted this particular email and added a paragraph at the end). There's no direct evidence in the letter itself suggesting that the stake president asked Heather Daybell to say anything about the Chad situation.

When Heather Daybell passed this message about Elder Corbridge's talk along to each of the wards' Relief Society presidents, she added her own thoughts, which comprise the bulk of the letter -- intertwining thoughts about Chad and the talk. It's possible the Stake President had asked Heather Daybell to give her thoughts on the Chad situation but also possible she just did so on her own because the situation had been weighing on her. I lean toward the latter possibility, based on the context/way the points were framed.

I don't think this letter will have much bearing in any way on the legal case against Chad. Heather and Matt Daybell were already on the record, through the media several months ago, as distrusting Chad's beyond-LDS beliefs. This letter simply reinforces that sentiment.