Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #21

[BigAl16]

Can the judge in Hawaii call her out and say she has to present the children to get a bail reduction or would that only happen back in Idaho? Just wondering if there’s a (very small) chance something like that is going on behind the scenes? MOO

I think the chance of the judge actually saying that are less than zero. That's always been an option for her to make this mostly go away anyway, but the judge would be way overstepping to say or do that.

 

[AmandaSkis]

I’m confused about the bail hearing for tomorrow. I thought Idaho set the bail amount and only Idaho could reduce it. After all, the charges are from Idaho.

 

[justice be served]

Surely, if CD received $430,000 from TD life insurance, he has already blown through at least 35% of that amount in how many days? MOO

The insurance company may have held back taxes. MOO

 

[Redvines86]

I go back and forth, but if force to bet I would bet he will.

If he went to Utah, then it would be a lot easier to force him to go to Idaho if arrested? Since they both have the death penalty?

 

[BigAl16]

Apparently all of this publicity is doing wonders for CD books on Amazon.
I have to say it is a very unique strategy he is employing. If his books weren't getting attention before, they sure are now.
ROFL

If by "doing wonders" you mean picking up a ton of recent 1 star reviews from people who haven't read a word in the book, you're right.

 

[Queasy Gumshoe]

You guys, just a thought that popped into my head and it’s purely from my mind, so def IMO. I think this massive secret that is going to be revealed from LV & CD, is grandpa Woodcock touched /sexually abused JJ. So of course they are hiding him and Tylee from the Woodcocks. These “grandparents from hell” as Mr. P calls them, will never see them again and LV & CD are hero’s protecting their children. Remember Casey Anthony, she was (in a way) saved by accusations of abuse. MOO. It’s just something that could be coming down the road. If you disagree please feel free to giggle, it’s just a thought or actually a panic that shot through my brain. REMEMBER MOO.

 

[Portiz34]

The question I ask is: why is there such an increase of these kinds of cases? Is there another agenda at hand? Political? Will this be what they will use to try to make people think getting "chipped" is a good idea, so that we dont lose track of people, IMO all of these cases are related - by pure evil.

 

[Redvines86]

If by "doing wonders" you mean picking up a ton of recent 1 star reviews from people who haven't read a word in the book, you're right.

They're pretty funny, lol. MOO

 

[BigAl16]

If he went to Utah, then it would be a lot easier to force him to go to Idaho if arrested? Since they both have the death penalty?

I'm thinking if he went to Utah and then stayed away from Idaho, but they wanted to arrest him, that things would go much smoother getting him back to stand trial than from Hawaii. And TBH, getting Lori back from Hawaii is ultimately not going to be that big of a deal, plus a few Idahoans will get free trips to Hawaii out of the deal.

MOO

 

[CSIDreamer]

I'm thinking if he went to Utah and then stayed away from Idaho, but they wanted to arrest him, that things would go much smoother getting him back to stand trial than from Hawaii. And TBH, getting Lori back from Hawaii is ultimately not going to be that big of a deal, plus a few Idahoans will get free trips to Hawaii out of the deal.

MOO

Do you suppose Chad will try to get on the same flight back with Lori and her escorts?

Will they let him?

Will Lori have to fly in handcuffs and leg chains? Haha. Ha ha ha.

Jmo

 

[WhereIsWaldo]

Good, I wondered if maybe a teacher or admin had heard JJ say anything interesting MOO

You would think, right? The classroom teacher would have made observations, regarding behavior because now JJ is not in a private but public school in Idaho. It might help to explain his attendance for approximately three weeks before he was disenrolled, by his adoptive mother...to be home-schooled? Did LV have any verifiable experience in teaching let alone formal training with those considered developmentally disabled? MOO

 

[justice be served]

You guys, just a thought that popped into my head and it’s purely from my mind, so def IMO. I think this massive secret that is going to be revealed from LV & CD, is grandpa Woodcock touched /sexually abused JJ. So of course they are hiding him and Tylee from the Woodcocks. These “grandparents from hell” as Mr. P calls them, will never see them again and LV & CD are hero’s protecting their children. Remember Casey Anthony, she was (in a way) saved by accusations of abuse. MOO. It’s just something that could be coming down the road. If you disagree please feel free to giggle, it’s just a thought or actually a panic that shot through my brain. REMEMBER MOO.

