Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #13

[IronOrchid]

I’m just north of Seattle... *ahem*. ... Shall we all go stake out the airport? J/k

I’m excited that Dateline will be addressing this and I’m really envious of Nate re: Keith!

Oh, I'm from Seattle too! In the Midwest now though.

 

[IronOrchid]

I wonder “who” in the family didn’t want an autopsy?

from the link:
No matter the family’s wishes, Bertram indicated that it’s unusual for a coroner not to do an autopsy if someone fairly young with no major medical issues passes away suddenly, like Tammy did in October.

It also matters who in the fam asks for an autopsy, and why.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

TAMMY DAYBELL: Here is a crucial part of... - Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix | Facebook

TAMMY DAYBELL: Here is a crucial part of the call between a Gilbert PD detective and Fremont County, ID dispatcher. The detective has questions about Tammy Daybell who died on 10/19/19. Initially, ruled natural but now suspicious. The dispatcher says the Daybells did not want an autopsy done on Tammy.

Call obtained by our sister station Fox 13.

 

[IronOrchid]

TAMMY DAYBELL: Here is a crucial part of... - Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix | Facebook

TAMMY DAYBELL: Here is a crucial part of the call between a Gilbert PD detective and Fremont County, ID dispatcher. The detective has questions about Tammy Daybell who died on 10/19/19. Initially, ruled natural but now suspicious. The dispatcher says the Daybells did not want an autopsy done on Tammy.

Call obtained by our sister station Fox 13.

Autopsy requests are weird. Tammy's kids should have gang pressed the authorities for one right away.

 

[WhereIsWaldo]

I got a feeling that someone took Lori's crazy ideas, a few facts and filled in the gaps with fiction. Not even convinced that a letter existed. If it did, why would they publish it without verifying it wasn't a hoax?

I am not familiar with the source, maybe others here, more so. The source is not part of MSM, as we know it, with typical media credentials yet I am unwilling to discount the video until I have reason to believe it contains information that has extreme bias for or against the POI in this case. FWIW, I found the link over at LDS Freedom Forum.

 

[IronOrchid]

I am not familiar with the source, maybe others here, more so. The source is not part of MSM, as we know it, with typical media credentials yet I am unwilling to discount the video until I have reason to believe it contains information that has extreme bias for or against the POI in this case. FWIW, I found the link over at LDS Freedom Forum.

Cryptic.

 

[WhereIsWaldo]

I’m just north of Seattle... *ahem*. ... Shall we all go stake out the airport? J/k

I’m excited that Dateline will be addressing this and I’m really envious of Nate re: Keith!

Your state with extended family connections is possibly relevant regarding MB so definitely keep following.

 

[WhereIsWaldo]

Cryptic.

Not intentionally but the link I provided earlier I believe is relevant .

 

[squareandrabbet]

I was spotting things that I was saying were ... questionable is a term I can get away with using, within the first minute.

Edit: I was also laughing at the way she was pronouncing the Book of Mormon names which she obviously had someone tell her in writing and not speaking because she massacres them. Nephi was "Neffie" for example.

Thinking about the Nephilim, I suspect

 

[BreeCherie]

Does anyone know what this specific sect of lds thinks about autism? I'm wondering if someone else convinced LV that giving up the dog and support system is the way to go.

 

[tealrose]

Hey, can we attempt to gather together a list of the connected vehicles and where those vehicles were/are/ended up? I think it was sort of started, but never really compiled. I'm really curious if all the relevant vehicles are accounted for...

 

[tealrose]

And THANK YOU for bringing up "where was the dog?"
Add to that, where are the dog toys? Food and water bowl?
I've meant to ask that at least two or three times now.

And along with that question, went this:
So, Charles was killed in July. JJ was attending "school" at the time, which from what I can tell from the school's website, was something a bit like a summer camp program that they run during June and July. I can't find a summer calendar or one for last school year, but the 2019-20 calendar is on the school's site.

July 11th (Th), Charles's death
Aug 5th (M), School starts at L.I.F.E. in Arizona
Aug 9th (F), classified about the dog
Aug 10th (Sa), last Facetime conversation with grandparents
Aug 21 (W), School starts in Rexburg
Aug 30 (F), JJ's last day in class at L.I.F.E. in Arizona
Aug 31-Sept 2 (Sa-M), Labor Day weekend
Sept 5 (Th), Lori's email to JJ's school (L.I.F.E), "JJ won't be returning this year"
Sept 23 (M), JJ's last day in school in Rexburg
Sept 24 (Tu), Lori withdraws JJ from school in Rexburg

OK, I thought the timing was weird, but seeing at all written out, it's really, really weird.
So JJ spent 3-4 weeks at L.I.F.E., then they went to Idaho over Labor day weekend, and he spent three weeks there? 15 days, max?

