Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #5

[jjenny]

It's possible. Prior to this whole change of mindset (mental illness?) she seemed to be quite a loving mother. Perhaps calling her back to that frame of mind might help. Can't say, but why would it not be worth a try?

Besides... if my mom up and disappeared like this, and my sibs were missing and even I didn't know where they were... I'd be making an appeal the only way I could too! (FWIW my mother wouldn't ever do that, thankfully)

Well, now she apparently thinks she is a translated being (whatever that means) on a mission to prepare for the end of the world. I just don't see somebody (even if it is her son) pleading with her to do the right thing is going to work.

 

[tresir2012]

I was! You need extensive infographs, pictographs and flowcharts with this cast of characters.
I was literally thinking that Lori had gotten involved with PAP because of her cousin. (Oops niece..see what I mean)

Melani is Lori's niece - the daughter of Lori"s dead sister Stacey. Stacey died of a diabetic seizure and Alex borrowed her credit card after her death. :-(

 

[fred&edna]

I was! You need extensive infographs, pictographs and flowcharts with this cast of characters.
I was literally thinking that Lori had gotten involved with PAP because of her cousin. (Oops niece..see what I mean)

It is difficult to keep everything straight in this case. I think I created the initial confusion with the M names. . Sorry everyone!

 

[afitzy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...TaP8KEmyNqJegWob4MFFzPuby-yii6QhtV2JPGepWoPR4

Quotes from article:
Chad and Lori have both denied any wrongdoing toward their family members. “Chad Daybell was a loving husband and has the support of his children in this matter,” their attorney, Sean Bartholick, said in a December statement to local media outlets. “Lori (Vallow) Daybell is a devoted mother and resents assertions to the contrary. We look forward to addressing the allegations once they have moved beyond speculation and rumor.”

Like a number of Lori’s relatives, Boudreaux has accused Chad of leading her into a cult, though that hasn’t been officially confirmed. “There is a ton of speculation and a lot of rumors, but nothing that we have determined of classified as a cult,” Rexburg Assistant Chief of Police Gary Hagen told the Standard Journal. [BBM]

Before they married, Lori and Chad appeared together on podcasts distributed by Preparing A People, a media company which touts the tagline, “Helping to prepare the people of this Earth for the second coming of Jesus Christ.” The company has since denied being a cult and distanced itself from the couple, deleting the podcasts in question and saying in a December statement that it was “shocked” and “deeply disturbed” to learn of the investigation.


“We also do not share any of Chad Daybell’s or Lori Vallow’s beliefs if they are contrary to Christian principles of honesty, integrity and truth, or if they do not align with the doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” owners Michael and Nancy James wrote.

Some family members are skeptical. “I don’t want to attack anyone’s beliefs … but when you look at the fruit that’s come from this group and its beliefs … it certainly, from my mind, doesn’t come from God,” Boudreaux told the East Idaho News. [BBM]

Tylee and Joshua are still missing, and it’s unclear if they are alive. Last week, police said they were certain Lori knew what happened to them, but she had left Idaho with her new husband and “refused to work with law enforcement.” She also reportedly told people that her daughter had died.


“Our primary concern at this point is simply locating Joshua and Tylee and charging decisions will be made in due course based upon the evidence available,” the statement said. “If we find that harm was done to these children within our jurisdiction, we will prosecute whoever caused that harm.”

Tammy Daybell’s relatives are equally eager to learn the truth and have said that she seemed to be healthy and was in good spirits two weeks before her death. Some have expressed suspicion about a call she made to 911 in the days before her death, saying that a man was pointing what appeared to be a paintball gun at her.

“We speculate like everybody else,” her father, Ron Douglas, told Fox 13. “It’s hard to know that we lost our daughter and that our son-in-law of 30 years has stepped into this mess. We don’t know. We’d like to hope for the best. Every time you peel a layer off the onion it makes you scratch your head.”[BBM]

 

[Friday Fan]

It is difficult to keep everything straight in this case. I think I created the initial confusion with the M names. . Sorry everyone!

No. You didn't create it. I started reading it somewhere else.

 

[BigAl16]

I just noticed today that Chad's book publishing company website is down: http://www.springcreekbooks.com/

Message there currently says:

Error establishing a database connection

@diggndeeperstill it might be a good idea to see what else you can pull up on the wayback machine from that site.

Yes, I mentioned this about a week ago, I think. I wasn't sure what to make of it. His author site ( cdaybell.com | The Official Website for Chad Daybell ) is still up. The publishing site was up when I first looked at it.

Odds are it isn't meaningful. I doubt Chad did something to cause it to come down after he disappeared, although we can't rule that out. More likely, IMO, is either it got hacked by someone and they messed something up, or possibly some maintenance needed to happen and didn't (probably not likely, but if something needed Tammy would have been the one to know what).

 

[Steelslady]

Do you believe Alex killed Charles in self defense? YES

Do you believe Alex was being framed for any or all of the deaths by Lori and/or Chad?
I don't have an opinion either way. I just haven't seen/heard anything supporting this.

Do you think (especially in light of his sudden marriage into the group, etc.) that Alex could have been talked into causing any of the deaths.
I think it possible, given his fragile emotional state after justifiably taking a life, that he may have been more susceptible to manipulation than he normally would be.