Sigh...........if that's the best that anyone can come up with here, then okay. But actually, if that were the case which I doubt sincerely, then like any other sane person - one would simply speak up and have charges made on that. Sorry, don't buy it. These freak show people, Lori et al, are just bad people all the way around. JMO

 

[StrangerThanFiction]

**PTZ refers to a forum/website name "Pathway To Zion" run by author HS primarily.

Huh. And here I thought it meant “Part Time Zombie”. Who knew?

 

[Queasy Gumshoe]

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Sigh...........if that's the best that anyone can come up with here, then okay. But actually, if that were the case which I doubt sincerely, then like any other sane person - one would simply speak up and have charges made on that. Sorry, don't buy it. These freak show people, Lori et al, are just bad people all the way around. JMO

Just to be sure, I absolutely DO NOT think it’s a true story AT ALL! But Lori is a liar and that is the story I fear she and CD will use. That’s what I meant with my post. Trust me I don’t think it’s true but LV don’t care- it’s a great lie to save herself. MOO

 

[justice be served]

My rant: Kind of tired of all the extraneous discussions on religion with nutcase Lori and her peeps - let's cut to the chase. She has said she is done with her kids - and, guess what, they're gone! So, believe her. Sad to say, but all of the whirlwind end of earth crap is just a thinly veiled mirage and these kids are probably dead. Put this bi^&*# in jail, throw away the key. Just sick of how much energy has gone into trying to rationalize these people that are just terrible human beings. Okay, done for the night.

 

[WhereIsWaldo]

If he'd spent 35 percent of the $430,000, he'd still have $278,000 in the bank, not $152,000. In any event, I doubt he's spent much more than 30k (just air fares, hotels, rentals, lease down payments, etc.). I would think he has the rest of the funds (or something close) at a different location.

Thanks for the analytics but even based on your figures, CD could be down significantly, regarding their documented activities + legal costs, related to current legal action. MOO

 

[SouthernMom]

HELP. DID I STUMBLE ACROSS SOMETHING? LORI CONFESSION RECORDING??? “THOSE KIDS ARE GONE”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFAGaCYUIo&t=3159s

The comment that sends chills down my spine is near the end at around 1:50 where the youtube host quotes her anonymous prepper saying "This is about Lori and Chad. Chad wanting to be with Lori and Lori wanting money"

This case makes me more and more sad. Especially for the kids and the family members who are waiting to hear what has happened to them.

 

[Portiz34]

Theres a freakin free lori page?!!! What in the actual, I'll let you cussers fill in the blank

 

[Redvines86]

My rant: Kind of tired of all the extraneous discussions on religion with nutcase Lori and her peeps - let's cut to the chase. She has said she is done with her kids - and, guess what, they're gone! So, believe her. Sad to say, but all of the whirlwind end of earth crap is just a thinly veiled mirage and these kids are probably dead. Put this bi^&*# in jail, throw away the key. Just sick of how much energy has gone into trying to rationalize these people that are just terrible human beings. Okay, done for the night.

I worked with a long time LE guy for quite a while. one of his favorite quotes was, "Listen to people, they usually tell you the truth about themselves." MOO

 

[WhereIsWaldo]

My rant: Kind of tired of all the extraneous discussions on religion with nutcase Lori and her peeps - let's cut to the chase. She has said she is done with her kids - and, guess what, they're gone! So, believe her. Sad to say, but all of the whirlwind end of earth crap is just a thinly veiled mirage and these kids are probably dead. Put this bi^&*# in jail, throw away the key. Just sick of how much energy has gone into trying to rationalize these people that are just terrible human beings. Okay, done for the night.

I appreciate where you come from, regarding this case. It seems like it should be a simple case but, before it ever goes to trial, it is complex. The only simple and true fact about the case...two minor children are missing.