Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #33

[MsJosie]

That's been my experience as well.

yes....and never once did they push their faith on me, but always
Included me if they could....a bad apple or two sometimes spoils the basket but knowing the good apples before I won’t let these two turn me away from any Mormon...

 

[Onsdag]

More proof (to me, anyways) that they all knew what each other person was doing, was Melani's reaction (or lack thereof) when LE entered her home to look for the kids. No big deal. No surprise or concern whatsoever. Just continue on to Vegas to get married, all part of the plan. So, so obvious she and Ian already knew the kids were gone. Moo.

I agree with your overall statement that that they all knew what was going on in each other's lives. She knows more than she's pretending to. However, I actually believe she has shown concern over LE's presence and actions, but she's desperately trying hard to pretend like it hasn't bothered her. And it is because of this that suggests to me that she is deeply involved and intertwined in this whole mess. Her words and actions betray a guilty conscience, despite protestations to the contrary. As an example, from the interview with Nate Eaton (BBM):

Eaton: When did you guys find out there was an investigation and JJ and Tylee were missing?

Melani: I’m foggy on this date but (Rexburg Police) Detective Hermosillo and another gentleman had come to my door while I was moving my stuff in so it had to have been early in November – I’d guess the second week in November.

I get a knock at the door, and I open it and see police, and I’m jumpy because what is my ex up to? What’s the next thing? Are my kids OK?

The detective said, “Do you know who lives next door?” And I said, “Yes, I think Alex’s name was on the lease, so sometimes my uncle’s over there, sometimes my aunt goes over there,” and I didn’t know what that was about. That was it. That was my first encounter with Rexburg Police.

Eaton: And that’s when they said the kids are missing?

Melani: No, no. This was early November. Then right before Thanksgiving, we’re driving down to Arizona to meet Ian’s family and have Thanksgiving, and I get a text from (Rexburg Police) Lt. Ball that says, “Somebody’s broken into your home. I need you to call me right away.”

I’m immediately like, “Oh great. My ex has sent somebody. I knew he had a private investigator following me, and I immediately thought he sent somebody to come break into my house. I didn’t know what to text back – I was kind of processing it.”

Then later, I texted back, “Well, I’m with people I love on Thanksgiving, and at least that’s what’s important.” If whatever the heck was taken – I had my emergency cash savings and I had a computer, an iPad, an old phone I didn’t use – I didn’t know what had been taken, but I was like, if my whole apartment is robbed, it’s OK. I got everything I need. It’s not about things.

Then he said, “I need you to call me,” and then I later found out it was the Rexburg Police. They had knocked down my door and taken a lot of my things. I kind of felt bothered about the text I got but I understand they’re just doing investigation.

As soon as I returned after Thanksgiving, I went right into Detective Hermosillo and was like, “What’s going on? I’m here to get my stuff.” He asked me about my previous marriage, what was I doing here, and he asked me about Lori and Alex. I was an open book and said, “Here’s what I know. Lori and Chad had left probably right around when I was going down to Arizona. They packed up and left, and I think it was a planned move. It wasn’t last minute because they had talked about moving to Hawaii at some point. They told Ian when they met, ‘You’ll have to come visit us in Hawaii sometime.'”

So here we have Melani admitting that she was nervous and "jumpy" when she first encountered Rexburg Police when they came knocking on her door. What would cause her to be nervous and jumpy around police? Well, the very next words out of her mouth indicate that it's because she feels it's in regards to her husband, Brandon Boudreaux. She couches her words to make it sound like it's because she thought Brandon was up to no good, or that her children were in danger, but I'm not buying it. We have the text exchange between BB and MP wherein she essentially tells BB that she was moving to Idaho and for him to keep the kids. He tried to get her to reconsider, saying that the children needed stability and their mother in their lives (this despite the attempt on his life, clearly he was concerned for the best interest of the children), but apparently she wasn't interested in that. He then applied for full custody and she never showed up to court to contest it. This tells me that she was trying to distance herself from him and the kids, for some reason. The only believable reason, to me at least, why she would be nervous and jumpy with the police knocking on her door, and why BB was the first thing on her mind, was because there had been an attempt made on his life just weeks earlier and in all likelihood she thought they were there in regards to that. And why would she be scared for that unless there was reason to believe she was somehow connected to or involved with that attempted murder?

