Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #43

[janx]

Oh, yeah. Oprah is very much disliked and considered a minion of the devil in several groups like AVOW. You can find quite a few evangelicals who think she is too.

So they live in the pop culture world?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

April Raymond shares quote by Tylee. “Mom, you look like a drug dealer with all your phones”.

MG had a moment of doubt about the zombies and went to Alex. Alex says he 100% believed.

LVD to MG “If Chad is a satan is a good one”.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

She is also in for a very rough trip, the trial is ages away, and it will be huge in the news. Her life will be looked at and scrutinized, all the family secrets will come out, it's going to be something else. Anyway, what a horrible family to grow up in, and I think she has some growing up yet to come. MOO

Hadn't thought about that, but you are right. If it is a death penalty case, the mitigation specialist will ensure that all the family dark and embarrassing secrets are out in the open for all to see for both Chad and Lori's family.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

In regards to the reconciliation of CV and LVD.

MG to LVD- “why are you going to Texas, you are trying to run from him?”

Lori to MG. “I was told by the lord I need to get his finances in order. “


——-/

now we know.... she manipulated CV to reconcile, pretending to get finances in order then 3 weeks later he is dead!

 

[KonaHonu]

I did some research on the correlation of second generation antipsychotics (SGAs) and PE. Some very interesting reading. I’m not a doctor so I would be curious what a doctor of psychiatry would say...

Is there anyone you know with this training? I’d love to pick their brain.

I'm not in the camp that any drugs were used to induce PE. I think a drug may have been used to tranquilize the kids though.

But I wanted to offer this to those who are looking into that theory: one of our podcasters is a district manager for a pharmaceutical distributor. If anyone had access to a wide range of drugs (for physician samples of course) it would be him. I don't recall which one though.

 

[BeachSky]

April Raymond shares quote by Tylee. “Mom, you look like a drug dealer with all your phones”.

MG had a moment of doubt about the zombies and went to Alex. Alex says he 100% believed.

LVD to MG “If Chad is a satan is a good one”.

This poor child. The insanity exposure she went through before she died

 

[Boxer]

MG says ...Lori said Oprah was the darkest spirit on earth

Well, there you go.

The reality is they don't have the moral capacity or character to judge. Scared rabbits afraid of doing what's right.

 

[Michael0808]

Hi guys! I hope all is well with everyone. I’m watching the Dateline show too, but because everyone on here is so informed, it’s really not too much new info. It’s all here in the threads lol! Still enjoying it.

I have 2 questions if anyone knows or has thoughts: Did LD have an actual job or career ever? And do you think TD knew about the affair?
LD said she moved for a job, which wasn’t true, seemed to be just to be near CD. And they publicly displayed themselves in a small town.
Sorry for the long post. Adding a MOO because I still like it lol

 

[BeachSky]

Did MG just say...Lori told her JJ was a zombie and was trying to keep her and Chad apart?

OMG!
MOO

 

[Considering]

Did I understand MG to say that Tammy confronted Chad about infidelity according to Lori’s dad??

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I’m sorry, but if MG was questioning the whole zombie thing, she certainly didn’t put two things together for A LONG TIME!

MG actually thought that if he was a zombie there would be just a prayer his spirit would leave and he would just die


2. Anyone else think
she stumbled in talking about needing money to complete their spiritual dreams? How’d she know the following and not put two and two together?

She said, “I thought it was all spiritual, right, but if they wanted to do their spiritual dreams they would need some money to do that. She knew that there was $1 million that he had on him.
(Referencing Lori)

 

[MoM3tzger]

There is something off with this Melanie G lady.

Could it be smiling whilst describing horrid details?

MOO

It almost feels like she’s pretending to believe what she’s saying... I can’t really put a finger on it, but she just doesn’t seem sincere. MOO

That smile could be because she interfered with the investigation post-welfare check on the children in November 2019. I think the smile is her joy for the immunity...JMO. She’s culpable. Turned state witness for immunity. She was admittedly Lori’s best friend, new what was going on, was swept away by being in on the secrets as one of the chosen 144,000, police started closing in on her...she had to either go down with them or fess up and turn on them. I have no way to prove it yet but the facts speak for themselves. That’s where the smile comes from...she will make it out of this with no charges but must be a witness for the state against LV and CD.

She is and always be guilty of “stand for nothing and you will fall for anything.” IMO, that’s the inconsistency that pours from her mouth. She’s just covering her own culpability to this sad, preventable story about several innocent dead people. Again, MOO.

 

[longtimereader]

I was going to go back and listen, but couldn't make myself do it. She flip-flopped on that one for sure.

Quite frankly, she should just zip it and stay off social media altogether. After the interviews she and her mother gave, anything said now is disingenuous. She's not a politician or a public figure, putting out a public statement is not necessary. MOO -

Yes. Poor decision. She should have been helping find them. At minimum, not suggested that KW was evil and just kept silent. She looks bad and she knows it. Her mom potentially lied about talking to JJ on national tv. She probably

All couched in Jesus name. Where was He when doing the other interviews? I deeply resent the way she used "religion" to make herself look better to the public

And therefore untouchable. Spiritual abuse. Jmo

 

[KonaHonu]

I don’t disagree with any of your analysis. The crucial point I think we’re both making is that LE is in no danger of having Lori “set free” before prosecutors are ready to file new charges. They might file them next month, or they might wait for more evidence, but Lori is not going free IMO.

I think what is going on is that they are sorting through the digital evidence they got from Google. Almost everything they got that led them to the dig site came from Alex's or Tammy's phone. They have likely had those since early December and it has taken 6 months to get any real action. Once they the text about the pet cemetery on June 1 things moved very quickly.

They did not subpoena Lori's phone and Google records until March and are likely just starting on Chad's.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I’d be embarrassed to be this xxxxx I’m not sure of the right word to use.

MG- huh I wonder how she got her into BYU?

but still not putting anything together.

editing a mean word.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Did I understand MG to say that Tammy confronted Chad about infidelity according to Lori’s dad??

Not sure about confronting, but suspicious.

chad pocketed 440 k in life insurance.

 

[Drc40]

I don’t take back anything I’ve said about this MG kook.

 

[Spartygirl]

I snipped and bolded.
JMOO Alex & Lori were using their guests as witnesses. They wanted JJ seen that night but they were on a tight timeline because JJ needed to be dead and hidden so Alex could drive the body to Chad’s in the morning, where he was waiting to bury the body after Tammy left for work. Alex took JJ and began the process by sedating JJ or poisoning him. Then he brought JJ or his body back to show the guests. After everyone was in bed, either Lori checked to make sure JJ was dead, or she finished the killing by herself or with Alex, and then Alex took the body. They thought they were being very clever and no one would suspect this was the night/early morning that JJ died.

I have thought this also, but MG and DW were spending the night there so JJ's death either was very quiet in LVD apartment or AxC took him and killed him there.

 

[squareandrabbet]

In regards to the reconciliation of CV and LVD.

MG to LVD- “why are you going to Texas, you are trying to run from him?”

Lori to MG. “I was told by the lord I need to get his finances in order. “


——-/

now we know.... she manipulated CV to reconcile, pretending to get finances in order then 3 weeks later he is dead!

lol, nice euphemism for ‘steal all his money’.

ahahahahaha.

 

[Sorelle19]

Two important points from Dateline tonight:

1) Tammy WAS suspicious. Melanie G said Lori confided this to her.
2) Several nights before MG went to police, she reached out to Alex and asked, "Do I want to know what happened to JJ?" His answer?

"You don't want to know."