Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #19

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That has to be some kind of cult speak, because an LDS stake president quoted another cult member saying essentially the same thing.
The way I understand it, they believe a person can be inhabited by a dark spirit. I guess then it's o'key to kill such a person in their mind. Not sure if it's an actual belief or just a convenient excuse to get rid of someone.
 
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I think I need to as well. There could be a sr and a jr, I suppose. I don’t remember the age difference. I’ll look too.
i just cannot find Lopez as a name of ZP.. as said earlier.. pastene is her maiden name.
 
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From what I have now read in the link posted upthread it was flooded and needed work so the city paid for it and it then became city property.

When the Teton Dam broke in the late 70s. Some parts of Rexburg were hit hard from what I've heard.
 
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The way I understand it, they believe a person can be inhabited by a dark spirit. I guess then it's o'key to kill such a person in their mind. Not sure if it's an actual belief or just a convenient excuse to get rid of someone.
This is exactly how I have interpreted this cult-speak phrase. The LDS church does believe a person can be possessed or affected/influenced by evil spirits much like in the New Testament, and that they can be cast out. However, these cases are not all that common, and NEVER NEVER NEVER cause to end someone's life since there is clearly a far better solution Biblicly-speaking
 
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I've known for years Chad is a jerk though I have never met the man. I became involved with this case because an author (not Julie) that published through Chad is a very close personal friend of mine. She's been trying to get the rights back to her books for years, and he delayed and delayed and hemmed and hawwed over it and finally said, sure... you pay me for the books you have in your possession and I'll send you the rights. She paid him, and he's NEVER sent her the legal rights to her books. This has been almost two years now that this has been going on. Technically he's in breach of contract with my friend and she COULD take him to court, but she's the one who first informed me of all this going on in December, and now I keep her up to date because she's going through a divorce from an abusive husband, has 10 total kids, but most are adults, and trying to get a degree so she can have a career to support herself with. But she's been saying for years what a jerk Chad is, and for a long time he treated her like a redheaded step child because he was enamoured of Julie Rowe... and now he's enamored of Lori apparently. So he's been a jerk for a VERY long time...

We know he has controlling behavior and is a manipulative and controlling *BEEP* because of how he treated Tammy. I suspect that's been a pattern since very early in his life.
quite informative.............thank you. Give her our deepest regrets... for having known him.
 
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The way I understand it, they believe a person can be inhabited by a dark spirit. I guess then it's o'key to kill such a person in their mind. Not sure if it's an actual belief or just a convenient excuse to get rid of someone.
I suspect it’s the latter. More of a justification for their own bad actions. MOO
 
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Mr. P's use of shouty capital LETTERS is disconcerting of itself let alone his content.
Now we know who started the Release Lori Vallow FB page, the one and only Mr. P.
 
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That is what they called the sub forum at AVOW (all of AVOW is basically a pay forum with one charge to get to the main thing and an additional charge to some subforums). No idea what it stands for, but that is the one where he hung out.
My vote is GRI=Getting Rich Insidiously
 
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Now we know who started the Release Lori Vallow FB page, the one and only Mr. P.
Lol if it was I wonder how he coped with all those dark spirits (the people sticking up for the kids) questioning him? I don’t think he would have coped with being questioned and ridiculed (and very often trolled). He doesnt strike me as the kind to take too well to being questioned MOO
 
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GRI - Global Research Initiative
 
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Lol true. And if you listen carefully, it sounds as though her attorney thought what he was asking was ludicrous (the $10k), but had to ask because that’s his job as her attorney.

As a side note, I looked up Jodi Arias since others have mentioned her here and I had never heard of her (yes, I was living under a rock during that time apparently). She had several attorneys try to step down from her case. I wonder if we’ll see the same thing with Lori once she gets back to Rexburg. :cool:;)
I imagine the lawyers will bankrupt her and then because the gov will not allow them to quit, they will file to be reimbursed by the gov.
 
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Now we know who started the Release Lori Vallow FB page, the one and only Mr. P.

Whoever it is seems to be an object lesson in the downside of Dunning-Krueger Syndrome.
 
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unfortunately, I am lost with this post. Could you elaborate more as to what this is meaning and referring to... so sorry, if it has been clear in former posts...
in IP's police statement he claimed Melani had used very similar language, it was cited as relevant to his concern for his children's safety.
 
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Wow, LV was said to have made a few statements about not wanting kids according to CV etc.. but this below is " not my problem, someone elses". It might be assumed or understood that Lori may not have been caring for JJ, meds and all ie.. she didn't say she was his mother etc... just that he was her nieces .., it has been said that Tylee was staying for JJ somewhere in another thread, perhaps she was doing a lot of the care and that is why she remained with her mom , for JJ.

"Neighbors said Vallow didn’t inform them about JJ Vallow being autistic and she told at least two neighbors he was her “niece’s drug baby,” after they confronted her about his behavior and lack of adult supervision when he played outside with other children."

I wonder WHO was taking care of JJ all along? Maybe it was mostly Charles and Tylee?
 
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That has to be some kind of cult speak, because an LDS stake president quoted another cult member saying essentially the same thing.
Luke 11:36 King James Version (KJV)
36 If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.

Just curious and so I looked up bible quotes

From her quoted phrase the first thing I thought of was full of light i.e. life and then goes dark i.e. death

MOO
 
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Can we get the readers digest condensed version of what the governor said? I can't find the caption button. Thank you! Jmo
 
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