Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #14

[nhmemorymaker]

When I first met him 18 years ago, he had already written a few of his fictional books. He and Tammy were still working for another book publisher, and he was helping that publisher to land authors that I respected. He seemed humble, low key, and caring. Over the years, as he started his own company, and tried to attract new authors, he found a niche in other folks who had similar beliefs in the end of days circumstances that his fiction mirrored. And his fiction was created around other people’s visions, as well. As his focus turned completely to that, including his seeking out like minded visionaries, and helping them write books that fit in with his fiction, I believe he got caught up in the attention, and notoriety he began to receive. He was angry and humiliated when his books were pulled from LDS bookstores. After he moved to Idaho, I believe he went deeper into delusion, and got caught up in the traveling conference group, that came out of his AVOW group. I think he really believed in the end of days stuff that he read and wrote about. But I think years of predictions not coming true, and a falling out of some of his authors from good standing in the LDS community eventually had some impact on him. I wonder if he realizes that what he once believed is false, or if he even cares about it any more. I suspect that this former high school football state champion finally has the pretty cheerleader that he always wished for, and if he and Lori have some way of living the high life, it seems he is happy to leave everything else behind. It makes me truly sad for his children, Tammy’s family, and all of the other victims left behind their wake.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

When I first met him 18 years ago, he had already written a few of his fictional books. He and Tammy were still working for another book publisher, and he was helping that publisher to land authors that I respected. He seemed humble, low key, and caring. Over the years, as he started his own company, and tried to attract new authors, he found a niche in other folks who had similar beliefs in the end of days circumstances that his fiction mirrored. And his fiction was created around other people’s visions, as well. As his focus turned completely to that, including his seeking out like minded visionaries, and helping them write books that fit in with his fiction, I believe he got caught up in the attention, and notoriety he began to receive. He was angry and humiliated when his books were pulled from LDS bookstores. After he moved to Idaho, I believe he went deeper into delusion, and got caught up in the traveling conference group, that came out of his AVOW group. I think he really believed in the end of days stuff that he read and wrote about. But I think years of predictions not coming true, and a falling out of some of his authors from good standing in the LDS community eventually had some impact on him. I wonder if he realizes that what he once believed is false, or if he even cares about it any more. I suspect that this former high school football state champion finally has the pretty cheerleader that he always wished for, and if he and Lori have some way of living the high life, it seems he is happy to leave everything else behind. It makes me truly sad for his children, Tammy’s family, and all of the other victims left behind their wake.

Thank you so very much. I feel this is the picture of Chad we all feel, but you have such knowledge and words to validate so beautifully.

 

[IronOrchid]

Wait, an angry and humiliated Mormon man moves to Utah?

I already know of one of his online aliases. Let's see if Chad is a white nationalist.

 

[IronOrchid]

Oh wait, Idaho not Utah

 

[IronOrchid]

You guys

UPDATE: Barricaded person in custody, no further threat to public safety | East Idaho News

 

[Teche]

Cell phone of missing Idaho teen found with mother, source says

Police in Idaho have found a cell phone belonging to 17-year-old Tylee Ryan, who, along with her 7-year-old adopted brother, JJ Vallow, hasn't been seen since September, a source close to the investigation told CBS News. It appears her phone was found in Hawaii with her mother, Lori Vallow, who has been considered a person of interest in the case.

Not good! I don’t know of one teen who’s not attached at the hip to their phone.

 

[Randocalrissian]

No issue. But you said that Chad got paid for his work on the podcasts and conferences but the media company said he had not. If someone is a VI or a local as you are, then WS states we can choose what to believe and I do not believe Chad was paid due to the link to the media company I provided and the facts of what is stated in their public statement. We are allowed to question each others opinions and statements. Please don't take my questioning as me having an issue with you, I am just seeking clarity on the issues. I agree with you that Chad used supposed visions to justify his actions. This is extremely worrying to me as regards Tammy's demise and Chad's supposed grieving and beach ceremony, apparently approved by Tammy from beyond the grave.

