Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #10

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Thank KH. I looked at flights from HLN to SLC and could only find two. O830 and 21.45 (terminal 2). Do they also fly from another terminal?
Most of the major airlines have a late evening flight that leaves between 8-11:30 pm. They could easily catch one of those direct from LIH and connect in LAX, DEN or PHX to get to SLC, all major airline hubs. Lots of options for them but I doubt they'll use any of them. They are't going anywhere. MOO
 
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Deleted-Duplicate post. Sorry!
 
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For the life of me, I can NOT wrap my head around this case!!

IF (a big ole IF), Lori shows with the kids, then what could have possibly have been the point in all this?!?! I mean, the newlyweds could have just gone on about their business and no one would have a clue about any of this!

If the kids are alive and well, then what are they running for? Has to be something. IMO- the deaths of their spouses has to be it!
 
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No L&C sightings today? I would sure love a tip off on where they currently are and what they are doing and which hotel? The Marriot/Kauai webcam is currently down.
 
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January 29,2020
Justin Lum Fox 10 on Twitter
Per Chandler PD — by statute the case fits 2nd-degree murder but since it's ruled as self-defense that is a justification. At this time, it's a homicide. #fox10phoenix
 
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East Idaho News FB post about an updated timeline (now includes recent events in Hawaii):

East Idaho News.com
 
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"Neighbors are telling me the lights were on at Lori and Chad’s townhome last night. No idea if Lori will be coming to Rexburg tomorrow with JJ and Tylee - but JJ’s grandparents, the Woodcocks, are arriving in eastern Idaho tonight. They say they’re praying they will finally get to see the kids."

Nate Eaton - Reporter


 
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January 29,2020
Kim Powell on Twitter
I’m at the #IdahoFalls Airport waiting for family members of the missing kids to show up. Their mom, Lori Vallow, has until tomorrow to bring them to authorities to prove they’re okay. #azfamily




MMO Oh look! Idaho Falls Airport..Reporter from Arizona
@azfamily
 
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"Neighbors are telling me the lights were on at Lori and Chad’s townhome last night. No idea if Lori will be coming to Rexburg tomorrow with JJ and Tylee - but JJ’s grandparents, the Woodcocks, are arriving in eastern Idaho tonight. They say they’re praying they will finally get to see the kids."

Nate Eaton - Reporter



The neighbors even provided pictures. Ha ha. That's my kind of people!
 
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Lori was married to Charles Vallow.
Charles' sister, Kay, has a son.
Kay's son is the biological father of JJ (bio parents are not named in MSM so we can't name them here).
JJ's biological parents had some issues and were unable to care for him when he was born.
JJ's grandparents Kay and Larry took care of him for the first 9 months of his life.
Then Kay's brother Charles (and his wife Lori) legally adopted JJ while he was still a baby.
That makes Charles biologically JJ's great uncle, but legally JJ's father.
Charles is now deceased (shot to death by Lori's brother Alex).

ETA: JJ's bio-parents are alive but only Lori has legal parental rights to JJ currently. JJ's Bio-parents either gave up or lost their parental rights when JJ was adopted. MOO.

I'm seeing clearly now....lol


Lots of caffeine and flowcharts needed!!!! JJs grandmother felt she was too old to raise him. So her brother, Charles and Lori adopted him. Charles is now dead.

Friday Fan,

Now I think I have it!

Thank you both!
 
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I mean I could go lurk at the airport too... if anyone had a vehicle description, knew if they drove to slc or how they got there it’d be super helpful! I just have a couple super simple questions for them :)
 
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January 29,2020
Justin Lum Fox 10 on Twitter
Per Chandler PD — by statute the case fits 2nd-degree murder but since it's ruled as self-defense that is a justification. At this time, it's a homicide. #fox10phoenix

Someone in the comments asked about Alex's autopsy results and Justin replied that the report will be out around March 12th.
 
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January 29,2020
Justin Lum Fox 10 on Twitter
Per Chandler PD — by statute the case fits 2nd-degree murder but since it's ruled as self-defense that is a justification. At this time, it's a homicide. #fox10phoenix
His wording isn't very clear...Is he saying it's a justifiable homicide?
Is he also implying, "case closed"?
 
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January 29,2020
Kim Powell on Twitter
I’m at the #IdahoFalls Airport waiting for family members of the missing kids to show up. Their mom, Lori Vallow, has until tomorrow to bring them to authorities to prove they’re okay. #azfamily




MMO Oh look! Idaho Falls Airport..Reporter from Arizona
@azfamily
I feel for those poor people. Worried sick over their grandkids and freezing their tails off while throngs of camera’s and microphones welcome them. I hope they get to have a quality sit down w/LE while they’re there if the kids don’t turn up tomorrow.
 
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January 29,2020
Justin Lum Fox 10 on Twitter
Per Chandler PD — by statute the case fits 2nd-degree murder but since it's ruled as self-defense that is a justification. At this time, it's a homicide. #fox10phoenix

Looks like Justin's tweet was cut short by the twitter character rules.

Here is what he says on Facebook:

“So by statute it fits 2nd degree murder but since it's a self-defense that is a justification. As a result, it's a homicide not a murder.”
 
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His wording isn't very clear...Is he saying it's a justifiable homicide?
Is he also implying, "case closed"?
That was my interpretation. Doesn’t look like they are rethinking the original self-defense conclusion. I’m not clear on what “open” means if they’ve decided it’s self-defense. They said again today the only reason the case is still open is because the kids are missing. I don’t get it, but I’ve been unimpressed and puzzled w/the way they’ve handled the investigation from day one.
 
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Someone in the comments asked about Alex's autopsy results and Justin replied that the report will be out around March 12th.

That is interesting. I wonder why it is so long...toxicology results? We have no idea how he died, major silence on that.
 
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