Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #22

[Snoods]

Ok. What is a toilet paper ringlet? I see the results but what's the process? I could go look it up but this is more fun.

I thought she was going dreaded..what i assume are her root-colored extensions already looked headed to dreaded to me. Oh boy i am full of the snark today.

Ha. I’ve never heard that before, but I’m guessing it’s using empty toilet paper rolls to curl your hair. It must be a female prison beauty hack. Her extensions look like they’re gone, she had to get creative.

 

[Anonymous91]

That’s true however the way I see it is that LV has always been successful in finding people to take care of her financially i.e. men, and when someone has that mindset they just spend what they have because since they’ve always found a source of money, they assume they always will be able to do so. I would think that especially with someone like her that is manipulative and narcissistic.... and She probably also feels that she “deserves” to live the high life style, which is much easier to do when you don’t have kids isn’t it ? She seems to have used most everyone in her life, so CD is just a means to an end, $$. She may have known him and admired him, but when the insurance money didn’t materialize as she had planned, she went with another option. He may be strong-willed, but someone with her personality disorder in my opinion would find any way to manipulate. Not to be rude, but he’s an OK looking guy but not a stunner, and many would think she is ... and I could see a man being very flattered by her “attentions”. Also, With her it doesn’t seem like a marriage is forever, and who knows if he already has life insurance policy or will “conveniently“ be getting one in the future. It looks apparent that she has gotten away with eliminating a lot of people in her life to her advantage. What’s one more? And I’m thinking she probably has a sense that she can get away with anything, narcissistic people do think that.
JMO

Then the brutal reality will finally strike. She is going to find herself unable to find anyone that will fall for her charms.

Even without the media frenzy, we all have a shelf life on how "good looking/attractive" we are. She is just about there.

When you don't have that, you have to rely on what really matters in a relationship. She won't make it very far. I know a handful of people like that, which are now very angry, bitter people. It's sad really.

What skills does she have to bring to a relationship? Not much. She can cut hair (slow clap)
How does she treat people? Well they seem to end up dead.
Is she a good mother and role model? ROFLMAO
Can she cook? Ask Alex.

Sadly it's learned behavior. In many ways, I think beautiful woman have to deal with this, more than the rest of us. Fortunately not everyone is skin deep and shallow. JMO

 

[Alohaj]

The trouble with the FSM is that the US can exert enormous pressure through the COFA. We get them LOTS of money.

And someone mentioned government benefits for citizens of COFA countries. We have lots of Marshallese and Kosraeans here. They can legally work in the US, go to school and much more. I think they are eligible for SNAP (food stamps) but they are not eligible for medicaid. States can exclude them and some, including Hawaii have excluded them.

I Worked in social services here on Maui and had many FSM and Marshallese clients, at that time they were eligible for Medicaid. Not sure if that law has changed

 

[KonaHonu]

I Worked in social services here on Maui and had many FSM and Marshallese clients, at that time they were eligible for Medicaid. Not sure if that law has changed

Lingle then Abercrombie changed things (the past 2 Hawaii governors).

 

[Snoods]

how commonly does the fbi get involved with missing minors cases? granted, this one is extremely high profile

The FBI can become involved in a missing child case even if no interstate transportation is known if the child is of “tender years,” 12 years or younger. I believe the state or local law enforcement needs to request their assistance.

 

[Alohaj]

Lingle then Abercrombie changed things (the past 2 Hawaii governors).

Lingle then Abercrombie changed things (the past 2 Hawaii governors).

Kona, you are so knowledgeable about all things Hawaii. However, You are not the only person from Hawaii on this forum, and I must say I see a lot of incorrect information being passed along.
Current governor is Ige, before that was Abercrombie 2010-2014, before that was Lingle ‘02 to 2010. My job working in that field specifically with that specific population of (Marshallese and FSM clients) was not after Lingle and Abercrombie. It Was just a few years ago and my clients collected Medicaid.
Please don’t represent things as fact that are just your opinion, thank you.

 

[Angleterre]

I'm looking for a source and can't find it. Maybe I dreamed it. I thought I saw an article from Lori's initial hearing where *someone* from Idaho was quoted as saying "we can have people there in a couple of days" to escort her back to Idsho. I just assumed they would just fly commercial. Does anyone remember that? Jmo

I'm googling all kinds of combos and can't find it.

Yes it was during the court hearing that was said

 

[Vegasgrl]

If Chad had anything to do with his wife's death, that would be the the first huge/bad/terrible infraction that he was responsible for in his entire life. On the other hand, it appears that Lori is at least a "one-off" in multiple felonies. I think she is the mastermind. Chad's siblings and children are accounted for. The longer theses two are separated, the more I am convinced Chad will crack. I never believed that these two believed in any doomsday BS. It's all about the $$$

 

[mrjitty]

If Chad had anything to do with his wife's death, that would be the the first huge/bad/terrible infraction that he was responsible for in his entire life. On the other hand, it appears that Lori is at least a "one-off" in multiple felonies. I think she is the mastermind. Chad's siblings and children are accounted for. The longer theses two are separated, the more I am convinced Chad will crack. I never believed that these two believed in any doomsday BS. It's all about the $$$

That's why it is pretty fascinating to know when Chad's involvement truly starts

e.g was he around Lori's place before the kids go missing?

 

[Vegasgrl]

That's why it is pretty fascinating to know when Chad's involvement truly starts

e.g was he around Lori's place before the kids go missing?

