Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #64

[Laughing]

"Maybe they were making plans to meet for supper later"

Portal scheduling?

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[carbuff]

Portal scheduling?

jmho ymmv lrr

Oh, I think you've got it!

 

[indicolite22]

Thanks, that's interesting. Could Idaho charge him, then? Or does that make it a Federal crime?

IIRC, LH also stated that federal or Idaho charges were unlikely.

 

[Niner]

Monday, March 7th:
*Status Hearing (re: Competency)-MAYBE! (@ 1:30pm MT) – ID – Joshua Jaxon (JJ) Vallow (7) & Tylee Ashlyn Ryan (16) (JJ last seen Sept. 23, 2019 & Tylee on Sept. 9, 2019, Rexburg; found June 9, 2019 buried in Daybell’s yard in Salem, ID) – only for *Lori Norene Vallow aka Lori Norene Daybell (46/now 48) arrested (in Kauai, Hawaii on 2/20/20) & indicted (5/25/21) & arraigned (5/26/21) with Count 1 (for Tylee): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder & grand theft by deception (for Daybell, Vallow & Alex Cox) & other co-conspirators. Count 2 (for Tylee): 1st degree murder. Count 3 (for JJ): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder & grand theft by deception. Count 4(for JJ): 1st degree murder. Count 5 (for Tammy): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder. Count 6 (for Tammy): Chad only: 1st Degree murder. Count 7: Lori only: Grand theft (related to social security survivor benefits allocated for the care of minors Tylee & JJ). DA will seek DP.
Arrested (in Kauai, Hawaii) on 2/20/20 & charged (6/30/20) & arraigned (9/20/20) with 2 counts of conspiracy to commit destruction, alteration or concealment of evidence. Bond was set at $5M & reduced to $1M.
Conspiracy to commit destruction, alteration or concealment of evidence charges dismissed without prejudice on 7/29/21. Fremont County
Trial was set to begin on 7/12/21 has been vacated. No further dates yet.
Grand Jury convened from May 17 to May 20 re JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan & Tammy Daybell. Indicted on 5/25/21 (see above).
Vallow was found incompetent to stand trial on 5/27/21. Transferred to mental hospital on 6/24/21.
Court info from 3/5/20 thru 1/7/22 reference post #856 here:
Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #64
2/9/22 Update: Closed hearing & sealed record. Status conference hearing on 2/11/22 @ 9:30am. 3/2/22: Maricopa County Attorney’s Office will NOT charge Chad Daybell with conspiring to kill Brandon Boudreaux after “lengthy, careful” review of Gilbert case. Prosecutor still reviewing same charge for Lori Vallow.
2/11/22 Update: Present: Judicial Officer: Steven Boyce, for State: Prosecuting Attorney: Lindsey Blake & Robert Wood, Defendant's Public Defender James Archibald. Order & Motion: To Seal. Request Comment: to Shorten Notice, Motion Comment: for Physician's Notes. 2/16/22: Motion to seal. 3/4/22: Competency Reports Sealed: Judge Steven Boyce signs order sealing Dept. of Health competency reports regarding Vallow. The reports from two doctors have been submitted to the Court. Vallow remains unfit (on 12/29/21) for trial & incompetent with her case still on hold. 180 days will be next status hearing. Approximately on 3/7/22.
*Madison County: Pretrial conference hearing on 8/17/21 & trial set to begin on 8/30/21 were both vacated.
*Chad Guy Daybell (51/now 53) – Motions hearing on 3/18/22 & 3/23/22. Pretrial hearing on 11/9/22. Trial set to begin on 1/9/23.
*AZ – Indicted (6/24/21) & served (6/29/21) with conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder in the death of former husband Charles Vallow.
Court info from 6/29/21 thru 9/30/21 reference post #596 here:
Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #64

 

[pizzaman12]

Anyone think we'll be able to see anything?

 

[woods]

When is the deadline?

 

[indicolite22]

Scott Reisch doesn't believe Lori is malingering, because professional would be able to pick up on it much sooner than in six months. We'll know that her competency has been restored if she returns to jail in the next few days.

