Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #18

[detectivehomemom]

Unless he is found guilty of murdering her, the money is his for now. The insurance company doesn’t usually request an autopsy. That determination was made by LE, the family, and the coroner I believe. The insurance company went by what they were told. She died of natural causes.

Question (apologies if this has been asked and answered already) - is it not standard operating procedure on a payout in excess of $400k life insurance for the insurance company to insist on an autopsy for someone of good health in their 40s?

Moreover, what are the odds of said insurance company coming back now to try and repossess such funds pending the current autopsy results since the death is now being investigated? Or do they have to wait now for adjudication in court for a murder at the hands of the beneficiary now that the money has already been released?

Thanks in advance for anyone who might shed light on the above![/QUOT

 

[carbuff]

Could Tylee have known too much about this instance for Lori's comfort? Maybe she just knew mom had borrowed her Jeep, then heard that a Jeep matching its description was involved? I don't think Lori got rid of her children just because they were cramping her style. She could have dropped JJ off with grandparents and emancipated Tylee. I think Tylee knew too much and Lori figured Tylee had told JJ.

But if the Yellowstone information is correct, Tylee was most likely not around by October when the shooting took place.

 

[FindingJoLee]

Maybe the Daily Mail report that Chad was excommunicated is true? I know many here have discounted that but only Chad (and some LDS clergy) would know. Am I correct in assuming that Chad could keep attending with Lori if she was in good standing and Chad could claim to the Kauai church leaders that he was trying to repent/gain back his membership? Or is that not how it works?
(I'm not LDS).

He can absolutely attend, anyone can until/unless they are invited not to if they become disruptive or abusive to the congregation trying to worship.

But the people in Chad's Rexburg congregation wouldn't be able to locate him in his local church directory* if he is no longer a member....

(The directory is an app called LDSTools, and it allows access to a ward member to the basic info on other ward members, and members in other wards within their own stake. That's it for most members. There are some additional types of access for various leadership positions.)

 

[RexburgSleuth]

Oh my gosh! I feel sick and I hope this isn't against the rules to post about. But I just discovered that the group Chad regularly did speaking conferences for, the one that we can't name here anymore due to the cease and desist request, had an event in Yellowstone in Sept 2019.

Now this group that we're not going to mention by name, stated in their press release that Chad last spoke for them in Feb 2019 and they are no longer affiliated with Chad in anyway. But that doesn't mean Chad (and Lori by association) stopped attending their conferences after Feb. So what I really, really want to know now is-- was Chad in Yellowstone in Sept 2019?

ETA: we probably need to proceed with caution in sleuthing this rabbit hole, but if anyone finds some evidence Chad or others associated with Lori went to that event in Yellowstone in Sept please send in a tip to the FBI or the Rexburg PD.

MOO.

The site says: "COME TO YELLOWSTONE in September! It's beautiful in the Fall, and REXBURG is a perfect place to have a Book of Mormon Evidence and Universal Model of Science EVENT!"
The event was Sat Sept 21.
It is common to mention Yellowstone as being local to Rexburg (1 hour 26 minutes away).

 

[DoctorAttorney]

Good heavens. Will they punt her back over the Pacific?

Eventually, yes. Hawaii probably wants her and Chad gone yesterday.

 

[tmar]

While I tend to avoid personal anecdotes, I'm a survivor of physical and emotional abuse. The highs were high, and the lows were low. It wasn't until I was picked up by my throat and thrown through the kitchen door into the garage that I had enough. In later years, I did some volunteer work with victims of abuse. The next phrase held true for me and most survivors and explains a lot:

Until the pain outweighs the pleasure, people will not make changes.

Jmo

CSIDreamer,

So sorry to hear of your horrid past, CSIDreamer, and great you have made changes to move on.
Here, your input is invaluable, as many don't understand these types of relationships.

In this case, with the kids being involved, until all the evidence is presented, we will be kept wondering.
MOO.

 

[JudesCrinkle]

Oh my gosh! I feel sick and I hope this isn't against the rules to post about. But I just discovered that the group Chad regularly did speaking conferences for, the one that we can't name here anymore due to the cease and desist request, had an event in Yellowstone in Sept 2019.

Now this group that we're not going to mention by name, stated in their press release that Chad last spoke for them in Feb 2019 and they are no longer affiliated with Chad in anyway. But that doesn't mean Chad (and Lori by association) stopped attending their conferences after Feb. So what I really, really want to know now is-- was Chad in Yellowstone in Sept 2019?

ETA: we probably need to proceed with caution in sleuthing this rabbit hole, but if anyone finds some evidence Chad or others associated with Lori went to that event in Yellowstone in Sept please send in a tip to the FBI or the Rexburg PD.

MOO.

