Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #31

[spandangly]

I can't watch the first one in my region. Is that the one where they mention threats?

No, the 3 minute video also does not include it. Just watched it.

 

[Sticksandspades]

That's what I'm trying to point out. When I click your link for video 2, the video is only 2:23 long, not the 4+ it used to be! I felt it was the best video, but now I can't access it!

OK That's totally bizarre - I get the whole thing. Could that be because I'm in Arizona?

 

[Tortoise]

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
3 mins ·
PAST LIVES: When I first read the divorce paperwork filed by Charles Vallow’s attorneys from February 2019, this part truly made no sense to me. Charles accused Lori Vallow of being obsessed with near death experiences and visions. He said she believed she was married to the prophet Moroni in a past life. Sources tell me Charles had this phone call with Lori at the end of January 2019.

But tonight - we reveal a document Lori received from Chad a week before that alleged call with Charles. More than year later - these strange details start to make sense. And it appears, not only Lori lived several past lives — but so did her missing son JJ according to the doomsday author himself. Special report coming up.

follow link to read documents (extracts from Charles' divorce petition we've already seen) Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

another comment from Justin Lum underneath that post -
Author
Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix The excerpts in the post are a precursor or refresher if you will. What we share tonight — is also in the hands of FBI. It’s connected to the documents on light and dark spirits we uncovered last week. We will continue to push digital evidence, facts and bring in people with insight.

 

[Sticksandspades]

OK That's totally bizarre - I get the whole thing. Could that be because I'm in Arizona?

OK I'm going to attempt to records my screen playing it.

 

[Picklepuck]

OK That's totally bizarre - I get the whole thing. Could that be because I'm in Arizona?

I'm in AZ too, and I watched all the clips, but I cannot find any mentioning of the threats to Lori. Help! Lol

 

[Onsdag]

Potentially heartbreaking news coming out of a local area here in Utah. Two teenage girls have gone missing on Utah lake and are feared to have been caught up in a wind storm that swept through last night.

Crews searching for missing girls on Utah Lake

What does this have to do with the Vallow case? Well, I just wanted to point out and contrast the difference between these two separate cases.

In the case of the two missing girls one of the mothers tried contacting her daughter and immediately as soon as she found out her daughter was missing called LE. Everybody is concerned and have been looking for these two girls - the family, LE, search and rescue, volunteers, community, etc. They've even had a helicopter flying out over Utah Lake trying to find the girls.

Lori Vallow? Never once called police since the children went missing. Lori? Chad, her new husband? Nope. He brushed them off like they were non-existent, or at best a nuisance. Melani and Ian, the cousins? Not in the least. Grandma and Aunt Cox? Apparently not. They'll just laugh over people's concerns. Chad's children, their new brothers and sisters in law? Heaven's no. They'll stick their tongues out at the people who are concerned and pretend it's a big circus and much ado about nothing. In spite of nobody having seen the children in over 8 months, and nobody seems to know where they are, nobody in the Daybell or Cox families have ever publicly expressed any kind of concern or worry for the welfare and safety of these children. At all. What in the world is wrong with this picture? That is not how normal people react to missing and endangered children.

Grandpa and Grandma Woodcock care though, they're the ones who initiated a welfare check after not hearing from them. They're the only ones in the family, along with Colby and BB, who have shown any kind of concern for these children. They are the ones who have been pushing for answers. They are the ones who have been hoping against hope to see these children again and be reunited with them. This is how normal people, who love others, react when children go missing.

As clearly evidenced with this new case of the two missing girls on Utah Lake. Normal people care. Why don't the Cox's and Daybell's?

 

[tresir2012]

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
3 mins ·
PAST LIVES: When I first read the divorce paperwork filed by Charles Vallow’s attorneys from February 2019, this part truly made no sense to me. Charles accused Lori Vallow of being obsessed with near death experiences and visions. He said she believed she was married to the prophet Moroni in a past life. Sources tell me Charles had this phone call with Lori at the end of January 2019.

But tonight - we reveal a document Lori received from Chad a week before that alleged call with Charles. More than year later - these strange details start to make sense. And it appears, not only Lori lived several past lives — but so did her missing son JJ according to the doomsday author himself. Special report coming up.

follow link to read documents (extracts from Charles' divorce petition we've already seen) Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

The additional documents are not loading for me. Is there another source other than FB?

 

[indicolite22]

SBM. The communication SS claimed with "TR" on 9/24 was a text, not a call. So, even SS really has no idea who created and sent it although as you indicate, she clearly was attempting to present it to muddy the waters about when TR disappeared.

ETA: This potentially distances the date of TR's disappearance from 9/23 which was a significant date for CD.

Last seen date for Tylee is still September 8. Her aunt Summer's purported texts from September 24 prove nothing, since at least two other people (Colby and Tylee's friend) who exchanged texts with Tylee after that date suspected that someone was impersonating her.