Um, what?

 

[Jethro4WS]

No. You didn't create it. I started reading it somewhere else.

In most cases, sooner or later FB groups (and other sites) start putting things together that shouldn't be put together and create "facts" that aren't facts - let alone true.

 

[Friday Fan]

Account Suspended
FWIW
I get "this account has been suspended" when I click on the Doe Network as of Jan 1st.

Doe must have lost their certificate at one time and started a new website at DoeNetwork.org.
Now DoeNetwork.org has been suspended.

Yes, I mentioned this about a week ago, I think. I wasn't sure what to make of it. His author site ( cdaybell.com | The Official Website for Chad Daybell ) is still up. The publishing site was up when I first looked at it.

Odds are it isn't meaningful. I doubt Chad did something to cause it to come down after he disappeared, although we can't rule that out. More likely, IMO, is either it got hacked by someone and they messed something up, or possibly some maintenance needed to happen and didn't (probably not likely, but if something needed Tammy would have been the one to know what).

 

[Steelslady]

Thank you for the info. New to this site and stuff. Have a personal connection to this case and trying to sort it all out.

Welcome aboard. I hope it gets sorted out soon for you all.

 

[Mentalheadslap2018]

Also did anyone find marriage records of who Melanie and Alex Cox married in Nevada in November?

I think if you go to the timeline at the beginning of the thread, there are many links associated with the events, those links take you to the source.

 

[kelsie]

Thank you so much for transcribing this. Heartbreaking.

You're welcome, I don't always like watching videos and I have a bit of time on my hands right now, so I figured why not. if he releases any future videos I will try to do the same thing.

 

[Steelslady]

Would LE really think this is going to work?

Many times, the way to a Mamma's heart is her son.

It's worth a try, isn't it?

 

[tresir2012]

Translated Beings - Mormonism, The Mormon Church, Beliefs, & Religion - MormonWiki

Just discovered that there is a Mormon wiki.

 

[Chewy1972]

Yes. We can't post it here. So go here Clark Records Search And Order System and search each name.

ETA: Also, when you find Melani take the name of the person she married and search Idaho court records here Smart Search - iCourt Portal - Online records & payments for the Idaho courts

Open the two court cases you find and you will find the same attorney that represents Chad and Lori also represented this guy.

I did search for both and also did search for Alex Spouse who seems to have record on Arizona public record website Public Access Case Lookup Just an FYI

 

[tresir2012]

Many times, the way to a Mamma's heart is her son.

It's worth a try, isn't it?

Yes it is. I hope she does a Facetime with the kids. It could take all the heat out of the situation and Chad or their lawyer should encourage her to do it. MOO.

 

[Steelslady]

Well, now she apparently thinks she is a translated being (whatever that means) on a mission to prepare for the end of the world. I just don't see somebody (even if it is her son) pleading with her to do the right thing is going to work.

He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Do you know how many people, including family members of Tylee's and Joshua's, have been begging for him to reach out to his mother? Obviously he can't do this by phone with her. He's doing the only thing that he knows how to try and reach her, hoping that deep down, somewhere in her mother's loving heart, that she will listen to him or at the very least, provide LE where the kids are, if they are alive and well.

This guy can't catch a break at all. He's been, along with a couple of others from Joshua's family, TRYING! Where the heck are the Daybell kids and what have they done to convince Daddy to come forward or show proof the kids are alive? Or are they a part of this scheme?

 

[Gardener1850]

Yes, I mentioned this about a week ago, I think. I wasn't sure what to make of it. His author site ( cdaybell.com | The Official Website for Chad Daybell ) is still up. The publishing site was up when I first looked at it.

Odds are it isn't meaningful. I doubt Chad did something to cause it to come down after he disappeared, although we can't rule that out. More likely, IMO, is either it got hacked by someone and they messed something up, or possibly some maintenance needed to happen and didn't (probably not likely, but if something needed Tammy would have been the one to know what).

I think he took it down or stopped paying the fees for the book publishing website. His cdaybell site was drastically edited to remove most of the personal blog post links and remove any mention of his family from the main pages. I think they only left the blog posts announcing new books up on the main page. Some older blog posts are still findable if you know key search words but the blogs are not linked anymore.
@diggndeeperstill posted some cached pages from cdaybell website in the timeline thread: ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE* NO DISCUSSION

 

[jjenny]

He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Do you know how many people, including family members of Tylee's and Joshua's, have been begging for him to reach out to his mother? Obviously he can't do this by phone with her. He's doing the only thing that he knows how to try and reach her, hoping that deep down, somewhere in her mother's loving heart, that she will listen to him or at the very least, provide LE where the kids are, if they are alive and well.

This guy can't catch a break at all. He's been, along with a couple of others from Joshua's family, TRYING! Where the heck are the Daybell kids and what have they done to convince Daddy to come forward or show proof the kids are alive? Or are they a part of this scheme?

I am not blaming him at all. I just don't think it's going to work, that's all.

 

[utahobserver]

I was curious the date also.

The original edition is listed as 2008. It doesn’t appear to have been updated.