Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #35

[Deerrun]

Dbm

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Ah, timeline version 8 starts here ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE* NO DISCUSSION

honestly, i still don't know how to get to Version 8. I go to the first page of the current thread, and I still see no version 8???? Help if you can, thanks....

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

I keep thinking how can she possibly stay with this line anymore? Hiding them from who? Police, CPS, family members, the zombie apocalypse posse? Seriously, everyone is dead, arrested or under suspicion in their family except JJ's Grandparents. The only ones Lori doesn't want to have the children so she will make sure no one gets them ever. MOO

So will Lori get to take the stand at the preliminary hearing? Will we finally hear thieves long awaited reason? What’s the point of telling Melanie Gibb that JJ was going to Kays if you’re hiding him from her? Why hide Tylee from Kay when there’s no true connection? All jmo

 

[Diddian]

Underlined by me.
This is incorrect, Yom Teruah is on 1-2 Tishrei. In 2019 of the western calendar it fell on September 30.

I stand corrected. Thank you.

Now, I’ll be exploring how it is I got that wrong in my notes and won’t be able to let it go until I figure it out. Grrr.

 

[Trouble1321075]

So will Lori get to take the stand at the preliminary hearing? Will we finally hear thieves long awaited reason? What’s the point of telling Melanie Gibb that JJ was going to Kays if you’re hiding him from her? Why hide Tylee from Kay when there’s no true connection? All jmo

The problem with the defense was they are hiding them from kay is that lori is the childrens legal gaurdian. Kay could not take them from her without proving lori isnt fit to be a mother.
I hate to say it and i hold out hope that im wrong but i think those kids are dead. The police need to find the forensic evidence that indicates it and get on with charging both of them. They have her in jail so im thinking they feel like they have the leeway to tske their time and cober all the bases but in the meantime chad remains free, spending money that he probably should never of gotten and those poor grandparents are waiting for closure. The police need to wrap this up.
Its june now, has the damn snow melted enough to search the park yet?

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

The problem with the defense was they are hiding them from kay is that lori is the childrens legal gaurdian. Kay could not take them from her without proving lori isnt fit to be a mother.
I hate to say it and i hold out hope that im wrong but i think those kids are dead. The police need to find the forensic evidence that indicates it and get on with charging both of them. They have her in jail so im thinking they feel like they have the leeway to tske their time and cober all the bases but in the meantime chad remains free, spending money that he probably should never of gotten and those poor grandparents are waiting for closure. The police need to wrap this up.
Its june now, has the damn snow melted enough to search the park yet?

Whether that’s the card the defense plays or not, they still need to defend any allegations made. If it’s just their word or rather Loris words vs the prosecution, wouldn’t they need some proof to whatever Loris claiming is true? Would they really just take her at her word? That sounds like it’s opening her up to perjury should she decide to lie and be caught.

I haven’t personally been up to Yellowstone yet this year. But the parks opened so I’d say most of not all has melted.

All jmo

 

[Dontknow?]

@nhmemorymaker

From Gardners' great timeline. Is it an update not version? Each part is updated. Just guessing.

Detailed Case Timeline Part I (Update 8)

ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE* NO DISCUSSION

 

[Dontknow?]

dbm...

 

[wenwe4]

I have to wonder if MG is a mother. It disturbed me so to hear her describe Lori describing JJ as turning dark - who sees their children as a dark spirit? Something that can never be fixed or healed? That alone disturbs me to the core because she evidently never truly bonded with this child. Who would think of their child in this way vs. had a bad behavior, bad day, poor emotional regulation, needing more skills to deal with trauma & loss, etc. I am thinking of JJ through the lenses of just losing his Dad, multiple housing changes, school changes, new friends to make, nothing stable and no one to trust because they all disappear, die, or don't provide enough safety & structure to function with relative ease.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I think the issue here is Lori went from a 2.4L to a 5D in a matter of weeks. Jmo

 

[Tortoise]

honestly, i still don't know how to get to Version 8. I go to the first page of the current thread, and I still see no version 8???? Help if you can, thanks....

It's not in the first page of this thread. It's at the link I gave you in my post.

 

[MoM3tzger]

...The police need to wrap this up.
Its june now, has the damn snow melted enough to search the park yet?

I was at Yellowstone Sunday, May 31.

While I did see a few spots (maybe 10 or so) of very small patches of snow on the ground—there wasn’t enough per patch to gather for a 2’ snowman!

If requested, I can post photos when I get a better reception. I am still still road-tripping and have limited bandwidth, internet connection and time.

Although JMO, I can state with absolute certainty that the very small patches of snow on the ground is NOT preventing a search in Yellowstone.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Chad was connected to ZulemaP and JasonM who are in AZ at that time, I think.

He said he was helping someone with a remodel. Was Chad handy?

What was Melani up to at that time? My guess she was getting ready to move to ID, and maybe needed help... fixing house problems, or setting up surveillance system to track Brandon for future activity.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

@nhmemorymaker

From Gardners' great timeline. Is it an update not version? Each part is updated. Just guessing.

Detailed Case Timeline Part I (Update 8)

ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE* NO DISCUSSION

Thanks....so i have copied this link, so have it stored now... BUT if i do not have the link stored.... how do I find it when I just go to Websleuths... where is it actually found.

 

[nyvictoria]

honestly, i still don't know how to get to Version 8. I go to the first page of the current thread, and I still see no version 8???? Help if you can, thanks....

This should take you directly to the post in the media/timeline thread

ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE* NO DISCUSSION

 

[nhmemorymaker]

This should take you directly to the post in the media/timeline thread

ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE* NO DISCUSSION

i know....but how do you get to it in the first place.

 

[AliKaye]

I don't think so. The curriculum appears to be mainstream LDS.

I am mainstream LDS and this is not mainstream doctrine. These people are conniving, using truth and adding in their own twist. It's how they have led astray good people.

 

[nyvictoria]

I have to wonder if MG is a mother. It disturbed me so to hear her describe Lori describing JJ as turning dark - who sees their children as a dark spirit? Something that can never be fixed or healed? That alone disturbs me to the core because she evidently never truly bonded with this child. Who would think of their child in this way vs. had a bad behavior, bad day, poor emotional regulation, needing more skills to deal with trauma & loss, etc. I am thinking of JJ through the lenses of just losing his Dad, multiple housing changes, school changes, new friends to make, nothing stable and no one to trust because they all disappear, die, or don't provide enough safety & structure to function with relative ease.

all JMO
I don’t know what to think about MG. I watched her interview with a fair amount of skepticism. If Chad and Lori hadn’t put her in a situation where she had to lie to LE, I think she would still be happily going along with them, eager and grateful to play a part in their delusions.

I doubt Lori was ever a great mother. More than likely, CV and JR contributed a lot to the child care. Uncle Alex and cousin Melani were around often and possibly helped out as well. I agree Lori did not bond with JJ and because he was not her biological child, it was easier for her to allow Chad to hang the label “dark” on him. She no longer wanted the responsibility of caring for JJ but was too spiteful to give him to his Grandparents. Tylee had to disappear because she never would have stood by silently if JJ was suddenly gone. I doubt either of the kids were very happy with all the inconsistencies in their lives.

The only certainty I have in this case is that the sane people around Lori and Chad are either dead or in fear for their lives.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Lori's Defense Response filed 6/1/2020.

 

[nyvictoria]

i know....but how do you get to it in the first place.

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