 

[Tortoise]

The additional documents are not loading for me. Is there another source other than FB?

I don't think so. It's just a few paragraphs where Charles writes that Lori says she is sealed to prophet Moroni and was married to James the Just in a past life, as well as being Mary French in the 1800s, a translated being who cannot taste death and sent by God to lead the 144,000.

 

[WeAreWatching]

Potentially heartbreaking news coming out of a local area here in Utah. Two teenage girls have gone missing on Utah lake and are feared to have been caught up in a wind storm that swept through last night.

Crews searching for missing girls on Utah Lake

What does this have to do with the Vallow case? Well, I just wanted to point out and contrast the difference between these two separate cases.

In the case of the two missing girls one of the mothers tried contacting her daughter and immediately as soon as she found out her daughter was missing called LE. Everybody is concerned and have been looking for these two girls - the family, LE, search and rescue, volunteers, community, etc. They've even had a helicopter flying out over Utah Lake trying to find the girls.

Lori Vallow? Never once called police since the children went missing. Lori? Chad, her new husband? Nope. He brushed them off like they were non-existent, or at best a nuisance. Melani and Ian, the cousins? Not in the least. Grandma and Aunt Cox? Apparently not. They'll just laugh over people's concerns. Chad's children, their new brothers and sisters in law? Heaven's no. They'll stick their tongues out at the people who are concerned and pretend it's a big circus and much ado about nothing. In spite of nobody having seen the children in over 8 months, and nobody seems to know where they are, nobody in the Daybell or Cox families have ever publicly expressed any kind of concern or worry for the welfare and safety of these children. At all. What in the world is wrong with this picture? That is not how normal people react to missing and endangered children.

Grandpa and Grandma Woodcock care though, they're the ones who initiated a welfare check after not hearing from them. They're the only ones in the family, along with Colby and BB, who have shown any kind of concern for these children. They are the ones who have been pushing for answers. They are the ones who have been hoping against hope to see these children again and be reunited with them. This is how normal people, who love others, react when children go missing.

As clearly evidenced with this new case of the two missing girls on Utah Lake. Normal people care. Why don't the Cox's and Daybell's?

Because in their eyes JJ and Tylee aren't "missing"

 

[indicolite22]

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
3 mins ·
PAST LIVES: When I first read the divorce paperwork filed by Charles Vallow’s attorneys from February 2019, this part truly made no sense to me. Charles accused Lori Vallow of being obsessed with near death experiences and visions. He said she believed she was married to the prophet Moroni in a past life. Sources tell me Charles had this phone call with Lori at the end of January 2019.

But tonight - we reveal a document Lori received from Chad a week before that alleged call with Charles. More than year later - these strange details start to make sense. And it appears, not only Lori lived several past lives — but so did her missing son JJ according to the doomsday author himself. Special report coming up.

follow link to read documents (extracts from Charles' divorce petition we've already seen) Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

I never doubted that Chad the prophet came up with all the religious mumbo-jumbo that Lori relayed to Charles.

 

[Tortoise]

Potentially heartbreaking news coming out of a local area here in Utah. Two teenage girls have gone missing on Utah lake and are feared to have been caught up in a wind storm that swept through last night.

Crews searching for missing girls on Utah Lake

What does this have to do with the Vallow case? Well, I just wanted to point out and contrast the difference between these two separate cases.

In the case of the two missing girls one of the mothers tried contacting her daughter and immediately as soon as she found out her daughter was missing called LE. Everybody is concerned and have been looking for these two girls - the family, LE, search and rescue, volunteers, community, etc. They've even had a helicopter flying out over Utah Lake trying to find the girls.

Lori Vallow? Never once called police since the children went missing. Lori? Chad, her new husband? Nope. He brushed them off like they were non-existent, or at best a nuisance. Melani and Ian, the cousins? Not in the least. Grandma and Aunt Cox? Apparently not. They'll just laugh over people's concerns. Chad's children, their new brothers and sisters in law? Heaven's no. They'll stick their tongues out at the people who are concerned and pretend it's a big circus and much ado about nothing. In spite of nobody having seen the children in over 8 months, and nobody seems to know where they are, nobody in the Daybell or Cox families have ever publicly expressed any kind of concern or worry for the welfare and safety of these children. At all. What in the world is wrong with this picture? That is not how normal people react to missing and endangered children.

Grandpa and Grandma Woodcock care though, they're the ones who initiated a welfare check after not hearing from them. They're the only ones in the family, along with Colby and BB, who have shown any kind of concern for these children. They are the ones who have been pushing for answers. They are the ones who have been hoping against hope to see these children again and be reunited with them. This is how normal people, who love others, react when children go missing.

As clearly evidenced with this new case of the two missing girls on Utah Lake. Normal people care. Why don't the Cox's and Daybell's?

I agree. Annie Cushing deserves a mention here too, amongst those pushing for answers.