To be clear, I didn’t say he got paid for them; I said I hadn’t seen where it said he hadn’t. Because I hadn’t. Once I reviewed the statement from the touring conference group, I saw that they did claim to not pay him, nor anyone else, for speaking at events. I then pointed out that that is not the same as paying people for being on their podcasts and generating traffic to their website and services. In the end, I have no idea who is paying them or not. Thanks.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Cell phone of missing Idaho teen found with mother, source says

Police in Idaho have found a cell phone belonging to 17-year-old Tylee Ryan, who, along with her 7-year-old adopted brother, JJ Vallow, hasn't been seen since September, a source close to the investigation told CBS News. It appears her phone was found in Hawaii with her mother, Lori Vallow, who has been considered a person of interest in the case.

I can't believe she kept it. Good for the case, but bad for the children. Jmo

 

[SeattleStew]

Aaand...the Fox10 Phoenix story/link with the wedding pictures has gone 404. Did someone save it?

 

[IronOrchid]

Aaand...the Fox10 Phoenix story/link with the wedding pictures has gone 404. Did someone save it?

Hmm? No idea what you are talking about.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Aaand...the Fox10 Phoenix story/link with the wedding pictures has gone 404. Did someone save it?

Which link are you using? Jmo

 

[Lusitana]

Oh, wow. She kept her phone uh? If she kept it, then she intended to use it for something. These poor kids are dead, like really dead.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Oh, wow. She kept her phone uh? If she kept it, then she intended to use it for something. These poor kids are dead, like really dead.

I wonder if she was going to try to play some GPS "games" with it. With her, it need not be logical. Jmo

 

[indicolite22]

Aaand...the Fox10 Phoenix story/link with the wedding pictures has gone 404. Did someone save it?

The video is still on Justin Lum's fb: Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

 

[OGDiva]

25th October was when Tylee's phone sent that message to her friend. I'm betting Lori Lolo was in Kauai at that point having a dress fitting, oh and topping up her tan. They will be able to pinpoint the location of the phone when it was used.

She wasn't seen at the storage facility from October 3rd until November 24th if Nate Eaton's report includes all the dates.

It will be interesting to know the dates Lori began booking for the wedding and the purchase of her dress. Was she there before Chad arrived? I would also like to know if Chad purchased(or Lori purchased) his ticket before Tammy's death. I am sure LE has this information, however, it would be great if it were to be released.

 

[Tortoise]

I feel there is going to be breaking news today. But I've felt that before so who knows .

Why has this news about Tylee's phone got out when this matter is protected because she is a minor?

Is the fact this story was broken by CBS news relevant? What time zone was it broadcast in? Seems to have been 7.18am at the link, and we got it an hour and a half ago. Maybe Central? Makes me think this wasn't released by police on Sunday.

 

[CSIDreamer]

The video is still on Justin Lum's fb: Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

It won't play for me. I tried the story through his twitter and I got a 404 as well. Jmo. Is it playing for anyone? Could be my signal. Jmo

ETA ok the video through his FB is playing now.

 

[SeattleStew]

Which link are you using? Jmo

This one, from the last thread, #922 from the great @Gardener1850 :

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/video/653056

 

[IronOrchid]

Oh, wow. She kept her phone uh? If she kept it, then she intended to use it for something. These poor kids are dead, like really dead.

So very much wanted the little boy to be alive at least.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I feel there is going to be breaking news today. But I've felt that before so who knows .

Why has this news about Tylee's phone got out when this matter is protected because she is a minor?

Is the fact this story was broken by CBS news relevant? What time zone was it broadcast in? Seems to have been 7.18am at the link, and we got it an hour and a half ago. Maybe Central? Makes me think this wasn't released by police on Sunday.

Maybe Lori owns the phone? Jmo