Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #18

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I just watched the hearing. Knew her narcissistic butt would fight extraditing her back. I'm a big fan over here for the prosecution, he had defense all shaken up lol

Yes I just finished watching too. So her lawyer wanted $10k bail only. And he was dismissing the charges as a misdemeanour and a couple of felonies like they were nothing. He said and she confirmed to the judge that she doesn't have a passport. She is contesting the extradition so the next date she will be in court was stated to be 2nd March. Bail stayed at $5million.
 
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here is the follow up press conference with local pd from todays courts hearing

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Additional charges possible in Vallow/Daybell case

One of the charges against Lori states that both she and Chad tried to get their friend to lie about the kids’ location: a woman named Melanie Gibb who lives in Arizona.

If that name sounds familiar, that`s because she was their cohost on the “Preparing a People” podcast.

Our sources close to the family say Gibb has a lawyer and is cooperating with the investigation.
If the last sentence is true, I find that interesting. If she did not act in furtherance of Lori's solicitation to obstruct which is what the arrest warrant affidavit says then what other legal jeopardy does Melanie have? It may just be her being prudent but it could also be that she has some other involvement and cooperating is part of some deal to avoid prosecution.
 
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I am sure you will get many questions. From what I have learned here and elsewhere, I understand that Alex enjoyed performing. Was it stand up comedy? Also, from what we know of Lori, she also seems outgoing so I would think the family could be described as more extroverted and enjoy performing for others. Would you describe Alex as extroverted?

The comedy-shitick was short-lived right? Was he a truck driver for years and years?? Marriages? Children? Family shrouded in problems, mystery or the law. Are any of LVs family showing any support anywhere??? (I had totally forgotten about the truck driving as his job... so tried to edit here.... ha ha.... don't know how to edit here)
 
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Redvines86 said:
There is a horrible place you arrive at in this case when you realize both Lori and Chad are Stone Cold Evil. Then everything falls into place and all the events make sense. It's nauseating and horrible, but then everything comes together. MOO.


nhmemorymaker said:
extraordinarily well said. I truly believe that Lori was born "a bad seed", and Chad hides behind all "those callings, visions" as his protective veil... And then to see it all just look like a simple stereotypical mid-life-crisis, and greed, greed, greed. Just sortof makes one feel sick.






Both of these.
 
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The comedy-shitick was short-lived right? Was he a truck driver for years and years?? Marriages? Children? Family shrouded in problems, mystery or the law. Are any of LVs family showing any support anywhere??? (I had totally forgotten about the truck driving as his job... so tried to edit here.... ha ha.... don't know how to edit here)
You can use the edit button at the bottom of post. Editing ( ETA like this) can be done for up to 60 minutes after posting.

ETA like this or see above.
 
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There is a horrible place you arrive at in this case when you realize both Lori and Chad are Stone Cold Evil. Then everything falls into place and all the events make sense. It's nauseating and horrible, but then everything comes together. MOO.

Precisely

I followed another case which I won't name, where a sadist came together with a sociopathic fantasist and the results were tragic.

IMO what we see here is two toxic people, who together became killers.
 
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So you think it is possible Chad met Lori in July of 2018? Not before?
I would really appreciate any further wisdom on this issue---when Chad and Lori met....... I thought it was beginning of 2018--and now can't remember why that is the date that resonates. Hope someone can fill in some pieces.
 
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You can use the edit button at the bottom of post. Editing ( ETA like this) can be done for up to 60 minutes after posting.

ETA like this or see above.
What does ETA stand for???
 
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You can use the edit button at the bottom of post. Editing ( ETA like this) can be done for up to 60 minutes after posting.

ETA like this or see above.
Maybe I did get it edited without the first entry showing... at first, I couldn't remember alex was a truck driver... did that earlier entry show or not...I can't see it! Thanks for the instruction!!
 
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In reference to a number of posts and comments regarding the YouTuber who posts about things undone and incomplete with unnamed sources, and anything else out there, including what any of us (even I) might speculate. I'd like to just say one thing: Be careful what you believe.

Be wary of believing something you haven't or can't research on our own. If we are sleuths we can observe and make informed opinions. These may be wrong. I've been wrong here many times: I panicked when I saw a truck that looked like one registered to CV in footage of a double shooting in Arizona. The truck had nothing to do with the shooting. Just because something looks like it makes sense, doesn't mean it does. Another example: it very well may be that the dark grey 2018 Jeep Wrangler in AZ for BB shooting was the one from which the wheel and seat were removed and placed in the Idaho storage unit.

Okay, where am I going with this? Be careful if you can't find another source to verify. I need to do this as well. Speaking of the YouTube videos with unknown sources. There's one from Feb 7th. After the intro at about 1:40 the speaker says "Chad and Lori met September 23, 2018 through Jason Mow at the temple". I'm not going to go into anything else in the video because this is sufficient for me to establish credibility.