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[nunaloon]

IMO I am leaning towards mental ill health. I have very limited knowledge of metal illnesses though. I did note she stated she no longer needed to eat and I have heard it reported she demanded a room to dance in. IMO sounds like mania. IMO the state is not going to throw the jail doors open for her if it is found she has mental health issues. Purely speculation on my behalf. If she is found guilty of the crimes a forensic mental health unit comes to mind... Personally I wouldn't want to be locked away in a forensic unit with no release date. It appears she is a danger to society going on what LE have release to the public. Either way it doesn't look good for her. I am inclined to believe justice will come for the incent lives that have been stolen. Just wish the system would hurry up for the loved ones left behind but I fear it will not come swiftly.

 

[carbuff]

They really do have to wait. If she IS incompetent, and they push through anyway, the results of the trial can be thrown out and they'd have to start over. In some cases, they wouldn't even be allowed to refile the charges.

My personal view (I am not a trained professional) is that she's been dangerously insane for several years. And it's much harder to fool the real trained professionals than people think it is.

 

[montegrl]

The online docket is back up finally. FWIW, at the top it still lists her case as inactive, but the judge may not have ruled on anything yet either. MOO

 

[pizzaman12]

They really do have to wait. If she IS incompetent, and they push through anyway, the results of the trial can be thrown out and they'd have to start over. In some cases, they wouldn't even be allowed to refile the charges.

My personal view (I am not a trained professional) is that she's been dangerously insane for several years. And it's much harder to fool the real trained professionals than people think it is.

I don't think they're going to push. Trained professionals are either going to deem her competent or not. For the most part, that bar has been historically low but I'm assuming they're working within specific guidelines. It will be interesting to see. I'd assume we'll know more in the next couple of days.

 

[indicolite22]

My personal view (I am not a trained professional) is that she's been dangerously insane for several years. And it's much harder to fool the real trained professionals than people think it is.

SBM. Strangely, she didn't appear insane while frolicking with Chad in Hawaii and didn't sound insane in her police interview after Charles' murder or upon the welfare check. Dangerous, yes; delusional, probably. She was hiding both from police. Not being able to understand the consequences of her actions? I doubt it. IF she is insane, she got worse than she was around the time of the murders. (IMO)

 

[indicolite22]

Chad Daybell’s attorney has been busy. Besides motion/order to seal, John Prior motions to dismiss indictment, strike the death penalty & DQ prosecution including out of state prosecutor Rachel Smith. He also wants to see homicide/DP cases she has served as counsel or worked on.

https://twitter.com/jlumfox10/status/1501304686636195847

 

[Niner]

Did LV have an actual hearing on Monday? That was just an approximate date I picked from the Judge saying "180 days".

 

[Teche]

Did LV have an actual hearing on Monday? That was just an approximate date I picked from the Judge saying "180 days".

I was wondering the same.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I'm lost, too.

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Two years ago….we were standing at the tiny Rexburg airport with a wonderful crew from Dateline NBC when Lori Vallow Daybell landed in this plane. She was escorted by several law enforcement officers from Hawaii to Idaho - and then taken to the Madison County Jail where a hoard of media was waiting.

A competency update is expected next week in her case. If doctors deem her competent, she will head back to jail and await her trial. If not, she remains in the state hospital until she is psychologically competent. Hard to believe it’s been two years.

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[Niner]

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A competency update is expected next week in her case. If doctors deem her competent, she will head back to jail and await her trial. If not, she remains in the state hospital until she is psychologically competent. Hard to believe it’s been two years.

So @montegrl - anything in the court site about the date, maybe? TIA!

 

[longtimereader]

As competency questions loom, what's next for Lori Vallow Daybell? - East Idaho News

 

[montegrl]

So @montegrl - anything in the court site about the date, maybe? TIA!

Yes, here's a new date for this Friday:

• 03/09/2022 Notice of Remote Hearing
  
  
• 03/11/2022 Motion Hearing
  
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  
  Hearing Time
  11:00 AM
  

 

[montegrl]

This is in Chad's case, it's interesting that it's a different Judge:

• 03/08/2022 Motion
  
  Judicial Officer
  Dunn, Stephen S.
  
  Comment
  to Seal
  
  
• 03/08/2022 Order
  
  Comment
  to Seal