Well, as it turned out the police weren't there for her directly, they were inquiring about her neighbor, and if she knew who lived there. She told them her uncle Alex lived there, and they left. One has to wonder if the police even knew Melani lived there and knew of her relationship with Alex when they knocked on her door that day, or if they were trying to covertly investigate Alex at that point. Anyways, Melani claims to have not known "what that was about," but I suspect she did. Why would the police be looking to find out who lived next door unless the person who lived there was a person of interest in some kind of crime or investigation? And it's obviously not in regards to the missing children, as Melani admits.

Surely she would have talked with Alex and the others about the police asking around about him, right? That probably would have made everyone a bit nervous and edgy.

Later that month there is a welfare check for the kids (initially just JJ, until later they discover Tylee is missing too) and everybody in this family scatters like roaches when a light switch is flipped on. Chad and Lori hurriedly fly to Hawaii on a "pre-planned" trip. Alex apparently goes to Arizona to propose to ZP for a quickie marriage... changing his last name to that of his new wife, against all conventions and traditional norms (one has to wonder why. Surely it has nothing to do with trying to evade the law and justice, right?). And then we have Melani, who also travels down to Arizona to be with Ian's family for Thanksgiving and have a quickie wedding and adopt a new last name. Something happened that made everyone up and leave town at the drop of a hat. I'm betting there was a hurried family powow in regards to the missing kids and/or LE closing in on them about the attempted murder of BB. Whatever the case, the entire family is conveniently gone by the next day when the raid is performed.

As Melani is conveniently on her way down to Arizona LE from Rexburg texts her with disturbing news about a break-in to her home and that it's urgent that she call them. And of course she doesn't. According to her, "I didn’t know what to text back – I was kind of processing it." I believe that. I don't believe her excuse that she thought it was BB's doing, otherwise she would have called immediately as the law would have been on her side. If it were a break-in and it was as urgent as the officer made it sound (and she should have had no reason to believe otherwise, unless she were a guilty party to something more nefarious) then she should have reached out immediately to the police by calling them as instructed. What if the police were trying to find out if she or other family were ok or had been abducted? What if they needed her help to find a potential suspect? What if they needed other vital investigative information? In spite of the urgent and serious nature of the text she doesn't act how one would think. She doesn't act normal (and it is an act that she's putting on). Instead, she seems to fear/suspect the police and so she takes time to "process" the situation before replying some time later with a text that was designed to appear at once both innocent and dismissive. Her text comes across as passive aggressive - oh, you don't need to concern yourselves over me, I'm with those I love and so you should stop ruining my Thanksgiving holiday over some silly little break-in. She then goes on to rationalize rational lies her attitude and behavior for not treating the communication with LE more seriously by explaining that she just wasn't worried about property that may have been stolen. That's not the point! LE needed to talk to you over the phone about an important matter and you are acting completely out of character for an innocent victim! They needed information from you, and you knew it, but instead of helping them do their jobs you showed that you were more interested in protecting yourself by actively impeding their investigation.

The detective then replies back, again simply urging her to call them immediately. Which she never does. Instead she ignores the situation completely for several days. It isn't until some time after Thanksgiving, after she has gotten married, and has to go home and face reality again, that she finally gets in touch with LE about the situation. After she has had time to "process" the situation and come up with a defense. And then she again feigns innocence and ignorance - what's going on? Where's my stuff?

I'm sorry, but her words and actions don't speak to me of an innocent person with nothing to hide. Rather, they only make sense to me in light of someone involved in criminal mischief (whether of her own doing, or those she closely associates with and supports) and fear of subsequently getting caught. JMO.

 

[LDS social scientist]

To add to the rabbit hole, Ammon is also a name that is in The Book of Mormon as well.
It's possible that this is being used as some sort of code word, as someone else had previously mentioned.

No idea the significance behind it though. I wonder if this group has made up there own code to throw everyone off. Let's hope that isn't the case.

MOO

Anything is possible with this group, but ...

The original context of the Ammon reference (if I'm not mistaken, the screenshot of a purported text from MP to BB) makes it extremely likely that they were talking about the town of Ammon. I think in this case, the simplest explanation is probably the right one.