And this is a kid that's autistic, and has had pretty much every single stable thing in his life upended... and he's SEVEN. (I'm gonna say, given at that point, the autistic is pretty much irrelevant - seven and extreme disruption are enough.) He's not gonna be settling into a new school well, even if he's high functioning.

Uh oh. I just thought of something else. I wonder if they've checked into what other Rx's might have been available to the family. Usually it's smaller children that end up od'd when they're being drugged into submission... but now that I've thought about it, it's a challenge to get the possibility out of my head.

 

[tresir2012]

Arches Academy
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Very interesting. Good find. Is it a boarding school?

 

[mickey2942]

Autopsy requests are weird. Tammy's kids should have gang pressed the authorities for one right away.

That is interesting. If my Mom had died in her sleep, after being seemingly healthy, I would have definitely wanted to know why, if for no other reason than to know exactly what had happened, as it could be something hereditary.

I have no doubt that Chad dissuaded them.

 

[IronOrchid]

And THANK YOU for bringing up "where was the dog?"
Add to that, where are the dog toys? Food and water bowl?
I've meant to ask that at least two or three times now.

And along with that question, went this:
So, Charles was killed in July. JJ was attending "school" at the time, which from what I can tell from the school's website, was something a bit like a summer camp program that they run during June and July. I can't find a summer calendar or one for last school year, but the 2019-20 calendar is on the school's site.

July 11th (Th), Charles's death
Aug 5th (M), School starts at L.I.F.E. in Arizona
Aug 9th (F), classified about the dog
Aug 10th (Sa), last Facetime conversation with grandparents
Aug 21 (W), School starts in Rexburg
Aug 30 (F), JJ's last day in class at L.I.F.E. in Arizona
Aug 31-Sept 2 (Sa-M), Labor Day weekend
Sept 5 (Th), Lori's email to JJ's school (L.I.F.E), "JJ won't be returning this year"
Sept 23 (M), JJ's last day in school in Rexburg
Sept 24 (Tu), Lori withdraws JJ from school in Rexburg

OK, I thought the timing was weird, but seeing at all written out, it's really, really weird.
So JJ spent 3-4 weeks at L.I.F.E., then they went to Idaho over Labor day weekend, and he spent three weeks there? 15 days, max?

And this is a kid that's autistic, and has had pretty much every single stable thing in his life upended... and he's SEVEN. (I'm gonna say, given at that point, the autistic is pretty much irrelevant - seven and extreme disruption are enough.) He's not gonna be settling into a new school well, even if he's high functioning.

Uh oh. I just thought of something else. I wonder if they've checked into what other Rx's might have been available to the family. Usually it's smaller children that end up od'd when they're being drugged into submission... but now that I've thought about it, it's a challenge to get the possibility out of my head.

It's scary how little control we actually have over our lives, especially when we are young.

 

[jjenny]

Read the police officer’s report and see if you still think so.

Exactly. There was no reason that cop gave for wanting to clean up blood, other than he decided to do so before Alex came back. Which is bizarre. Chandler police should be asked why their cop was cleaning up blood at the scene he should have been investigating.

 

[jjenny]

That is interesting. If my Mom had died in her sleep, after being seemingly healthy, I would have definitely wanted to know why, if for no other reason than to know exactly what had happened, as it could be something hereditary.

I have no doubt that Chad dissuaded them.

Chad was Tammy's next of kin so presumably he would be one deciding on whether to do an autopsy or not. But his children apparently support whatever he does, so I doubt that they would argue with him anyway.

 

[jjenny]

Why would the dog be allowed to live?
Everyone else was disposable.

Dog doesn't talk.

 

[IronOrchid]

Your state with extended family connections is possibly relevant regarding MB so definitely keep following.

Seattle area is wild. It's like a big giant... depression that's also cool and good.

 

[jjenny]

Could she have been referring to MB as her daughter seeing as they had such a close relationship? MOO

Who in the world knows. But I am pretty sure that MB didn't move to Idaho to go to school before Lori did. Basically, it would appear Lori would tell different things to different people. She was reportedly telling people she was moving because she herself got a job. To her neighbor in Rexburg she reportedly said she moved there to attend school. And never mind all the stories she told about how Charles died.
To her own son Colby she reportedly told Charles died of a heart attack (per Colby himself). To JJ's school she reportedly said Charles killed himself. To Charles' children were who asking what happened, she told they had to wait for medical examiner.
She should just pick one story and stick to it.