He may be pondering the big bag of BS she's been feeding him. I think he's responsible for his wife's death. But, I think this dummy had no idea about the other murders/missing children. He was believing her "stories" about family issues regarding JJ and Tylee. The longer they are separated the better. He'll take a plea, or suicide if he's incarcerated. MOO.

 

[tresir2012]

Bubba, his future cellmate.

LOL.

 

[Anonymous91]

If Chad had anything to do with his wife's death, that would be the the first huge/bad/terrible infraction that he was responsible for in his entire life. On the other hand, it appears that Lori is at least a "one-off" in multiple felonies. I think she is the mastermind. Chad's siblings and children are accounted for. The longer theses two are separated, the more I am convinced Chad will crack. I never believed that these two believed in any doomsday BS. It's all about the $$$

That we know of Chad is not an innocent victim in this, but he may be more innocent than we give him credit for.

We do know that he has:

- He lied to LE of where the kids were.
- Asked Melanie to lie to LEO
- Married LVD less than 3 weeks after his wife died.

What we suspect:

- Possibly fled to Hawaii with Lori (However, we do not know if this was pre-planned)
- Potentially had an affair (However, at this point LEO has not shown any evidence to support this. The Woodcocks were the one that said she was flirting with him).
- Strongly suspected he is involved in TD death (no proof as of yet)
- Strongly suspected he is involved with the kids disappearance.

If I am missing anything, let me know.

So going off of what we know only, it's minor. What we suspect is definitely a different story.

Chad may have just have gotten in over his head, at this point, we don't know.

So, until further evidence comes out, I am going to go easy on Chad. Lori is a whole other case though. She is definitely guilty, at the very least, of premeditated murder. She may not have been the one who pulled the trigger, but I am convinced she planned this out. MOO

 

[tresir2012]

Twitter

So maybe IP did not turn on MBP after all? It says he is there with her at court.

Hard to follow. Isn't he supposed to have intimated she was involved in the shooting attempt?

 

[tresir2012]

That we know of Chad is not an innocent victim in this, but he may be more innocent than we give him credit for.

We do know that he has:

- He lied to LE of where the kids were.
- Asked Melanie to lie to LEO
- Married LVD less than 3 weeks after his wife died.

What we suspect:

- Possibly fled to Hawaii with Lori (However, we do not know if this was pre-planned)
- Potentially had an affair (However, at this point LEO has not shown any evidence to support this. The Woodcocks were the one that said she was flirting with him).
- Strongly suspected he is involved in TD death (no proof as of yet)
- Strongly suspected he is involved with the kids disappearance.

If I am missing anything, let me know.

So going off of what we know only, it's minor. What we suspect is definitely a different story.

Chad may have just have gotten in over his head, at this point, we don't know.

So, until further evidence comes out, I am going to go easy on Chad. Lori is a whole other case though. She is definitely guilty, at the very least, of premeditated murder. She may not have been the one who pulled the trigger, but I am convinced she planned this out. MOO

I think they are both involved in what has happened to the kids and have lied about it. They are in it together IMO.

 

[Anonymous91]

I think they are both involved in what has happened to the kids and have lied about it. They are in it together IMO.

I have a strong suspicion you may be right, but giving him the benefit of the doubt for now. JMO

 

[Alohaj]

So he's fine chatting about things with random strangers now? Lori - be worried, you're losing that tight grip

I don’t doubt that the reporter spoke to this Sharon woman, but I don’t see that CD will be talking with a Stranger about all this

 

[tresir2012]

?? Anyone??

I haven't watched it. When did it air? I don't remember anyone else mentioning it yet. Let us know what you think.

 

[tresir2012]

Dude. We knew for sure that wasn’t Chad.

I'm not a dude. And it is good to have it confirmed in MSM he wasn't there. You may be sure it wasn't him because you know him. But you weren't in the court room (presumably) so could not say if he was there or not. The reporters were there and have confirmed he wasn't there so I posted the link.

 

[Vegasgrl]

I think they are both involved in what has happened to the kids and have lied about it. They are in it together IMO.

Guess I have a different take regarding the children. Obviously Chad is going along with her lies, but I'm not convinced he actually knows/believes that the children were harmed. I feel differently about his resonsibility/involvement in Tammy's death. Unfortunately, at least to me, it seams to be an extreme midlife crisis type relationship with strange religious propaganda and financial problems in the mix - for Chad. Lori is an opportunist mixed with narcissist and a shot of no-one-will-catch-me.

 

[Alohaj]

How and when will Lori Vallow, mother of two missing Rexburg kids, return to Idaho?

Sgt Payne says of her flight back,
“...that would mean having her dress in her plain clothes, not a jail uniform of any kind, generally speaking we board first, a seat at the back of the plane, those types of things.”

“As of Wednesday afternoon, the Madison County Sheriff's Office didn't have any specifics for which flight or path Vallow would be on, but they say that information must be kept private. However, they did reveal that typically in these types of scenarios, they’re looking for the most direct route, with the least amount of layovers.”

I’m quite positive she won’t get all the way across the pacific, from the SLC or Boise airport (if lucky, the Idaho falls airport), and north up highway 20 all the way to Rexburg without one person noticing. Whenever she comes back, the powers of the concerned public, the coconut wireless and the media will unite and the world will probably know. I could be wrong, and it would certainly be “safer” if she is brought back undetected.
Moo

Honolulu has a daily redeye to Salt Lake City. Took it a few months ago.