Yes, I know. And, I’ve seen some chilling summarizations of the podcasts; however, thought it was against policy to link anything to ‘that group.’

 

[utahobserver]

She looks seriously worn down, exhausted and incredibly angry and having a hard time holding it in. Hopefully she is worn down enough to not take much to just give up all that she knows.

She has resting b*tch face.

 

[HaikuMommy]

Idaho Transportation Department Statewide cameras. I am sure these are being scrutinized.

Idaho Transportation Department - Low Bandwidth Web - Cameras - Route Selection

A neighbor's doorbell camera is also mentioned in documents released today. It recorded JJ playing outside on September 17 IIRC.

“A doorbell camera from a neighbor who lived directly across from Vallow recorded Joshua playing outside on Sept. 17... Joshua was enrolled at Kennedy Elementary for three weeks and was last seen alive here on Sept. 23”
New info revealed in Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan disappearance

Yes, you remember correctly.

I wonder if both kids could have gone missing after the 23rd? Though Tylee hasn’t been seen since the 9th, doesn’t mean she was gone since then (since she was no longer attending school, she may have been more reclusive). Any reason to think Tylee was definitely gone first?

 

[carbuff]

quoted post removed, so I removed my reply

 

[RexburgSleuth]

Idaho Transportation Department Statewide cameras. I am sure these are being scrutinized.

Idaho Transportation Department - Low Bandwidth Web - Cameras - Route Selection

Near Rexburg are cameras on Thornton on US 20 (3 miles south) and Fall River (15-20 miles north). Nothing on ID 33 west of Rexburg until I-15 through the desert area I mentioned before in my theory of Oct 2-3.

 

[utahobserver]

Adam Herbets on Twitter


Adam Herbets
@AdamHerbets

BREAKING: Lori Vallow (Lori Daybell) will be represented by a new private attorney today in Hawaii. According to his bio, Craig De Costa used to be the elected Prosecuting Attorney in Kauai.



1:28 PM · Feb 21, 2020·Twitter Web App

Cha Ching for Mr. DeCosta

 

[Sheila Terranova]

Adam Herbets on Twitter


Adam Herbets
@AdamHerbets

BREAKING: Lori Vallow (Lori Daybell) will be represented by a new private attorney today in Hawaii. According to his bio, Craig De Costa used to be the elected Prosecuting Attorney in Kauai.



1:28 PM · Feb 21, 2020·Twitter Web App

Certainly a very wise choice, an experienced prosecutor. But I wonder what happened to the one who was so offended people insinuated Lori was something less than mother of the year?

 

[carbuff]

can the insurance company take it back if Tammy’s death is suspicious?

Yes. It's called "insurance fraud."

 

[nhmemorymaker]

BBM. The picture is of parents and their four children. Another daughter died in 1998. I'm not aware of the sixth child.

One child, a girl, died at birth...I think it was 1971.

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

Certainly a very wise choice, an experienced prosecutor. But I wonder what happened to the one who was so offended people insinuated Lori was something less than mother of the year?

He is in Idaho

 

[Trask]

Oh my gosh! I feel sick and I hope this isn't against the rules to post about. But I just discovered that the group Chad regularly did speaking conferences for, the one that we can't name here anymore due to the cease and desist request, had an event in Yellowstone in Sept 2019.

Now this group that we're not going to mention by name, stated in their press release that Chad last spoke for them in Feb 2019 and they are no longer affiliated with Chad in anyway. But that doesn't mean Chad (and Lori by association) stopped attending their conferences after Feb. So what I really, really want to know now is-- was Chad in Yellowstone in Sept 2019?

ETA: we probably need to proceed with caution in sleuthing this rabbit hole, but if anyone finds some evidence Chad or others associated with Lori went to that event in Yellowstone in Sept please send in a tip to the FBI or the Rexburg PD.

MOO.

I could be wrong but I think that is just an advertising enhancement as a reason to come to the Sep 21 Rexburg event.

 

[OGDiva]

My money is on Melani. MOO

Who do we know that is involved with this group that is already in AZ that has ties to their organization and LE? Maybe there is something there to consider? MOO

 

[fred&edna]

Sadly you are correct.

Warning, gross stuff ahead!

Maybe they can get some indirect evidence--something she was wearing that wouldn't dissolve, or something. I remember a case here where a body was dissolved in acid and they were eventually able to get a conviction because they found gallstones on the ground in the area where the liquid was poured out. But those acidic hot pools are often very deep so the likelihood of something like that is pretty low.

I read they found C Scott's wallet and a couple of other items BUT that was immediately after he went in.

 

[KonaHonu]

Those Idaho officers might be hoping she fights extradition. I just looked at the weather forecast for Rexburg.

She has good lawyers: Our Team