 

[Spartygirl]

A verified insider here said his hair and weight had not changed at Tammy's October funeral. He looked completely changed when found in Kauai in late January. Lori was, at one time, some sort of exercise teacher (I picture her as like the jazzercise leader, hahahaha), and she did hair, so I think both changes in Chad came directly from her.

Speaking of body changes, is MP Pregnant ???
I keep seeing innuendos that IP will be there when baby is born so I am wondering, what baby ??
And how did I miss this ??

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Speaking of body changes, is MP Pregnant ???
I keep seeing innuendos that IP will be there when baby is born so I am wondering, what baby ??
And how did I miss this ??

This is from Justin Lums Facebook (I think I can quote that right?)
Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
Also here’s the Twitter link
Twitter

 

[Onsdag]

You can have a 2nd ceremony to be sealed.

They also may think they're high and mighty enough to get in there and have a DIY sealing. Jmo

In regards to a second sealing, the woman would need to have their first sealing cancelled before they can be sealed again to another man. Not something that is done easily/lightly.

As for DIY sealings: Firstly it would be hard to get inside a temple and sealing room for an unsanctioned sealing as there are temple workers around every corner to help people and make sure no one gets lost or are where they're not supposed to be. Secondly, and more importantly, if someone were to sneak in and hold an unsanctioned sealing ceremony it would be unsanctioned and therefore never be on the records of the Church. It wouldn't be legitimate. The Church is very strict about keeping proper records and doing things by the book, and by the proper authority. Maybe they could convince themselves it was legitimate, but they would always know it wasn't and would never be able to prove to others that it was legitimate because a record of it wouldn't appear on the Church records. MOO.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Not sure what you’re asking. BYUI has 1 on campus housing complex for single students and 1 on campus housing complex for married students. There’s a large amount of off campus single student complexes and a large amount of off campus community housing complexes. Some of the people that own more than one of the Rock Creek townhouses often go to a third party to manage their townhouses to make things easier on them, but not everyone does that. I hope that answered the question.

Sorry SleuthD, my "Reply" is more of a jumping off point to continue the conversation and is not a question or comment on your previous post. I wasn't asking you or anyone else anything specifically.

Knowing nothing about the area I was struck that within a mile of Lori, per Google maps, I see Aspen Apartments, Rockwell Apartments, Stone Brook Apartments, Heartland Apartments, The Village Community Apartments, Paddington Place Apartments, Cougar Court Apartments, etc. Seems like a lot of temporary housing for rent in a small area. I assume this is mostly due to BYU. I could be way wrong.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I agree with your overall statement that that they all knew what was going on in each other's lives. She knows more than she's pretending to. However, I actually believe she has shown concern over LE's presence and actions, but she's desperately trying hard to pretend like it hasn't bothered her. And it is because of this that suggests to me that she is deeply involved and intertwined in this whole mess. Her words and actions betray a guilty conscience, despite protestations to the contrary. As an example, from the interview with Nate Eaton (BBM):

Eaton: When did you guys find out there was an investigation and JJ and Tylee were missing?

Melani: I’m foggy on this date but (Rexburg Police) Detective Hermosillo and another gentleman had come to my door while I was moving my stuff in so it had to have been early in November – I’d guess the second week in November.

I get a knock at the door, and I open it and see police, and I’m jumpy because what is my ex up to? What’s the next thing? Are my kids OK?

The detective said, “Do you know who lives next door?” And I said, “Yes, I think Alex’s name was on the lease, so sometimes my uncle’s over there, sometimes my aunt goes over there,” and I didn’t know what that was about. That was it. That was my first encounter with Rexburg Police.

Eaton: And that’s when they said the kids are missing?

Melani: No, no. This was early November. Then right before Thanksgiving, we’re driving down to Arizona to meet Ian’s family and have Thanksgiving, and I get a text from (Rexburg Police) Lt. Ball that says, “Somebody’s broken into your home. I need you to call me right away.”

I’m immediately like, “Oh great. My ex has sent somebody. I knew he had a private investigator following me, and I immediately thought he sent somebody to come break into my house. I didn’t know what to text back – I was kind of processing it.”

