Besides Lori and Chad and their alleged dirty deeds, I'm not sure there are violent, criminal acts associated with, or inspired by AVOW? I think they are nuttier than a case of cashews at Costco, but...
HA HA. My youngest, her nickname was "little bit" for years. She's now a rocket scientist at Northrup Grumman.
That’s what I think. They will say Alex did it but did not tell Lori he killed them. That he told her he hid them. And she has no idea where they are but she told Alex to hide them. Therefore: plausible deniability
Indeed, last week we heard a report that Melani had admitted to her new husband that she was involved in the attempt on BB's life. But now she's "co-operating"? To me, sounds like she is dropping the dime on Lori / Chad for immunity. And she thinks she is going to get custody? Fat chance!
Minor correction, it was posted/published 10/31. I'd love to see the rest of what he said about her passing, but I don't subscribe to AVOW/GRI anymore and besides it would seem from my sources who do subscribe that CP may have blocked access to this particular post for whatever reason. Makes one wonder what they're hiding.
I asked Julie on Twitter, "Do you see the kids in the forest, or a hot acid pool?" She blocked me.
BBM. Quite the plug for his forum, imho. Gotta keep his members interested, or even get some new ones, right?
It's not equivalent of course, but the KKK are still allowed to hold marches. The SPLC simply includes AVOW on a list of anti-government groups (which, if I understand correctly, qualifies them for the domestic terrorist watch list). What these lists mean in reality for us, or for the FBI, has been discussed thoroughly, and it's been suggested we get away from the political stuff. But I thought I would try to answer your question. MOO.
@ThinkoutLoud and @nhmemorymaker are correct of course, @indicolite22. I thought I should point out (as there as been much discussion, and perhaps some confusion, about this in the past) that fundamentalist and fringe LDS-related groups may feel different about this. In fact, these alternative views may be how Chad and his associated groups came to believe such. I could point you to some blog posts with much more in-depth discussion of the matter, message me if you like - I'm not sure what goes as far as posting about that sort of thing. Or you might try googling LDS and "multiple mortal probations" or even Joseph Smith and "multiple mortal probations" to get an idea of what true Mormons, ex-Mormons, or alternative, fringe-type (or even fringe-fringe-type like Chad) "Mormons" have to say about the matter. It is discussed quite a bit on some LDS-related forums.
Are the founder and the current owner the same person? I mean has someone actually seen two different faces for these two people?
HA HA! Indeed, it's the million dollar question. Lori lucked into $75k from Joe Ryan, and now it's her new line of work, collecting on life insurance. CV was #2 and Tammy #3. OOOPS, CV saw it coming and changed bene's. Oh snap! Now what is little witch Lori going to dream up? Yeah, I'll bet the schemes in her head... ARE complicated. Poor Chad, caught in her honey trap. How does he explain to his parents and kids that he was involved in the brokering of these two innocent children?Just from the title, it could mean a few things, but in this case, at this time, it’s a good bet it’s related to the transfer from Hawaii.
Maybe because it’s a “custody battle” where they’re not trying to KEEP JJ, but instead get a million dollars for transferring custody of him to KW&LW? And KW&LW countered by saying they would just sue for custody based on LV trying to SELL her kid. So LV put the kids “into hiding” (Tylee first, to prepare the hiding place) to make sure KW&LW didn’t get custody through the courts.
And then KW&LW counter by sending evidence of CV’s murder to the police and then LVD counters by having Alex “die naturally” because what police dept is going to pursue a murder case when the murderer is dead too?
The only problem with all of this is it would require the grandparents to be hiding a lot of information, and also it’s completely a figment of my imagination.
Sign me up!I second that. I have a serious obsession with this case. We need a support group after this.
We should call it "The Doomsday Addiction Recovery Group", DARG for short.
I live in Rexburg and we hide when the Mormons come knocking too!
Living in the intermountain west amongst these folks, I can tell ya, they are generally pretty strong conservative minded and mostly vote GOP. (as you can see on POTUS voting maps) That said, yes, historically, "less government regulations, less involvement needed, keep out of our business, we're doing fine, thank you." But people are concerned about kids as well. This is an isolated case with child victims, and IMHO they welcome LEA joining to either find the kids or complete a legal resolution. They would be offended these people harm children in their midst. At least, I am!
Just a thought, but I wonder if some major news outlet/ program like 60 mins offered Chad a boatload of cash, he would do a long interview or special?
He has shown in the past that he likes the attention, plus he could blast his strange Prepper theories to the world and he has a clear need for money... They could claim "we want to tell your story" or "clear your name"... I feel like someone with a good read on his psychology/ motivations could possibly convince him. Maybe Lori as well, but I think that's less likely.
It certainly would offer some great clue's if they actually could get an in depth piece.
Also I do think LE is intentionally placing stories in the press, there is a strategy at work here, maybe hoping one will crack, also a divide and conquer tactic... and things certainly seem to be heating up.
MOO.
Anyway, it's super late here and 7 yr old lil guys get up eeeearly! So g'night my fellow Support Group... what was it again DPSG? I'm blanking
