Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #14

[tresir2012]

Awhile back I read Lori sent wedding pics to MB. Maybe they came from that exchange. I am thinking either MB is cooperating or they had a warrant for her phone imo not sure if this was discussed

Oh good thought. Very likely IMO.

 

[kye0001]

ohhhh...how I relate to that very gut feeling!!!! Why we can't get away from this stuff!!!!

I don’t think I’ll even feel better when she’s in cuffs, even if her mug shot shows messy her and puffy eyes. I don’t think I’ll be able to let this go until the kids are found. I hate stuff where people hurt kids at the best of times but this pair have taken it to extremes. MOO

 

[155etta]

The show airs tomorrow. Here's a preview.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=528334427787743

 

[kye0001]

The show airs tomorrow. Here's a preview.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=528334427787743

Please can someone record it for us in other countries? I’m subscribed to them on YouTube but don’t get the full thing. I really don’t want to miss any of it.

 

[holsen]

JMO but shame on the photographer for doing that. These photos are enough to hurt/shock/wake up some of the people involved in this case that have been withholding information. There’s two missing kids at stake. To revoke permission and hold out for the highest bidder stinks IMO

I agree with you 100%.

 

[tresir2012]

So am I seriously losing it? Is this new info, or did we know CD was with LV in August?

"In August, Vallow, her children, and Cox moved to Rexburg, Idaho, where Daybell joined them at the end of the month. Then, in December, Cox died of what the Times refers to as “unknown causes.”

There was a mysterious death on Daybell’s side of the family as well. On October 19, Daybell’s wife, Tammy Daybell, died of natural causes, according to her obituary. Approximately two weeks after her death, Daybell and Vallow were married."

Everything We Know About the Deeply Suspicious ‘Doomsday Couple’

I think that should be MB joined them at the end of the month, not "Daybell" IMO.

 

[SeattleStew]

If she intends for the kids to not be found, keeping the cell makes sense. She doesn't want them to be tracked to the compound where they are living now. Doubtful she allowed anything electronic/trackable accompany them.

What compound, please? I missed that. TIA.

 

[tresir2012]

Wonder if he's splitting that 3 ways.

Hmmm. That's a thought. Possibly.

 

[tresir2012]

Shortly after 8 am Monday morning.

I swear you're 5 hours ahead of me (1 pm here) and no clue why I think that.

Yes and Pacific coast time is 9 hours behind me I think so if Hawaii is Pacific time then it is 9.30 a.m. there now.

 

[BigAl16]

What compound, please? I missed that. TIA.

Nothing we know, but the theory that has been floated from time to time is that *if* the kids are alive they're staying somewhere, possibly rural or off the grid with prepper/end of times friends of CD or LV. But really the key is that if the kids are alive that Tylee can't have her phone with her or she could be tracked and presumably LV doesn't want that.

 

[BigAl16]

Yes and Pacific coast time is 9 hours behind me I think so if Hawaii is Pacific time then it is 9.30 a.m. there now.

No, it is 8:30.

Edit: Google "What time in Hawaii" and you'll see.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Nothing we know, but the theory that has been floated from time to time is that *if* the kids are alive they're staying somewhere, possibly rural or off the grid with prepper/end of times friends of CD or LV. But really the key is that if the kids are alive that Tylee can't have her phone with her or she could be tracked and presumably LV doesn't want that.

People buy and sell phones all the time. They could have a dozen and many are just decoys or throw aways.. If she had one registered to Tylee on her a month ago and we are only hearing about it now, it seems to amount to nothing except to keep the tidbits alive in the msm...imo. As stated before... much of what we will hear and what msm will do will be to make money.....

 

[Jethro4WS]

Yes and Pacific coast time is 9 hours behind me I think so if Hawaii is Pacific time then it is 9.30 a.m. there now.

Hawaii is earlier than Pacific Time by 2 hours during Standard Time and 3 hours during Daylight Time. It is 8:40 AM there, right now.

The easiest way to find out any time difference is to simply Google "what time is it in " and then whatever state or city and Google will show you what the current time is there. Compare to your own clock and voila.

 

[Gardener1850]

Request for clarification: I guess I assumed if the name appeared in msm (a posted obituary) it CAN be mentioned? Could you interpret with some detail for me? Thanks in advance.

Keep in mind I'm not a mod here, but I believe we're supposed to avoid posting full names of people who are not POI's/not missing as much as possible, especially when they have not been speaking to the press in the case and not been discussed in news articles relevant to this case. For example, Lori's parents have never been named in MSM. Their names may be found in obituaries or other online documents or possibly even in very old news articles unrelated to the current missing children case. That doesn't mean we can post Lori's parents' names here just because we can find their names from a legit MSM source. That would be sleuthing family members. We are not allowed to sleuth family members openly here. We are only allowed to sleuth the POIs/Suspects/Missing. And I also believe we are supposed to use initials as much as possible for the main case players that are discussed in the media and are not POIs/not the missing children. That said, I prefer to err on the side of caution when it come to the rules here. I also try to think about how I would feel if my BIL was shot to death by his estranged wife's brother and then my nephew and his sister/daughter of the estranged wife subsequently disappeared-- how would I feel about having my name and personal details posted on a crime message board with insinuations that I know something or have something to do with it all? I'm not perfect, but I try very hard to treat others as I would want to be treated. As always, MOO (My Opinion Only).

 

[Sltpeppa]

There are still wedding pictures available to see. I don't know if I am allowed to point the direction.

 

[kye0001]

People buy and sell phones all the time. They could have a dozen and many are just decoys or throw aways.. If she had one registered to Tylee on her a month ago and we are only hearing about it now, it seems to amount to nothing except to keep the tidbits alive in the msm...imo. As stated before... much of what we will hear and what msm will do will be to make money.....

I think they’re being very careful with what they are releasing. I think they’re doing it to keep up media interest but also to let those involved that they’re closing in on them. JMO

 

[Mitch1]

For those that think the kids are in hiding, my question is: what reason is there for Lori to have them in hiding? She said she didn’t want JJ, Tylee is like 17 and there was no custody battle. Seems like an awful lot of trouble for nothing

 

[LAborn]

They can try to question her, but she'd just refuse to talk. Unless the police have evidence that the children are no longer alive or cirumstances dictate it, it can't be presumed that they are dead.

How many months since they were last seen alive? Of course they are deceased. The police can't be that stupid.

 

[IronOrchid]

How many months since they were last seen alive? Of course they are deceased. The police can't be that stupid.

It been since like September

 

[kye0001]

For those that think the kids are in hiding, my question is: what reason is there for Lori to have them in hiding? She said she didn’t want JJ, Tylee is like 17 and there was no custody battle. Seems like an awful lot of trouble for nothing

I think as time has gone on it’s becoming less likely. It had to do with her reluctance to allow contact with the family members she doesn’t like. It was also thrown about that she’s hiding them for when the SHTF (in her mind). We really don’t know because it’s impossible to know what’s going on in her head. Hopefully that is the case and the kids are safe and alive. It’s looking less likely though. MOO