Then later, I texted back, “Well, I’m with people I love on Thanksgiving, and at least that’s what’s important.” If whatever the heck was taken – I had my emergency cash savings and I had a computer, an iPad, an old phone I didn’t use – I didn’t know what had been taken, but I was like, if my whole apartment is robbed, it’s OK. I got everything I need. It’s not about things.

Then he said, “I need you to call me,” and then I later found out it was the Rexburg Police. They had knocked down my door and taken a lot of my things. I kind of felt bothered about the text I got but I understand they’re just doing investigation.

As soon as I returned after Thanksgiving, I went right into Detective Hermosillo and was like, “What’s going on? I’m here to get my stuff.” He asked me about my previous marriage, what was I doing here, and he asked me about Lori and Alex. I was an open book and said, “Here’s what I know. Lori and Chad had left probably right around when I was going down to Arizona. They packed up and left, and I think it was a planned move. It wasn’t last minute because they had talked about moving to Hawaii at some point. They told Ian when they met, ‘You’ll have to come visit us in Hawaii sometime.'”

So here we have Melani admitting that she was nervous and "jumpy" when she first encountered Rexburg Police when they came knocking on her door. What would cause her to be nervous and jumpy around police? Well, the very next words out of her mouth indicate that it's because she feels it's in regards to her husband, Brandon Boudreaux. She couches her words to make it sound like it's because she thought Brandon was up to no good, or that her children were in danger, but I'm not buying it. We have the text exchange between BB and MP wherein she essentially tells BB that she was moving to Idaho and for him to keep the kids. He tried to get her to reconsider, saying that the children needed stability and their mother in their lives (this despite the attempt on his life, clearly he was concerned for the best interest of the children), but apparently she wasn't interested in that. He then applied for full custody and she never showed up to court to contest it. This tells me that she was trying to distance herself from him and the kids, for some reason. The only believable reason, to me at least, why she would be nervous and jumpy with the police knocking on her door, and why BB was the first thing on her mind, was because there had been an attempt made on his life just weeks earlier and in all likelihood she thought they were there in regards to that. And why would she be scared for that unless there was reason to believe she was somehow connected to or involved with that attempted murder?

Well, as it turned out the police weren't there for her directly, they were inquiring about her neighbor, and if she knew who lived there. She told them her uncle Alex lived there, and they left. One has to wonder if the police even knew Melani lived there and knew of her relationship with Alex when they knocked on her door that day, or if they were trying to covertly investigate Alex at that point. Anyways, Melani claims to have not known "what that was about," but I suspect she did. Why would the police be looking to find out who lived next door unless the person who lived there was a person of interest in some kind of crime or investigation? And it's obviously not in regards to the missing children, as Melani admits.

Surely she would have talked with Alex and the others about the police asking around about him, right? That probably would have made everyone a bit nervous and edgy.

Later that month there is a welfare check for the kids (initially just JJ, until later they discover Tylee is missing too) and everybody in this family scatters like roaches when a light switch is flipped on. Chad and Lori hurriedly fly to Hawaii on a "pre-planned" trip. Alex apparently goes to Arizona to propose to ZP for a quickie marriage... changing his last name to that of his new wife, against all conventions and traditional norms (one has to wonder why. Surely it has nothing to do with trying to evade the law and justice, right?). And then we have Melani, who also travels down to Arizona to be with Ian's family for Thanksgiving and have a quickie wedding and adopt a new last name. Something happened that made everyone up and leave town at the drop of a hat. I'm betting there was a hurried family powow in regards to the missing kids and/or LE closing in on them about the attempted murder of BB. Whatever the case, the entire family is conveniently gone by the next day when the raid is performed.