At which temple did they meet? Jason and Lori both lived in Arizona at the time. Mesa temple? Gilbert was opened 2014. It could be that one. OK. Fine. How about any number of temples between? Sure also possible. However, September 24, 2018 was Tylee's 16th birthday. I doubt Lori took a trip to be with Chad on such an occasion especially since we have no evidence of this. So Chad is visiting Arizona in September 2018? OK. But no. September 23, 2018 was a Sunday. The temples aren't open Sundays. OK. Maybe they met on temple grounds. Fine. That's acceptable. Easy-peasy. However, I happen know that September 23, 2018 was also a Sunday wherein Chad would have been in ward council (2nd and 4th Sundays of the month) in the early morning and then three hours of church (2-hour church wasn't announced until 2 weeks later and implemented the following January). The earliest he could have left for Arizona would be noon. Driving would not get him there until September 24th. Flying would have been unlikely as well because it would be more expensive from Idaho Falls if there was a flight or time consuming to drive 4+ hours to SLC and fly from there. Either way. Chad did not meet Lori Vallow at the temple on September 23, 2018.

It looks like the speaker of this story is misinformed in this first incident reported in the podcast. Assume she or her source tied the known connection Chad had with September 23 and postulated when it would have been ideal to have met.

If this didn't happen, what else in the story can be true? I don't know.

I've seen a photo of Chad at a book signing in Mesa, AZ on Jul 13, 2018 the same day as a poster for an event (see attached). I'm thinking it's more likely he met her then and there rather than the visionary-significant date of September 23, 2018.

I'm not saying I'm perfect or that you should believe everything I say. Please don't. Let's give opinions and hash things out. I want everything as tidy and explainable as the next sleuth, maybe even more-so than others: a friend of mine is dead! But we have to be careful.
RexS... I thought ....from somewhere......... we had thought they might have met very early in 2018... Lori going elsewhere, not Chad to Gilbert area....... Can anyone add to this thought...
 
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Maybe I did get it edited without the first entry showing... at first, I couldn't remember alex was a truck driver... did that earlier entry show or not...I can't see it! Thanks for the instruction!!
ETA means edited to add. You don't have to use that though. Your edit must have worked because on the post at the bottom it said edited 7 minutes ago. I don't think I saw the post before you edited it anyway.
 
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Hope Chad doesn't run before then.



Me too! He is diabetic & didn't eat tonight; he got some fluids & ate when we got home, so fingers crossed it was just slight dehydration (don't know how he always has water).
Ohmygoodness! LOL... I read that as you were saying you hoped Chad didn't run because he was diabetic and didn't eat tonight. That he (Chad) got some fluids and you arrived home to where he was.... LOL. I was like, what? How do you know what he ate? When did he become diabetic? Oh my goodness!

I may be too into this case. Hahahahahahahaaa I thought you were talking about Chad's diet.
Thanks for the inadvertent laugh.
Now. Seriously. I hope your furry one feels better this morning.
 
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The only thing that makes sense to me- if the kids are still here, is Lori’s parents hiding them. That would likely be who she would most trust, but given their advanced age & the other adult siblings- it doesn’t seem plausible...unless they’re living some RV lifestyle and traversing the country. This is the only remote scenario that makes sense to me, but given a certain person has some previous entanglements, I think LE would have combed this over deeply already.
Oh how I wish we did know more about the parents...they know how to stay out of MSM. But the stronger sense that both LV and MB were BOTH willing, and discussed, giving up their kids... I just don't see this overwhelming "need" to hide the kids. Weeks ago I did....thought kids just HAD to be part of the armageddon and the 144,000. But now I believe the outlandish ego-building beliefs, and greed are more powerful.
 
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RexS... I thought ....from somewhere......... we had thought they might have met very early in 2018... Lori going elsewhere, not Chad to Gilbert area....... Can anyone add to this thought...
I remember Chad did a book signing in Sugar City, Idaho and Lori had a PO Box address in Sugar City. So will need to check that date again.

I also believe they were at an eclipse campout in July 2017 and could have met there but MOO.
 
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My friend reading the case this am says: "She got rid of them all, she is the constant, She killed CV and made a deal with Alex likely with a payoff promise , she killed Tammy, her beautiful kids and then Alex." MOO. Feel sick.
 
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the moment i learned alex cox had died, you know that just proved to me the theory everyone is working on is correct
 
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Well, in weak support of my thought, LV and her family have a verifiable history of living in California, Texas and Arizona, possibly other jurisdictions. Based on court records, they also have a history of being anti-government (taxes don’t apply to them, just the rest of us) so they refuse to pay taxes, as documented by the many court cases. The current groups that LV and CD associate with and support publicly, are considered more anti-government or (Patriot groups). These groups tend to embrace their own version of the Constitution. With the Bundy case a while ago...they consider themselves “sovereign “ citizens. MOO
And not just taxes... LV siblings/former husbands--.jail terms, other cases... As far as I can see---all of the tax cases were denied. Is that your understanding as well? And I understand sovereign is the global sense... but can you put more words as to how these anti-government folks interpret "sovereign"... tia
 
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Hmmm also MG is in there too. Is this a register of land plot ownership or what exactly is it?
wow... very interesting. Always said that Z and LV were very close....maybe it all started with sharing a cup of tea with neighbors!!
 
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Was there ever any info about LV and A's sister (died in 98)life insurance beneficiaries?
 
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