 

[Sticksandspades]

I'm in AZ too, and I watched all the clips and cannot find any mentioning the threats to Lori, either. Help! Lol

This is so frustrating.

I just recorded the whole thing and the file is too big. Anyone have any ideas how
I can share this?

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

It's at the very end and the interview is asked questions by his colleagues. This is the second video released.
Lori Vallow's family says she would not hurt children

I only get a little over 2 minutes. Janis says "It's been devastating not to see Tylee and JJ in such a long time, we loved them so much" while staring straight at the floor, then turns to look at Summer and says "It's been devastating not to see Lori". She can't seem to look the interviewer in the eyes when she talks.

Also "we loved them" is past tense.

 

[Diddian]

Last seen date for Tylee is still September 8. Her aunt Summer's purported texts from September 24 prove nothing, since at least two other people (Colby and Tylee's friend) who exchanged texts with Tylee after that date suspected that someone was impersonating her.

It's also notable that in those texts, it was ALWAYS the other person who initiated the text exchange.

 

[Deerrun]

I would like to know, since we now see Lori's family in no way thinks she could/would have hurt the kids, then why are they not helping with her bail. Watch what they do and not what they say. I believe between the lot of them they could come up with the collateral (unless they are hiding monies from the irs/gov) They seem to believe in her on camera. Imo all they are doing is damage control and trying to sway public opinion.
I don't believe they trust their daughter or sister enough to help her out of jail, jmo

 

[tresir2012]

The thing is, if she has pulled out this call from the records because it's Lori's number, we know it couldn't have been Lori on the call because she is on camera at the storage unit at that time. We can forget Lori's physical location, it's the fact that she can be seen not talking on a phone at that time, and she is driving, signing a contract and unloading a tote into the unit.

So it means someone else was using Lori's number. Now for argument's sake say Tylee was given Lori's phone. Grandma didn't say she spoke to Tylee on October 1st. So I believe Lori gave her phone to someone else, and it's most likely a family member for a call of that duration. I think Alex makes the most sense, if we are thinking he probably took steps not to use his own phone during that mission. It was the day before Brandon's shooting.

Whatever time was on the clock at the storage place was an hour out, according to the footage analysed by Nate Eaton for October 2nd. This means the clock shows she was there at 3.32pm, and the real time was 4.32pm. At 4.32pm in Idaho, I believe it was 3.32pm in Arizona on that date. I'm not exactly sure I've got the daylight savings changes the right way around, but that was the impression I retained from reading earlier posts. The call on Grandma's phone (actually it says Barry Cox at the top of the log, but he could just be the bill payer) lasted from approx 3pm to 4.30pm, so it encompasses the duration of time Lori was at the storage unit.

I think she probably doesn't remember the exact date she last spoke to JJ, especially 7 months afterwards, and if she told police this when they were first looking for him, and then preparing the affidavit for Lori's arrest, it would have been worthy of note in the paperwork, especially the location of the phone. At any rate, if it was on October 1st, she would know he wasn't with Lori and it would be relevant to state who she was talking to. By omission, with the importance of establishing who he was with, it looks like she thinks she spoke to Lori at that time, which reveals the unreliability of her memory.

I think it's funny that the date and time exactly coincides with the date of the cctv footage of Lori. The timing couldn't be more perfect. If it was an hour later we wouldn't know. It's like the other critical date, when MP's lawyers jumped on the reporting error that it was Alex at the storage unit. Oops! Turns out the storage unit camera has been a brilliant witness.

moo

All good points. Now also she surely would not have been on the phone with JJ for an hour and a half because I think it has been said by Kay and Larry that his calls are always short and sporadic and so I think that would be a long time for him to be on the phone all within one call.

 

[Hatfield]

I don't think so. It's just a few paragraphs where Charles writes that Lori says she is sealed to prophet Moroni and was married to James the Just in a past life, as well as being Mary French in the 1800s, a translated being who cannot taste death and sent by God to lead the 144,000.

Of course.
Most all of us were just mere peasants in our past lives, but Lori gets to be married to the "brother of Jesus" / "James the Just".

James, brother of Jesus - Wikipedia

 

[Alpha Bravo]

I don't think so. It's just a few paragraphs where Charles writes that Lori says she is sealed to prophet Moroni and was married to James the Just in a past life, as well as being Mary French in the 1800s, a translated being who cannot taste death and sent by God to lead the 144,000.

She hasn't tasted death, but every single day she tastes that wonderful jail food. Shells and cheese?

 

[Alpha Bravo]

I only get a little over 2 minutes. Janis says "It's been devastating not to see Tylee and JJ in such a long time, we loved them so much" while staring straight at the floor, then turns to look at Summer and says "It's been devastating not to see Lori". She can't seem to look the interviewer in the eyes when she talks.

Also "we loved them" is past tense.

That women has two premature deaths of her children, one in jail looking at a life sentence, and her husband spent time in the pen too. Is her name Bonnie Barrow?