As Melani is conveniently on her way down to Arizona LE from Rexburg texts her with disturbing news about a break-in to her home and that it's urgent that she call them. And of course she doesn't. According to her, "I didn’t know what to text back – I was kind of processing it." I believe that. I don't believe her excuse that she thought it was BB's doing, otherwise she would have called immediately as the law would have been on her side. If it were a break-in and it was as urgent as the officer made it sound (and she should have had no reason to believe otherwise, unless she were a guilty party to something more nefarious) then she should have reached out immediately to the police by calling them as instructed. What if the police were trying to find out if she or other family were ok or had been abducted? What if they needed her help to find a potential suspect? What if they needed other vital investigative information? In spite of the urgent and serious nature of the text she doesn't act how one would think. She doesn't act normal (and it is an act that she's putting on). Instead, she seems to fear/suspect the police and so she takes time to "process" the situation before replying some time later with a text that was designed to appear at once both innocent and dismissive. Her text comes across as passive aggressive - oh, you don't need to concern yourselves over me, I'm with those I love and so you should stop ruining my Thanksgiving holiday over some silly little break-in. She then goes on to rationalize rational lies her attitude and behavior for not treating the communication with LE more seriously by explaining that she just wasn't worried about property that may have been stolen. That's not the point! LE needed to talk to you over the phone about an important matter and you are acting completely out of character for an innocent victim! They needed information from you, and you knew it, but instead of helping them do their jobs you showed that you were more interested in protecting yourself by actively impeding their investigation.

The detective then replies back, again simply urging her to call them immediately. Which she never does. Instead she ignores the situation completely for several days. It isn't until some time after Thanksgiving, after she has gotten married, and has to go home and face reality again, that she finally gets in touch with LE about the situation. After she has had time to "process" the situation and come up with a defense. And then she again feigns innocence and ignorance - what's going on? Where's my stuff?

I'm sorry, but her words and actions don't speak to me of an innocent person with nothing to hide. Rather, they only make sense to me in light of someone involved in criminal mischief (whether of her own doing, or those she closely associates with and supports) and fear of subsequently getting caught. JMO.

If police break down my door, take my things, there’s no way I’m going to call them back without a lawyer doing the talking. Innocent or guilty bc they have me in their sights and are getting ready to pick me off. No way. This one time, I’ll agree about her waiting to call back. If she had legal counsel in the mean time.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Sorry SleuthD, my "Reply" is more of a jumping off point to continue the conversation and is not a question or comment on your previous post. I wasn't asking you or anyone else anything specifically.

Knowing nothing about the area I was struck that within a mile of Lori, per Google maps, I see Aspen Apartments, Rockwell Apartments, Stone Brook Apartments, Heartland Apartments, The Village Community Apartments, Paddington Place Apartments, Cougar Court Apartments, etc. Seems like a lot of temporary housing for rent in a small area. I assume this is mostly due to BYU. I could be way wrong.

No problem! I definitely misunderstood. Yes lots of rentals all over. Imo for the amount of fancy living Lori was used to, I would have expected her to pick a fancier rental in this area. Jmo

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

No problem! I definitely misunderstood. Yes lots of rentals all over. Imo for the amount of fancy living Lori was used to, I would have expected her to pick a fancier rental in this area. Jmo

With all those rentals in Rexburg it is curious Lori and Melani ended up literally sharing a wall in a condo complex and were 500 feet from Ian.

Also curious Ian stayed in his apartment (did I read that here correctly?!) and did not move in with his new wife Melani 500 feet away after the wedding??

 

[Onsdag]

If police break down my door, take my things, there’s no way I’m going to call them back without a lawyer doing the talking. Innocent or guilty bc they have me in their sights and are getting ready to pick me off. No way. This one time, I’ll agree about her waiting to call back. If she had legal counsel in the mean time.

The thing is she didn't know at the time that it was the police who broke in and took her things. She didn't learn that until later (according to her). So, since she didn't know it was the police then she should have called to find out what was going on. That's my point. But I suspect she did actually believe it was the police and that's why she didn't call them because she wanted to avoid cooperating with them. IMO.

 

[Bree68]

Exactly my point. The only exception would be if it were a fully prepaid policy predating their marriage. That is possible. But if the policy earned any dividends that were reinvested during their marriage it would be subject to proration. Given Lori's current inability to effectively challenge probate I cannot understand why the insurance company paying Kay was not a horrible mistake.

Insurance companies make huge mistakes. When I formed a living trust years ago, one of the biggest insurance/investment companies in the US screwed up paperwork 3 times! And ended up paying my lawyer to fix it twice.

I have no idea if there was an error in this case or just a good faith effort to pay out quickly. But one would think that after being made aware of a beneficiary dispute in a community property state (by both parties) then learning Charles died by homicide committed by a party related to a possible beneficiary (it's still homicide even if justifiable self defense), the insurance company would have done their own deep investigation.

It is ironic how many people involved hold an insurance license. CV insurance license is still valid and others have licenses. I know that in most states there would have been an investigation especially after CV contacting the insurance company with the information that he gave them.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

With all those rentals in Rexburg it is curious Lori and Melani ended up literally sharing a wall in a condo complex and were 500 feet from Ian.

Also curious Ian stayed in his apartment (did I read that here correctly?!) and did not move in with his new wife Melani 500 feet away after the wedding??

Idk if I heard he stayed in his own apartment even after the marriage. That’s definitely curious. What would be the reasoning in staying apart after marriage? Was he marrying into this as a spy? Was it a marriage of convenience? What was he gaining from all of this?

 

[Anonymous91]

This is from Justin Lums Facebook (I think I can quote that right?)
Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
Also here’s the Twitter link
Twitter

Possibly a more believable reason for a quick marriage. If they had sex before marriage, to stay in good standing (with the church), they would have had to get married fast, to avoid suspicion.


MOO

 

[Anonymous91]

Anything is possible with this group, but ...

The original context of the Ammon reference (if I'm not mistaken, the screenshot of a purported text from MP to BB) makes it extremely likely that they were talking about the town of Ammon. I think in this case, the simplest explanation is probably the right one.

That is probably the most likely case.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

It seems according to this post at least one of them had met and was aware that LVD existed. It is not clear if they were aware of the affair. There is also a video with one of the sons talking about how CD told him that he met LVD on a business trip to Hawaii and it just so happened that she was also a widow.

So what is the truth from this? How well did that one sibling know Lori? Is it possible more people are involved than we’re aware? So what’s Chads kids feelings now that there appears to be an affair or suspicious behaviors at the least?

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Possibly a more believable reason for a quick marriage. If they had sex before marriage, to stay in good standing (with the church), they would have had to get married fast, to avoid suspicion.


MOO

That’s a good point to ponder. I know it was reported that MP is pregnant, but is it true? Could we be getting duped as a cover so we all take pity and sympathy on her? Imo pregnant women are looked at in reverence and given a great amount of trust. I would hate to find out she was pretending, that’d be horrible on all accounts

 

[Steelslady]

The Mormons I know are the nicest people. Too bad these weirdos are tainting the pool.

Absolutely. My aunt married a Bishop- they were the sweetest couple, very loving, caring and kind.

This group is a garbage representation of the Mormon faith. It's actually very insulting to them- just goes to prove, there are whack jobs in every religion- some I think use it to justify or hide their criminal behaviors, and I am thinking along these lines- they're using it to make it appear that they're good and honest people. I've seen this kind of behavior in all religions- hiding criminal behavior- how many times have we heard about suspects being "a good Christian, believed and loved God"- too many, in my opinion. They're a disgrace.

I have never seen Mormons act like this. I have never heard of any Mormon "hiding" their kids allegedly. The ones I've known for a good portion of my life are law abiding citizens and don't harm a soul. No, not all Mormons are perfect, like every other religion out there, but I haven't in my own life seen anyone of that faith that I personally know, act like this.

 

[Riverdoc]

@Riverdoc I would love to hear your thoughts about malachite
How Toxic is Malachite? - Johnna Crider

My gut is that common things are common. An insecticide from a big box discount store or farm supply is a lot easier to come by and explain than something exotic. Sure, the malachite might be more symbolic, but I believe they were interested in expediency and deceit, not poetry. Alex may well have poisoned himself at someone else’s instruction for the greater good of the ‘gatherers’.

 

[KonaHonu]

This is from Justin Lums Facebook (I think I can quote that right?)
Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
Also here’s the Twitter link
Twitter

Curious how LE could possibly CONFIRM she is pregnant with HIS child. Unless a DNA test was done only MP can confirm that as a fact! Let's face it, one reason for a quick wedding it to explain a pregnancy. Maybe MP was not the good girl she wants us all to believe, hooked up with someone other than IP, then had a serious problem to solve so she found IP and rushed things along so he would think the kid was his.

Just saying, it would be extremely irresponsible for any LEO on the planet to confirm the paternity of her child without a DNA test so I would question the professionalism of any LEO (and agency) who made such a statement.

ETA: typo